So, what should I do?

New on WSO but have been reading this for a while and have learned a lot.

I am currently an extremely free senior in high school (only ~2 hours of lesson a day) and managed to get in touch with a fund manager who works at a local ~1 billion fund through some networking (He's my dad's friend's friend). He was nice on the phone but seemed busy and told me he was going on a business trip for a few days and I could get back to him at the end of the week by dropping him a text. I sent him one last Friday but he hasn't gotten back to me yet.

How do I proceed? I don't have an email, just his phone number. Honestly, I am not desperate for the internship but i'm hopelessly bored and would like some exposure and a good experience. I have a lot of fun during the free time I have but I'm running out of (cheap) ways to continue that.

My last concern is, how do I get them to take me seriously? I have a somewhat decent resume you'd expect from a engineering/science college sophomore due to school-placed internships at a few research institutes and several college-level classes. How can I make this experience seem useful?

I know if I get a chance to meet this HF guy I have a good shot at impressing him. The reason my dad's friend agreed to give me the HF manager's contact is because he was amazed when I had a good understanding of the industry where he was a consultant, some financial figures and recent M&A deals in that scene. I know it's not a fair comparison, but I nailed a college interview a few weeks ago as well. The 30 min interview became a 2.5 hour discussion where the interviewer's husband joined us for dinner. How do I go further and get him to agree for a meet-up without getting too clingy?

I'd be happy to get comments on my resume but I'm afraid to post it cos there's a chance it'll get flamed. Anyone still wants to take a look?


For those who tl;dr:

Extremely free and motivated high school student, talked to HF manager for internship but haven't heard back, what should I do? How do I get them to take me seriously? Take a look at my resume?

Thanks!

 

I totally understand you. There's just some people in this world who can't stand long periods of chilling the fuck out.

First you should really consider getting an email??? Or did you mean you don't have HIS email... Then I'd say something like, "I understand you're very busy, but I would love to have the opportunity to drop by for a visit at your fund." And maybe something like, you'd be happy to job shadow a junior person if he doesn't have time himself. If you impress that person, it usually gets back to the guy at the top. Plus he will most likely ask the junior person about you anyway.

If that doesn't happen, read - and read tons. No matter how much you think you know already, there's always more to be learned, and I'm sure everyone could agree to that. It'll give you an incredible advantage over others in college.

Then maybe take up a new sport or learn something new. I became a semi-professional dancer in high school, it's my other big passion. During the summers I try to pick up on new things like golfing, and I keep myself very busy trying to improve on everything else I already do - and I still feel like I could've done more. Anyway, who knows, you could find out you're life's big passion isn't in finance afterall, too. While that might sound horrible to you right now, when it happens you'll feel so blessed, whatever it might be.

Just my 2 c

I don't accept sacrifices and I don't make them. ... If ever the pleasure of one has to be bought by the pain of the other, there better be no trade at all. A trade by which one gains and the other loses is a fraud.
 

Thanks for the input everyone! And yes, I don't have his email. ah, SB for your reply.

If nothing happens with the HF, I'll enroll at a flight school or something since that's one thing I've always wanted to learn.

 

You have to be persistent without being pushy. This can be tricky.

With your attitude you're going to get one of two responses in life: a) "Wow, that kid is really annoying. I wish he'd leave me alone already." and b.) "Wow, that kid's got the attitude it takes to survive in this industry. I admire his persistence."

Ask the HF manager if he'd be willing to have coffee with you -- "I know you're really busy, but could you spare 15 minutes for a cup of coffee? I'd love to pick your brain."

 

Just following up. Thanks ahacker. I met up with the guy today. He gave me a few "case study" type questions like if I had to choose between stock A and stock B given some details, which would I buy. He was pretty impressed by my answers and knowledge in finance and the "15 minutes and I have to go." turned into a ~40 minute discussion. However, he told me that I should learn some financial modeling like DCF etc. and if he gave me an annual report, I should be able to come up with the relevant models on Excel. Anyone got tips on this? I came across Damodaran's website on NYU after using the search function but was looking for something more detailed as I have little formal finance education.

Thanks again.

 
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HSdaydreamer:
Just following up. Thanks ahacker. I met up with the guy today. He gave me a few "case study" type questions like if I had to choose between stock A and stock B given some details, which would I buy. He was pretty impressed by my answers and knowledge in finance and the "15 minutes and I have to go." turned into a ~40 minute discussion. However, he told me that I should learn some financial modeling like DCF etc. and if he gave me an annual report, I should be able to come up with the relevant models on Excel. Anyone got tips on this? I came across Damodaran's website on NYU after using the search function but was looking for something more detailed as I have little formal finance education.

Thanks again.

Are you for real?

-MBP
 
everythingsucks:
HSdaydreamer:
Just following up. Thanks ahacker. I met up with the guy today. He gave me a few "case study" type questions like if I had to choose between stock A and stock B given some details, which would I buy. He was pretty impressed by my answers and knowledge in finance and the "15 minutes and I have to go." turned into a ~40 minute discussion. However, he told me that I should learn some financial modeling like DCF etc. and if he gave me an annual report, I should be able to come up with the relevant models on Excel. Anyone got tips on this? I came across Damodaran's website on NYU after using the search function but was looking for something more detailed as I have little formal finance education.

Thanks again.

Are you for real?

How do I prove it to you? And if I wanted to troll, I wouldn't troll about something like this...

Anyway, got anything on modeling for me? I like the course on Breaking into Wall Street, but I would like to look at all my options before I pay $197 for the course.

 

Well, since you're not taking my advice on lifeguarding I'll say this:

Think of it this way... would you pay $197 to get this internship? Of course you would. As long as you follow the template on there - and you don't make any mistakes - the guy will be impressed with you. Maybe he's stringing you along and there really isn't an internship available, but if I ran into a senior in HIGH SCHOOL that could run a DCF that made sense I would not forget his or her name for a while.

 
NYorker:
Well, since you're not taking my advice on lifeguarding I'll say this:

Think of it this way... would you pay $197 to get this internship? Of course you would. As long as you follow the template on there - and you don't make any mistakes - the guy will be impressed with you. Maybe he's stringing you along and there really isn't an internship available, but if I ran into a senior in HIGH SCHOOL that could run a DCF that made sense I would not forget his or her name for a while.

Haha I'm sorry NYorker, maybe next summer? I've volunteered to teach kids swimming before though, and kinda pitied the life guards who had to sit there all day doing nothing. The plus point is you get paid for looking at hot girls. Good point about the 197 bucks, I'll think about getting it.

More comments would be good!

 

If you can land an internship like this then by the time you apply for a good BB SA program you will likely have 2-3 other solid internships and put you well above other candidates (as long as you get a solid GPA in college). I was also a lifeguard in hs and it was pretty awesome. I worked in an all black neighborhood that started requiring people pay a monthly fee to use the pool, needless to say, no one actually bought the passes and i just got ripped with the pool manager all day and swam. But kudos to you if you'd rather DCF away one of your last free summers.

 

If you want the internship, definitely go for it. They're telling you not to for a couple of reasons. First, you have every summer in college to get internships. Second, after you get out of college you're probably going to be working a 70/80 hour a week job. You should really take the time to enjoy your life while you have the chance. Hell, most people will tell you to have some fun after freshman year of college (I would, too, if I were you... actually, I did). You'll have plenty of time to set yourself up for a solid career, so have some fun now.

"You stop being an asshole when it sucks to be you." -IlliniProgrammer "Your grammar made me wish I'd been aborted." -happypantsmcgee
 

I might not be old enough to say this but, I know a lot of older people look back and say - oh i wish i did this and that instead of doing this internship/job/something more serious. The problem with that statement is, they may not be where they are today if it weren't for that path they took back then.

Just go with whatever you feel like doing! If you can have it now, why the hell wouldn't you? Why the hell would you wait until college? Maybe doing this now will give you more time to learn about other things in college, it might help your GPA, it might take some of that internship search pressure off of you when that time comes, so that when other people are pouring their lives over this you'd have the luxury to still be spending time doing what you like, maybe traveling to more places during breaks when others are stressing about interviews and applications.

I think you could never go wrong with trying things early. Maybe after working there you discover you hate it - then great, because you would've just saved yourself 4 years (3 yrs in college & one summer) to study something else. Or if you hated being at a HF, maybe once you're in ibanking you'd know you don't want to go the typical route of going to a HF, and you'd focus on something else.

But maybe I'll see it the same way as all these other people too, who knows? Because I did spend my sophomore summer dancing my life away. 10+ hrs a day in the dance studio, living the life of a professional dancer and not doing an ibanking internship... It was mostly because by some mistake of applications I didn't get one, but it was a a summer I wouldn't forget. So maybe they're right afterall, but then again, if I did do one and found out I didn't like it, I might've been a full-time dancer by now.

As for modeling, there's this org called "training the street" and JPMorgan got them to teach at our university a while back. It probably won't be very different material from book to book since it's really just a model. And while you can change it here and there, it's still just that in essence.

Best of luck!

I don't accept sacrifices and I don't make them. ... If ever the pleasure of one has to be bought by the pain of the other, there better be no trade at all. A trade by which one gains and the other loses is a fraud.
 
ah:
I might not be old enough to say this but, I know a lot of older people look back and say - oh i wish i did this and that instead of doing this internship/job/something more serious. The problem with that statement is, they may not be where they are today if it weren't for that path they took back then.

Just go with whatever you feel like doing! If you can have it now, why the hell wouldn't you? Why the hell would you wait until college? Maybe doing this now will give you more time to learn about other things in college, it might help your GPA, it might take some of that internship search pressure off of you when that time comes, so that when other people are pouring their lives over this you'd have the luxury to still be spending time doing what you like, maybe traveling to more places during breaks when others are stressing about interviews and applications.

I think you could never go wrong with trying things early. Maybe after working there you discover you hate it - then great, because you would've just saved yourself 4 years (3 yrs in college & one summer) to study something else. Or if you hated being at a HF, maybe once you're in ibanking you'd know you don't want to go the typical route of going to a HF, and you'd focus on something else.

But maybe I'll see it the same way as all these other people too, who knows? Because I did spend my sophomore summer dancing my life away. 10+ hrs a day in the dance studio, living the life of a professional dancer and not doing an ibanking internship... It was mostly because by some mistake of applications I didn't get one, but it was a a summer I wouldn't forget. So maybe they're right afterall, but then again, if I did do one and found out I didn't like it, I might've been a full-time dancer by now.

As for modeling, there's this org called "training the street" and JPMorgan got them to teach at our university a while back. It probably won't be very different material from book to book since it's really just a model. And while you can change it here and there, it's still just that in essence.

Best of luck!

Agree with this. Nothing wrong with trying to get ahead early. I don't see why he can't intern AND have fun in a summer. As a HS senior, he'll probably only be doing 8-5 at the fund anyway. The discouraging posts above are unnecessary.
 

Appreciate the comments,

I've given it some thought and spoken to a few people about it. I think I'll go ahead with it and see what happens. Many told me that having a HF internship in senior year HS doing DCF and shit like that will help me get more than an edge over my peers later on. At worst, I'll realize the HF route isn't for me and will make better use of my college time and money, as ah pointed out. As for the "last summer" part, I'll try to negotiate something where I'll only have to do it for like half or 3/4 of the summer and I'll go on a holiday for the rest of it.

Got the BIWS course, very helpful and easy to follow. Will recommend it to anyone who reads this post in the future. And it's much quicker than Damodar, who spends ~1000 pages on it. Excel files and financial statements are provided with each lecture so it makes things even easier.

And again again again, thanks a lot guys!

 
euroazn:
Out of curiosity, which course did you sign up for? "Excel & Modeling Fundamentals"?

High school senior In the same position... it's amazing how many people are in the "GO HAVE FUN WORRY ABOUT THIS LATER" camp ;P

Yeah I got the excel and modeling fundamentals one, but I'm planning to get the advanced modeling one after this. It teaches the basics of accounting and everything as well. I think you'll be better off with the premium course since it'll still be useful 2 or 3 years later when you're looking for internships and jobs in college and are in need of a refresher. It also covers everything you'll possibly need to know. Also, subscribe to the WSJ/FT. I have a WSJ subscription, get the digital one if you can. It's nice to read it on your iPad/iPhone and you can save articles to read later, etc.

blackfinancier:
HFFBALLfan123:
All HS students, don't get too caught up in modeling and using shortcuts as you are a few years away from using them and they are easy to figure out. I would spend more time on grasping accounting/finance on a conceptual level as well as following markets/deals going on. But i admire ya'lls drive in getting internships early on and it's not like you will be there 100 hours a week, more like 30-40 so you can still go out on the weekends and party with your friends one last time. Atleast you won't be working at Friday's your senior year of HS like me.

To be honest maybe working at Friday's might actually be better for a HS senior because although people say "its never to early" in some cases it is. Working a minimum wage job teaches you things that no internships or upper level finance can teach you, that can be beneficial to your success in finance

Thanks for the input, but I don't see how getting "low wage" jobs are the ONLY ways to get such skills unless someone is really completely socially inept. Maybe you mean they teach you the value of hard-earned money. Specify?

Argonaut:
Ok, but seriously (without LeBron references) do whatever the f you can to get that internship. You are going off to college - you got winter breaks and spring breaks to travel, party, get trashed, w/e the f you want (plus money to do it with). That internship isn't just gonna be "an extra internship", it will be a HUGE leg up for your entire career - if you do reasonably well, you will also have internships after your freshman year, sophomore year, and junior year - double what most successful kids get, nevermind insane network and quite a bit of extra money. If you actually do have a shot at this opportunity, you would be slapping God in a face and spitting into his beard by not doing everythig you can to to get it.

Haha thanks, I'll do my best. I'll ask for unpaid if he backs out or something. I don't care much for the money right now, just something that'll make it easier for me later on so that I won't have to be so frantic and anxious when it's time to apply for SA internships.

Nice dp btw. Imagining that face saying "...you would be slapping God in a face and spitting into his beard by not doing everythig you can to to get it." made me LOL.

 
HSdaydreamer:
blackfinancier:
HFFBALLfan123:
All HS students, don't get too caught up in modeling and using shortcuts as you are a few years away from using them and they are easy to figure out. I would spend more time on grasping accounting/finance on a conceptual level as well as following markets/deals going on. But i admire ya'lls drive in getting internships early on and it's not like you will be there 100 hours a week, more like 30-40 so you can still go out on the weekends and party with your friends one last time. Atleast you won't be working at Friday's your senior year of HS like me.

To be honest maybe working at Friday's might actually be better for a HS senior because although people say "its never to early" in some cases it is. Working a minimum wage job teaches you things that no internships or upper level finance can teach you, that can be beneficial to your success in finance

Thanks for the input, but I don't see how getting "low wage" jobs are the ONLY ways to get such skills unless someone is really completely socially inept. Maybe you mean they teach you the value of hard-earned money. Specify?

I never said only. Also low wage job yes teaches you the value of hard-earned money. But much more importantly you get to talk to people who are COMPLETELY different than you and learn something about different ways of life....I'm assuming someone who is 40 and works fast food thinks differently than you do. Many may not agree. An internship your surrounded by driven people....for the most part who you may not learn many life lessons from considering your going to b busy asking how do i do xzy or how do i better understand xyz not asking about his childhood. I only say this because your young, do something different for a change before you give your life away to this thing we call high finance. Develop a personality something that you know in an interview will shine thru so you can get a job. Being able to master every technical but you are a person no one wants to hang out with at 12 am 1 am wont bode well for you.

But to each there own.

The answer to your question is 1) network 2) get involved 3) beef up your resume 4) repeat -happypantsmcgee WSO is not your personal search function.
 

All HS students, don't get too caught up in modeling and using shortcuts as you are a few years away from using them and they are easy to figure out. I would spend more time on grasping accounting/finance on a conceptual level as well as following markets/deals going on. But i admire ya'lls drive in getting internships early on and it's not like you will be there 100 hours a week, more like 30-40 so you can still go out on the weekends and party with your friends one last time. Atleast you won't be working at Friday's your senior year of HS like me.

 
HFFBALLfan123:
All HS students, don't get too caught up in modeling and using shortcuts as you are a few years away from using them and they are easy to figure out. I would spend more time on grasping accounting/finance on a conceptual level as well as following markets/deals going on. But i admire ya'lls drive in getting internships early on and it's not like you will be there 100 hours a week, more like 30-40 so you can still go out on the weekends and party with your friends one last time. Atleast you won't be working at Friday's your senior year of HS like me.

To be honest maybe working at Friday's might actually be better for a HS senior because although people say "its never to early" in some cases it is. Working a minimum wage job teaches you things that no internships or upper level finance can teach you, that can be beneficial to your success in finance

The answer to your question is 1) network 2) get involved 3) beef up your resume 4) repeat -happypantsmcgee WSO is not your personal search function.
 

You should admit that you've made mistakes. You should remind us that you've done this before. You should give us a history lesson, tell us how much fun you had. Moreover, you should have your tattoo removed and be who we want you to be. Just accept your role, or maybe just disappear.

More is good, all is better
 

^^^^That's the biggest load of bs I ever heard . Working a mimimim wage job can teach you things alright, but not any kind that's useful for a grown up life (unless you want to continue working for low pay)

More is good, all is better
 
Argonaut:
^^^^That's the biggest load of bs I ever heard . Working a mimimim wage job can teach you things alright, but not any kind that's useful for a grown up life (unless you want to continue working for low pay)

How isn't it true your telling me that getting an internship making copy's not talking to anyone is better than working at a fast food joint of whatever learning how to deal with different types of people......

I guess to each there own.

The answer to your question is 1) network 2) get involved 3) beef up your resume 4) repeat -happypantsmcgee WSO is not your personal search function.
 

Well I never had an internship making copies (or worked a minimum wage job), but I would imagine you can always show initiative and ask for more meaningful work at the copy making internship, and you really can't do that at a fast food joint. At all of my internship I was able to do A LOT more work than was expected of an intern, and my bosses were delighted to give me more, and when we had to do presentations about our internships for one of the senior level seminars, I was amazed that only 2 other people (out of like 30) had any kind of meaningful internships. One girl was quite seriously telling how it was a valuable experience that she learned to reference and find some of the older files, because of how important it was for the project, I first thought she was just clowning around.

I guess you can always be lazy/not assertive enough and just make copies instead of inching your way into a good project and networking, and in that case internship would be useless, but it is still a better opportunity to shine than fast food

More is good, all is better
 

Ok, but seriously (without LeBron references) do whatever the f you can to get that internship. You are going off to college - you got winter breaks and spring breaks to travel, party, get trashed, w/e the f you want (plus money to do it with). That internship isn't just gonna be "an extra internship", it will be a HUGE leg up for your entire career - if you do reasonably well, you will also have internships after your freshman year, sophomore year, and junior year - double what most successful kids get, nevermind insane network and quite a bit of extra money. If you actually do have a shot at this opportunity, you would be slapping God in a face and spitting into his beard by not doing everythig you can to to get it.

More is good, all is better
 
Argonaut:
Ok, but seriously (without LeBron references) do whatever the f you can to get that internship. You are going off to college - you got winter breaks and spring breaks to travel, party, get trashed, w/e the f you want (plus money to do it with). That internship isn't just gonna be "an extra internship", it will be a HUGE leg up for your entire career - if you do reasonably well, you will also have internships after your freshman year, sophomore year, and junior year - double what most successful kids get, nevermind insane network and quite a bit of extra money. If you actually do have a shot at this opportunity, you would be slapping God in a face and spitting into his beard by not doing everythig you can to to get it.

This point is much more important if you're going to a non-target - go for the gig and don't look back. Yeah, shitty jobs gave me perspective, very true...but I'll trade them for good, early internships in a heartbeat. Just stay humble and don't be a douche if you're concerned about maintaining "perspective".

If you're going to a top school, maybe it's not as crucial to get this gig, but as a nontarget I can't speak to that.

 

Without a doubt working a retail or minimum wage job can teach you a lot. I won't say that its better or worse than the HF thing you have going but it absolutely has value. I personally think everyone should have to work a shitty job, even if its just for a week...gives you some perspective..

If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses - Henry Ford
 
happypantsmcgee:
Without a doubt working a retail or minimum wage job can teach you a lot. I won't say that its better or worse than the HF thing you have going but it absolutely has value. I personally think everyone should have to work a shitty job, even if its just for a week...gives you some perspective..

This. Basically my point I'm getting at.

The answer to your question is 1) network 2) get involved 3) beef up your resume 4) repeat -happypantsmcgee WSO is not your personal search function.
 

Ok, can someone please explain to me how listening to some 40 year old loser's life story can be beneficial to a growing mind? If anything it is harmful. Attitudes are contagious, and if you hang around losers, you soon get infected with their poor work ethic and/or their skewed view of life.

More is good, all is better
 

"Also, subscribe to the WSJ/FT. I have a WSJ subscription, get the digital one if you can. It's nice to read it on your iPad/iPhone and you can save articles to read later, etc. "

Just something WSO members might find useful: you can get free access to premium online WSJ articles! http://hubpages.com/hub/How-To-Access-Full-Wall-Street-Journal-Online-A… (You need firefox for this.)

Alternatively, you can just copy the headline into google and click. Viola! Free access :)

 

Thanks again everyone!! Following up again, for those who care. If it wasn't for WSO I wouldn't have done any of the following so i'm extremely thankful. Just bought some credits and will SB all the encouraging comments. For now, I'm seeking some advice again.

Edit: New post not visible. I think the spam filter blocked it. Anyway:

So, with your encouragement and some push from people I knew like the Portfolio Manager I had met from the HF, I started learning financial modeling and got some confidence to email/call local boutique firms. I sent out about 12 resumes and cold called a this guy who started a boutique firm a few years ago. Explained to him i'm in HS but have loads of free time and get off lessons at about 12 everyday, am very motivated and interested etc. etc.. I had no idea who he was at this point. He told me he was interested, gave me his email and asked me to send him my resume and CV. I emailed it to him about 2 days ago, and then I googled his name. Found out he's NOW an MD at an elite boutique (Lazard, BX, etc.).

I just got a positive response from him and he is impressed by my enthusiasm and wants to meet me for coffee and see what he can do to get me an internship. I'm not too concerned about the interview part as I think I can be smooth and get a conversation going. I'll prepare myself for some technicals. But I do have a few questions:

What would he expect? If you were in his shoes, what would you expect of such a HS student? I'm pretty normal, athletic build and not as nerdy as you'd expect. What should I wear? I'd "suit up" but in my eyes it would be a pretty douche-y thing to do. Would a shirt and jeans be fine? Will wearing the suit show him that i'm in fact, capable of being "mature" in a way? Is it safe to ask him if he can do something for me at the elite boutique (BX, Laz) instead of the one he started? Or is that stepping over the line?

Looking forward to your insights.

 
HSdaydreamer:
Thanks again everyone!! Following up again, for those who care. If it wasn't for WSO I wouldn't have done any of the following so i'm extremely thankful. Just bought some credits and will SB all the encouraging comments. For now, I'm seeking some advice again.

Edit: New post not visible. I think the spam filter blocked it. Anyway:

So, with your encouragement and some push from people I knew like the Portfolio Manager I had met from the HF, I started learning financial modeling and got some confidence to email/call local boutique firms. I sent out about 12 resumes and cold called a this guy who started a boutique firm a few years ago. Explained to him i'm in HS but have loads of free time and get off lessons at about 12 everyday, am very motivated and interested etc. etc.. I had no idea who he was at this point. He told me he was interested, gave me his email and asked me to send him my resume and CV. I emailed it to him about 2 days ago, and then I googled his name. Found out he's NOW an MD at an elite boutique (Lazard, BX, etc.).

I just got a positive response from him and he is impressed by my enthusiasm and wants to meet me for coffee and see what he can do to get me an internship. I'm not too concerned about the interview part as I think I can be smooth and get a conversation going. I'll prepare myself for some technicals. But I do have a few questions:

What would he expect? If you were in his shoes, what would you expect of such a HS student? I'm pretty normal, athletic build and not as nerdy as you'd expect. What should I wear? I'd "suit up" but in my eyes it would be a pretty douche-y thing to do. Would a shirt and jeans be fine? Will wearing the suit show him that i'm in fact, capable of being "mature" in a way? Is it safe to ask him if he can do something for me at the elite boutique (BX, Laz) instead of the one he started? Or is that stepping over the line?

Looking forward to your insights.

I'd suit up, although if you want to look more casual, go with something like a button up, khakis and a sports jacket with no tie , def no jeans.

More is good, all is better
 

Working at Fridays made me realize how much i needed to bust my ass in college, i worked for like 3 months and ended up paying like half my tips away to have the hostess due my silverwear rolling duties and cleaning my station up. I also interned at a HF after my soph. year and probably did like 10 hours of real work, the other time i was doing the secretary's job over because she was a complete idiot.

 
Ray Finkle:
Manbearpig, give BlackFinancier a break. He isn't white so it may be harder for him to speak our language.
There's white language? Learn something new every day...
More is good, all is better
 

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