Looks like I am about to have my IBD offer rescinded...
2 days before I was about to start, got a call from HR saying they cannot 100% guarantee the position and told me to wait. This is after I rejected a position in another bank when I called them up 2 months ago to ensure my offer still stood and would be okay.
What should I do, what would you do in my situation? Should I let the firm know I rejected another bank already in favour for them?
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yes.
yes. i would try to speak to the people you met at the company during the recruiting process to see if they can pull for you.
hi
yes. i would try to speak to the people you met at the company during the recruiting process to see if they can pull for you.
Thanks for your reply man, much appreciate it. The thing is I don't want to sound arrogant because everyone at the team is feeling the pressure. Should I send 'proof' of my offer from th other company? Would you advise I do this by email or phone call?
Man I feel like an idiot. I told my parents, friends, etc. that I will be starting and now I just feel so choked. I have even cried because I feel so down specially when my parents told me to accept the other offer from another company which was felt much secure.
Sorry to hear that -
Sorry to hear that - hopefully they end up taking you after all. If you don't mind, could you elaborate as to what kind of bank (size, location) this is?
BB
Bulge Bracket, Top 3 investment bank, New York.
Best of luck man, hope you
Best of luck man, hope you get to stay where you are!
thnx
thnx, Will keep updated what happens. Already started looking at fall back options, AGAIN.
This is exactly why people
This is exactly why people should have no compunction about reneging.
Sorry to hear that man.
Yea, I had mine rescinded as
Yea, I had mine rescinded as well, after telling EVERYONE what I would be doing and who I would be working for... feels f-ing terrible, I know. Good luck to you.
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hi
Yea, I had mine rescinded as well, after telling EVERYONE what I would be doing and who I would be working for... feels f-ing terrible, I know. Good luck to you.
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Thnx dude. Sorry to hear about your situation. Did they give you severance pay and alternative job offerings? Was this a FT position or a SA? Hope you are able to secure a job in this climate. Gd luk.
Sorry to hear this: "Should
Sorry to hear this:
"Should I let the firm know I rejected another bank already in favour for them?" As to this, dont think it'll matter much/dont think they will care. But if you want to, go ahead.
This, once again, is why I believe freely in reneging.
Sorry bro
This just happened to me but with 4 weeks before starting.
I don't really feel there is anything you can do before they make their decision to revoke or not. I won't get too into my situation, but if this firm does revoke the offer and they have a regional office that you might be interested in, then ask about or propose moving to a regional office that has higher works levels/better staffing needs. That's about the only play you have with this firm if they do revoke.
I'm a supporter of reneging. Just to cover myself, I've been applying to random job openings over the past couple of months. It hasn't helped me yet, but I was just waiting for this to happen.
It's tough being a laborer in a capitalist's world. Oh well.
This has gotta be JPM. Been
This has gotta be JPM. Been hearing alot about them hiring too many and they have two training cycles. Aparently they created crazy rules during first cycle of training trying to get rid of people.
jws43yale, Yeah I suspect it
jws43yale,
Yeah I suspect it is JPM.
What type of crazy rules have you heard that the firm instituted?
Banks really do not give a shit about anyone, and I keep trying to tell my starry-eyed SA friends that.
I thought that was Citi
I thought that was Citi where if you fail one of the tests you're out.
nope
This has gotta be JPM. Been hearing alot about them hiring too many and they have two training cycles. Aparently they created crazy rules during first cycle of training trying to get rid of people.
this is entirely inaccurate. No one has been cut. The only rules I'm aware of are the standard rules any bank would have (i.e. if you fail out of training you can get fired). There are indeed two training cycles, with the first group training first and then joining their groups, and the second group working first and training after the first cycle.
I have heard from people at Citi that they are getting rid of anyone who fails an exam though.
I also heard they shortened
I also heard they shortened training at Citi to 5 weeks, making each training day unbearably long.
MDR, I'm sure you're aware
MDR, I'm sure you're aware of incoming JPM analysts being shifted to the commercial bank for a year or being told that their start date has been "delayed" one year.
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What about S&T and ER , is
What about S&T and ER , is there any rigorous training like in IBD?
Yes ibankinglife I am very
Yes ibankinglife I am very aware of that...but no one's offer was rescinded and the point about the crazy rules during training was completely inaccurate.
Update
Well I spoken to the person responsible for me and they said they are fighting for me and I am number one on the list. I expresssed my interest in any other positions in other offices in case my position gets revoked. They said they will get back to me so its just a waiting game for now.
I am quite doubtful and I feel I am left in the dark and they have already made up my mind about me long time ago. I just feel so choked after rejecting an another offer which I was close to taking up.
I feel like I am just a condom. Been used and now they throwing me away in the last minute.
My advice to those who have offers. Keep still applying and always hedge your options in this kind of market.
Quote: Well I spoken to
Well I spoken to the person responsible for me and they said they are fighting for me and I am number one on the list.
I'm sure all the other recruits are "#1 on the list" too. Don't worry, it's just so they can make lots of "headroom" for you to advance when you come in. They want to run "lean" to give the top candidates plenty of "running room".
no models and bottles for
no models and bottles for you
That's horrible. So what are
That's horrible. So what are you going to do now?
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no models and bottles for you
Thanks, that makes me feel so much better.
lol
no models and bottles for you
Thanks, that makes me feel so much better.
so sorry to hear that
i know exactly how it feels. there's really not much you can say. worst case scenario, the people who told you about "number 1 on the list" know you won't be there but just making up stuff and the hr's are just delaying the process of letting you know. if you don't mind, i'd like to know which BB it is too. did you intern there last summer? it doesn't sound like you did and the interns usually get a little ahead of you at this stage. i would try to tell the more senior people that you turned down the other offer for them, but avoid telling the hr because it definitely won't help. keep us updated.
is this for a FO position
is this for a FO position
hi
i know exactly how it feels. there's really not much you can say. worst case scenario, the people who told you about "number 1 on the list" know you won't be there but just making up stuff and the hr's are just delaying the process of letting you know. if you don't mind, i'd like to know which BB it is too. did you intern there last summer? it doesn't sound like you did and the interns usually get a little ahead of you at this stage. i would try to tell the more senior people that you turned down the other offer for them, but avoid telling the hr because it definitely won't help. keep us updated.
Hi there. Yes, I did 2 internships with this firm in two different offices supporting the same team.
hi
is this for a FO position
Yes, M&A.
first just wanted to say
first just wanted to say thats a terrible situation and sorry to hear. in this market a lot of things are just out of your control. just to clarify though, was your offer for full-time summer 2008 summer, and you just got it rescinded basically a few days before you were to start while still in training? if so, that's a real gut punch, terrible
So what ended up happening?
So what ended up happening?
Update
Hey guys. Well I talked to the VP and they told me to be optimistic. One of the MDs in the team is sorting it out and they told me just to wait. What do you guys think of this?
Doesn't sound good
It's unfortunate they are putting you through this hassle... sounds like a waiting game from here on out...Goodluck man.
Update
I am going to training for the corporate finance analyst programme. My position is still not yet confirmed though and they said that they will let me know in 1 month (when I will be training).
What do you guys make of this?
Thnx
...no way to tell, but it's
...no way to tell, but it's definitely promising tha thtey're sending you to training. be optimistic though (what do you have to gain by acting otherwise)--if there are concrete steps that you can take to help line something else up, start taking them. but most probably there aren't, so really, don't worry about it.