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Imagine her having a fat greasy shit in your toilet and not flushing. The stench rapidly diffuses into the rest of the house on a hot summers day.
If you still want to be with her, she is the one.
Cheating
SSits, context please. We can talk about everything.
I was reading the threads about wealth targets and cost of living. My tips are to help people achieve the former and manage/reduce the latter. I'm interested to see what others (particularly the now or previously married) think are the things to look for in a future wife.
inb4 don't marry
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Awesome post special situations!!
1-1000: find a low maintenance girl
Tip #1: Vasectomy Tip #2: Never tell anyone
You have a happy marriage, and you save $$$
I don't think it works that way.
Until she files for a divorce because of your impotence.
She then leaves you because she always wanted children and your sperm don't swim or ever leave the gate for that matter.
Game set and match,
happy wife, happy life
Personally, I love high maintenance girls. To me there's something sexy about a very hot, well educated upper class girl who demands attention and fine quality. But to each his own.
I had a girlfriend with from a well off family with high material expectations, coupled with low earning capability. I found her expectation that I'd reward her with material gifts for just being her very tiring, financially draining and lopsided. Nor was her just being her was particularly impressive or intelligent.
Another girlfriend from very well off family didn't have high material expectations, but was needy in a "without you I'm so lonely" dependent way. That was incredibly draining because my spare time became her time and she lacked independence to do her own stuff. She was effectively a ball and chain.
That said, horses for courses, each to their own.
I'll add tip #3 - Marry a woman who has her own hobbies/independent activities that are self-funded and are completely optional for you to participate in.
other monkeys, this is true. I thought about rebutting @"DCDepository"'s point, but who am I to tell him whom to date? it's important to be cultured, but you have to be smart, interesting, and independent too in my opinion. I have just as much fun (if not more) sitting on the coach watching a stupid movie or TV show with her snacking on something drinking wine as I do going out to an expensive dinner. if you can't have fun with a girl when you're doing absolutely nothing (yes, I mean like those cheesy cards where they're laying in a field looking at the sky, that kind of nothing), then you haven't found the one yet.
by the way guys, even if you have an independent, income earning women, you can still be chivalrous and feel "needed." I think most of the comments are from guys who want to take care of a girl, and you can still do it without having a spoiled trust fund baby as a significant other. give it a whirl, you'll be pleasantly surprised.
That's what I call "new rich", it's repulsive. An upper class girl whose family has been upper class for generations will not "demand attention and fine quality". She already has what she needs and is happy with what she has, that's what a good education does. To each his own - I don't care for rich trash.
Depends what kind of maintenance... I wouldn't want a girl that is overly demanding but I wouldn't want one I can easily walk all over either. She better be able to compete intellectually and be able to push back at times. To a degree, I agree with @DCDepository
Marry someone below your quality.
Don't marry up. Marry an average girl who thinks it's a privelige to marry her and don't spend lavishly on her except rare occasions.
She'll never leave you. Then it's just being self disciplined not to cheat yourself.
So this doesn't look one-sided, tip #4 - Be a good guy, don't cheat, make yourself worthy of her love (which hopefully doesn't equate to merely spending money)
Find an emotionally stable girl. When things get tough, you don't want to be the one to buy her a bag of cheetos and tell her to suck it up.
Don't marry anyone. Men have appreciating qualities. Women do not. If you have no game or look like an elf, yeah get married. Everyone else will just legally cock tease themselves.
I just don't see the benefit in pounding the same piece until you die.
Marriage and children are an antiquated concept. Just like believing in a sky God and that children are your legacy.
I don't know what that phrase means. It it a reference to South Park?
I don't see marriage as a vital institution itself these days, but I do see long term intimate companionship as a definite plus.
On a personal level, I've done very well from having a partner who challenges me, makes me do things outside my comfort zone, pushes me, encourages me and shows me different perspectives on many things.
Professionally, I've benefited from many of the same influences. I've also benefited from having a partner who was a lawyer when I was a lawyer and became a banker before I did, so we can relate and constructively discuss each other's professional situations and deals.
This is the sort of support you don't get from a friend. No matter how good a friend is, they just aren't as invested in you as a girlfriend/boyfriend/spouse.
Of course, each to their own etc etc. However, I think the absence of a good partner leaves your personal and professional development at a disadvantage.
On the other hand, an intimate partner in itself may not give you much benefit eg if you take some trophy wife whose only interest is pushing you to bankroll her consumption more.
Great post.
Pounding the same piece??, that's if the very essence of your manhood hasn't wilted like hot piece of lettuce over time needing a lil blue tic tac to keep up with what you think is a cock tease.
Hugh Hef may have tons of women around him but he's too old to ride. Appreciate the person who can grow with you dude. That is unless you don't intend to grow
Assuming you get married at 30 and impotent at say 50-55, that's still a quarter decade with the same woman. God bless you if you don't get bored. Sex is a huge part of life and I'm sorry, but you can only spice up meatloaf so much.
Why is it that a finance forum with an average age of what, 23, has a thread about marriage ever other day? Marriage should be the furthest thing from just about everyone mind on this site.
Marry the one that laughs at your fart.
Marry your best friend.
Tip #1: Marry a girl who is happy with or without you.
You win sir. Your best friend is probably as close as it gets to the perfect marriage material. Passion and all that nonsense about romance is overrated. If she is charming even if not the hottest girl in town you'll develop a much stable love relationship.
You know you can have a lot of fun with her without any financial implication. When you offer her something, she actually values your effort, because she never felt entitled to anything as a "friend". You know she cares about you. You know she can handle an interresting conversation without you zoning out after 5min. Otherwise she wouldn't be your friend. Whereas with random bitches you are pretty much listening to her utter-bullshit just so you can bang her...
Only drawback to this is that you can't fuck up with her without ruining everything. And you know it. Which could prove difficult to handle.
This. Marrying your best friend is the smartest decision you could make.
Marry your best friend. I was about to type that before I saw your post. +1
Total fag move
Tip #5: Marry someone who has a passion and ability for cooking
I just finished off a plate my wife cooked up for me in 10 minutes and she's grateful for having the opportunity to try cooking something different (tonight: noodles, coriander, nuts and a little chili stir fried).
thanks for sharing all these pro tips with us cool cats incidentally, i was curious to hear your opinions on ideal age differences (or lack of) within marriages
inb4 everyone's different and there's no way you can reasonably make a generalization for everyone
I'm a little under 4 years older. I wouldn't want to go much wider because it creates too much of an uneven playing field where I'd be the 'wiser' partner too much.
On a related point, we've benefited a lot from putting ourselves in new situations (moving to new countries, traveling, teaching kids) where it's new to both of us, so we learn together on a level playing field etc.
Tip #1: Be with someone with whom you can be yourself and not have to put up any pretenses Tip #2: Be with someone who pushes you and encourages you to be a better person in your professional and personal lives Tip #3: Be with someone who understands the demands of your job. I know a lot of us work in stressful environments and with unpredictable schedules, so it's important that she recognizes, accepts and understands that. That's where it's important that she has a degree of independence in her life to where she can push herself and grow as a person.
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In b4 Fleshlight, wait...what?
Lol your wife is going to have quite the rude awakening when she finds your fleshlight
The female perspective, for any lady monkeys on this site (or my opinion, at least, since marriage is not in my near-future radar):
1) Give benefit of the doubt. The man is innocent until proven guilty. Snooping is stupid, jealousy is stupid, and "we need to talk" is the worst phrase you could ever utter. Actions > words or something. 2) Don't make a big deal out of stupid shit. (i.e. don't be a whiny, emotional bitch.) Okay, so your guy didn't separate whites and darks in the laundry and your new Vera shirt has blue splotches - screaming and crying isn't going to fix it. Best way to turn off a guy is to freak out over little things. 2b) But don't be a doormat. Have a life. Don't be clingy and dependent. 3) He doesn't want to marry a girl who's "one of the guys"; he married you because you're a hot chick. So dress nicely, cook well, give praise, have hobbies (and friends) besides his, and oh - be open to new sex positions.
And yes, marry your best friend.
don't marry?
I feel otherwise about the whole low expectation thing. I want her to be disappointed if life isn't great, extra motivation to do better. Can go either way I guess.
Low material expectations, then.
Let's say I have been involved with this super hot former stripper/high class call girl whom I adore. How can I mold her so that she fits the criteria laid out in tip #1 and #2?
Nah I am just kidding! (or am I?) Seriously thou, many thanks for your advices in these posts man. If I ever decide to settle down (a big IF) then I would surely refer back here for your insights.
Tipz;
1 - Maturity trumps everything; a mature wife is one which appreciates the nice things but knows not to expect them, can be emotional but knows that it's not a game to get what she wants.
2 - Shares/accepts your religious/ethical/moral beliefs; if you're incompatible on this level then goodbye.
3 - Shares libidio
4 - Shares same idea of who will be the 'focus' of the family - eventually there'll be compromise, it's better if both parties are aware of who is expected to compromise more, and what they get for giving up what they did.
Be the Underwoods.
Couldn't agree more.
Frank Underwood is gay, brah...their marriage is a sham.
On the other hand though, Claire Underwood looks like a dude, so I guess in some ways it makes sense.
Here is the biggest pro tip: other than a few people on this site, avoid all advice regarding relationships, marriage or dating from posters on WSO. It's like listening to a blind person tell you what colors to paint your apartment.
@"AndyLouis" might as well put this in queue for comment of the week, he's on a roll.
A lot of guys here are anti-marriage, but almost every finance guy over 40 I know is married with kids.
I married older so you can take this for what it's worth.
Find someone whose value system is like yours. With common underlying values you are more likely to have fewer major conflicts.
If you like being around the person in the quiets and most other circumstances that are not related to sex, this is a good sign.
I rate trust highly, but also respect. If you don't respect the person for whatever reason forget it, you will never trust them. Character counts.
If sex is the major reason for the existence of your relationship, you are "fucked". Anyone who has attempted this route knows what I am talking about.
Each person must be their own individual. Trying to control, own or otherwise save or change someone by marrying them is a recipe for failure.
Years ago I was out with the guy I worked for over many years. We were discussing marriage. Here is what he told me:
Forget the best lay, best blowjob, best looking and all the rest of that stuff. The only thing that matters is: who will be with you when you are down.....
That statement has proven to be uncommon wisdom.
Dayam guy, look at you coming on here and dropping the best post of the thread. Well said.
Was that a pun?
If this condition is not met you should just skip marriage or any sort of relationship.
what if you have asian parents who only like people they approve (aka traditional chinese woman from tier-1 city who is from middle class, must be within 1 year of your age, and can cook/clean and will provide a male heir )? must be submissive but not japanese-submissive
Doesn't sound that bad tbh.
I was going to type out #FirstWorldProblems, but then I thought better of it...
You're their little prince. Find a non-Han and they'll adjust to having mixed blood grandchildren.
My wife is ethnic Han and her parents have come to at least tolerate their laowai son in law. She had never dated a Chinese guy anyway, so they were resigned to that years before I turned up.
If you're parents are doing the traditional Chinese thing of relying on you to bankroll their old age, they'll come to realise the financial incentives are for them to at least hold their tongues.
haha jk I have da yellow feva
Recommended reading:
http://www.amazon.com/Fresh-Off-Boat-A-Memoir/dp/0812983351
I just went through a devastating breakup and a friend sent me these links. I thought the author had a few good points, but everyone will take it with their own biases so I can imagine some people won't totally agree. At the very least, it's an entertaining read
http://waitbutwhy.com/2014/02/pick-life-partner.html
http://waitbutwhy.com/2014/02/pick-life-partner-part-2.html
To summarize his main points, he basically says a good relationship requires 3 key ingredients: 1. An epic friendship (good sense of humor, respect for each other's way of thinking, common interests, etc) 2. A feeling of home (trust and security, natural chemistry, recognition/acceptance of flaws) 3. A determination to be good at marriage (communicating well, maintaining equality, and "fighting well")
Still recommend reading the whole thing
I thought the part 1 (why marriage is important and why so many people choose the wrong partner) was more insightful than part 2 (pretty generic, vague advice). Part 1 also emphasizes being proactive and borderline aggressive about finding a partner (favoring online dating) rather than dumb luck. I am a big proponent of this, but my romantic side still believes that there has to be some element of serendipity/spark to it.
Scary quote:
"And when you choose a life partner, you’re choosing a lot of things, including your parenting partner and someone who will deeply influence your children, your eating companion for about 20,000 meals, your travel companion for about 100 vacations, your primary leisure time and retirement friend, your career therapist, and someone whose day you’ll hear about 18,000 times."
Relationship advice is so vague. The reality of the matter is, when you date someone you'll know whether they are 'the one'. If you feel like they are 'the one' and they don't have some of the aforementioned qualities then you will most likely get screwed. Moral of the Story: Make sure you don't fall in love with an emotional wreck who has trust issues and expects you to be perfect 24/7.
Or you could be smart and never get married. Personally, I hope to never love a women.
Welcome back Elliot Rodgers
What if you can't stay monogamous in your marriage and cheat every now and then
Was gonna ask this as well. Would like to hear some perspective from married guys. If you are happy why would you need to cheat, or so the argument goes. So is cheating completely incompatible with a successful and happy marriage?
I've never cheated on my wife, even when easy opportunities arose, so I'm not qualified to answer. A combination of my view on my own integrity and fear of crippling Catholic guilt keep me from straying.
I see why it makes sense for some others, but think it involves taking a lot of risk, if your marriage is something you want to preserve.
If you're looking for something emotional via cheating (ie not just lusty wenching), your marriage is probably not all that healthy. Again, cheating may be a sensible approach there, particularly if you've got kids.
As a guy, I think its normal to be attracted to other girls. But when you truly love someone, you don't want to cheat, because you don't want to risk ruining what you have or hurting her, even if the chance of getting caught is infinitesimal. It really took me ~25/26 years for me to feel this way (When I began dating the girl a couple years ago who was my best friend since 18), so I think if you can't imagine not cheating, it might just mean you haven't found the right person yet. I think it's an age thing too, the irrational lust I felt when I was younger waned by my mid-20's. I'm not willing to risk it all for a hot girl like I would when I was young.
If your early 20's, and can't imagine being monogamous, I wouldn't worry... I was the same way at that age, things can definitely change. I used to date 3-4 girls at once and couldn't imagine ever being happy with only one girl.
Of course plenty of people marry the wrong person, or are just sociopaths and cheat for the thrill of it, so your mileage may vary,
So much bad advice.
If you don't want kids, don't marry. Marriage has zero benefits to a guy who has game. By getting married, all you're doing is playing a game to lose +50% of your assets 50% of the time so an expected loss of 25% of your money. Even if you "win" and don't divorce, most guys end up miserable in their marriage when their wife gets fat and bitchy.
If you reality want kids and marriage, at least don't marry before 30 with out a prenup.
I would also recommend a girl not from the Anglosphere if you're dead set on marriage.
What's wrong w/ Anglophones?
And I'm past mid-20s but lust has definitely not gone away. It's purely physical though.
And I say after 30 for marriage since as a male you start peaking around 30-34 between maximizing income, expertise with women, traveling, charisma, knowledge yet while still maintaining your health. If you're going to trade in your chips do it when you maxed out the value so you're not leaving anything on the table. You should be able to get girl that's better than what you could get in your 20s if you do everything right.
Here is some advice. If you're going to get married, do it before you've loved and lost a couple women. IMO, the intensity of love diminishes with each passing love. After a while you realize that everything fades and freedom is the ultimate currency.
AAnd you better Disney land love your wife because pounding the same piece year after year is mind numbing. If you have a decent job and a drop of game it gets exponentially easier to get laid as you get older. It tapers off as you approach 55, but any man can easily go 10 years younger with age. I've seen so many dime 35-40 year olds.
IMO, I want to die and leave scholarships and a charity as my legacy. I have no interest in having kids and banging roast beef until I die just so I can say I lived a conventional life.
Then again I'm a scumbag posting on a forum of Internet bankers and dudes that would marry the first girl that would show them attention. Take it with a grain of salt.
Problem 1: Personality/physical flaws are not always readily apparent. Problem 2: The inexperienced do not know how to look for personality/physical flaws. This problem is especially pronounced in men, who can easily be tricked by makeup, pushup bras, ect. Problem 3: The inexperienced have no standard to which they can compare/contrast their current love interest.
Yeah, but there are problems with every option. Personally, everyone has issues. Even your best friend sucks after a while. Arranged marriages are probably the best because it is rational and family approved.
IMO marriage is a risky bet and a shitty bet at that. Roulette odds with a crap payout. Life is too short to be mundane.
In bullet points and no particular order:
-Marry someone within 15-20% of your financial means. -People change but be on the same page as far as the big stuff goes. -Don't marry daddy's spoiled little girl, you will never measure up. -The dynamic of any relationship is defined early, so draw your lines and stick to them. -Sex life is as important as the rest, whats the point if you aren't going to get laid or its so-so? -Don't be a pussy. -Pre-nup
Do NOT abide but the "whats next" philosophy, as in, we are dating, so whats next? Move in, whats next? Marriage, next? Kids, and so on and so forth. Figure out what you want and find someone with similar or the same views, otherwise its a recipe for disaster.
Everyone should listen to this guy above. Straight truth. Furthermore, American girls are generally not rocket scientists. Liberal arts majors (and weak ones at that) or marketing.
I've dated Indian and Asian girls and every one of them were attractive and with at least one masters degree. Most of the iIndians had two. Very intelligent people.
Hmm, now that I am reminiscing, most of the white girls I've dated were pretty vacant. Man, Wtf.
My life stopped being driven primarily by rutting urges a long time ago and my wife's qualities as a sperm receptical weren't critical in the marriage decision. Seems like that's not the case for some of you. Does sticking your dick into things really determine that much of your life?
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LOLLLL I'm assuming you read what I wrote?
I honestly don't know how getting married makes much sense. You're betting 50% of your net worth that you love a women, and, contrary to popular belief, pre nups often do not necessarily preclude the women from taking half of what you own. For example, there are myriad cases where pre nups are invalided for petty reasons like the women feeling "pressured." Also, marrying generally entails "settling down," potentially limiting your opportunities. If you decide to have kids, that's a massive investment that aggravates your finances further. I realize there are some pros to marriage, like tax benefits for instance. But overall, I just can't fathom why someone would do it..
Only tax benefit to marriage is if your spouse makes less than you. There is a penalty if you are both high earners.
And any guy who keeps asking a woman's availability after numerous blow offs is a bitch. You ask them out once or twice. They flake or say they are busy and you just move on to the next. And iI talking no notice, no asking for them when they'd be available, none of that shit. Simply stop texting or talking to them and move on to someone else.
Women like guys who just don't care. You need to get to the point where you truly don't care.
Yes and no. But more yes.
as someone who is not married and in my early 30s let me say that you are giving away a lot if you marry young. If you arent a complete loser the quality of women you can sleep with and, and if you so choose, marry, only goes up at least as far as I've gotten so far. And of course all the financial stuff has been said a million times and is obvious.
Also, to the poster above who talks about picking a woman based on how you feel when u do things like have picnics and cuddle on the couch on romantic evenings...well that is just stupid. Biology MAKES you feel great in those situations and its no predictor of how a marriage will work. This is called romantic love, it is an evolutionary adaptation that created advantages for the species and it is 100% temporary. A decade later you will not be doing those romantic things, neither of you will feel any urge to, and your life will be 100% about day-to-day reality....so choose wisely. Enjoy that drug but do not be fooled into thinking those feelings contain any wisdom or will be permanent.
First off pal, the stuff you are calling "romantic love" which "fools" people is actually sexual and it has to do with dopamine and hormones. Let's see what Webster has to say about romance.
From http://www.merriam-webster.com/: Definition 3 (the first two have to do with literature): "An ()emotional() attraction or aura belonging to an especially heroic era, adventure, or activity".
Note the word "emotional". Also, note the word "activity." The type does not matter, just the emotional response to it; similarly to the examples that you mentioned.
Most people confuse the emotional with the sexual. As a consequence they get very little of either after they marry.
Edit: Also note the word "heroic". So if your acting like a kitty, man up.
Let's see what BraverPantsMcGee has to say:
In a nutshell: no dating or marriage=no romance=happypants
Got that: @"happypantsmcgee", @"Edmundo Braverman", and @"Bondarb".
@Bondarb I just spent the day walking around Washington DC museums with my wife, now snuggling on the bed of our hotel, feeling pretty romantic. It's been over 10 years of doing this. My anecdotal experience doesn't invalidate your general theory, but I do wonder where you're pulling that theory from.
from the married couples i know...i am not married. Also more then 50% of marriages end in divorce and that doesnt even count all the miserable marriages that go on for convenience...so there's that. congratulations if u buck this trend but i have seen plenty of evidence to the contrary.
@"SSits" That's cute. My events are more like a coed version of WWE (minus the throwing stuff) punctuated by trips to the toilet to toss my cookies.
J.K. On the other hand, you really should try the crazy stuff; most women are too shy to ask.
Man, you guys are really living the caricature in this thread.
A bunch of finance tools thinking they understand emotions because they read a book and can name some hormones, and having all the answers in life because they're good at business.
You guys are fumbling around like virgins on their wedding night. 90% shoulda sat this one out. Entertaining though.
For anyone who wants a real answer, go with the brofessor's comment on the first page. WSO is hilarious with these subjects but completely clueless
@"thebrofessor"" is a modern day Socrates.
He's referring to the emotional trap women set up to ensnare men like a fly in a web, only to be eaten alive! Stick with the BraverPantsMcGee philosophy if you want to live a long, happy life.
I would guess the divorce rate is high in the US for at least two reasons:
1) The US in general doesn't have an "anti-divorce" culture. Certain groups of people like many Hindus and Catholics for example tend to be very much against divorce on principle if only for cultural/religious reasons, and while this leads to a lot of unhappy marriages persisting there is a much more prevalent mindset that divorce is not a viable option, unlike the US.
2) The US contains a much greater number of trophy-wife type marriages, ie a guy will marry an attractive girl with little to no income largely for the purpose of social standing but then interest fades as sexual appeal diminishes even though her consumption habits do not.
I could be dead wrong on both, but that's my general impression
That and people put p***y on a pedestal.
I'd add that you guys have been sold a myth that you're entitled (PUA) to self fulfillment rooted in materialism (Oprah, consumerism) and you're entitled to it immediately, with low personal effort and without introspection (no introspection is furries) as long as you have the cash to buy it. Too much for a thread, better discussed over drinks.
@Dingdong08 - there are few modern malaise that cannot be attributed in some way to furries. When are you coming to NY so I can explain over a drink or two?
Oprah is daytime women's show. Boys watch Playboy, and men live it.
Another tip - my experience is people who have divorced parents more readily see divorce as an option. This can have a few effects.
Most clearly - spouse with divorced parents more willing to walk out as they understand end of a marriage is not a low shattering disaster.
A little less obvious - spouse with no divorce parents can sometimes feel that marriage is more unbreakable than it really is and be too slow or unwilling to change bad habits that are fixing up the marriage.
I saw both factors in a marriage of two good friends. The break up was more the guy's fault (he was a case of #2). Fortunately he did learn in the long run and is in a much healthier marriage #2.
Overall, if all else was equal, I'd take someone whose parents hadn't divorced.
The broader lesson here is do your due diligence on a potential spouse's parents' relationship, particularly as that is the primary of marriage your partner has grown up with. Also check our his/her siblings' relationships, as they grew up with the same model. There are always limits to how applicable the observations are (eg my wife's patents are pretty unhappily married), but you may see the full flowering of good/bad attitudes your partner's behaviour may have hinted at.
I will always fall back on the esteemed philosopher and general renaissance man Dr. Dre: "bitches ain't shit but hoes and tricks." Has there ever been a wiser man?
Kidding obviously.
@ssit I may be in NYC in the next couple of weeks. I have a really weird and public deal cooking and i normally fly way under the radar. I truly want to hear someone pontificate on the furry movement. Personally I don't have anything against them because I've never met one but I'm 100% for the extermination of mimes. Clowns should always win against mimes. See Bob Goldwaith.
@Dingdong08 - if timing works for a meet up, great. If not, no worries. I'll PM you my email.
I'd say the most important factor to take into consideration is your own happiness and to always do what is best for your own interests, regardless of what anyone may say. Your choice of woman should depend on this criteria. You should never have to change yourself or your interests for some girl. There's 8 billion people on this earth, discard and repeat if it isn't working. But if it is working and you are happy hold on to them.
Long story short, broke up with a girl i was dating for 2 years because all my friends constantly preached about the amount of ass i could slay if i was single and i eventually gave into that persuasion, even though I was happy with that girl, thinking that maybe it was the best thing for me to do (and I was young and pretty much wanted to fuck anything). Looking back on it, 3 years and plenty of relationships later, I realize that breaking up with her was a huge mistake and that no one could make me as happy as she did. Hind sight is for sure 20/20 and I now realize the importance of being able to appreciate what you have and also not parting with a good situation for something that you "want".
I know that this experience isn't exactly in the context of marriage, but whatever you decide to do with your personal life, as long as you are happy and feel fulfilled with the person you are with, hold on to them. Don't dump someone because of your friends/family's influence or some other retarded reason. I know you're all bankers, and this comment doesn't have too much weight carrying it, but when it comes to love, don't get greedy. if you have something good don't ruin it.
tl;dr - 1) happiness is key. for a healthy relationship, happiness is the foundation 2)if its not broke don't fix it. If you have something you are truly happy with, don't go looking for something better. chances are you'll end up fucking up what you have and regretting it.
Tip #3: Be a good man who deserves a good woman and a happy marriage..
To be truthful with everyone on here, you don't get to completely choose who you fall in love with and end up marrying as long as you have a decent head about you. No, you shouldn't fall for the hot gold digger, stripper (because they will go for you, not kidding and fucking them can be a treat) or socialite but that's going to be an absolute terror in reality. I dated all of them, twice, at least, especially the strippers, and wasps. And I wouldn't commit to any girl until you're at least in you're later 20's when you have a somewhat semblance of the person you really are but for all of the posters on here who are 22 saying you're never getting coupled, you actually will and should. I was a confirmed bachelor at 27, living the life all over the world, fucked every flavor and color of girls and it wasn't that it got old (it actually can't get old fucking chicks, I will readily admit it) but you find a chick who rocks. And someone you're cool sharing the next 50 years with. I found the girl that I met freshman year so I've known her for 20+ years. Odd. But fun. Not together til late 20's. She's known my worst and best. And she's known I banged at least X number of girls before her.
There are very few people who won't at least partner with people and it becomes a pretty lonely existence. I loved fucking as many girls as possible and racked up those numbers but there's at most a 90% chance that's not what you truly want when you hit 40.
I see I've been away too long...
Don't worry @"Edmundo Braverman", I've been keeping the rabble in order in between drinks.
Not to be a pro lifer, but none of you would be preaching the negatives of marriage or kids if your parents didn't go through it at some point, even with 50% chance of failure and all that.
Chimps do practice prostitution though, and they can be trained to use money.
I'm not sure what your logic I'd here. I wouldn't be living like I am in the US if Europeans hadn't been very unpleasant to the First Nations. Are you saying I should go kill some people for their land?
This world would be incredibly better off is less people had children.
not sure that's a fair generalization as an dual national of two OECD countries, lack of child birth is becoming a really big problem in certain countries. look at china, or japan- pretty fucked from a demograhpic/economic standpoint
and here in america, because we don't have enough people to do the labor no one wants to do, we have to import the labor in (illegally, a lot of the time), which causes lots of social problems i would say (INB4 democrat monkey shit) we need more people in 3rd world shitholes utilizing contraception, and thereby having fewer kids (eg. pakistan's birth rate is 27.5 to japan's 8.3)
i think all he's saying is that we were simply lucky to given the opportunity of life, and that if we had 'parents' that thought kids weren't worth it, none of us would be here to type angry comments into the cybertubes
Jesus, I didn't need to read that first thing on a Monday morning, because it forced me to go to the data and discover this:
OMFG.
source: http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.CBRT.IN?order=wbapi_data_val…
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