Working Out - What supplements do you use, for which types of routine?

I've been thinking about getting back on supplements again after going natural for 2 years, but I'm still hesitant of whether they are healthy or not (healthy and fit are not the same thing).

Thoughts?

What supplements do you use for what type of workout?

 

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noxplode is good for preworkout if you actually work out hard.

have you tried krealkylyn?

CEE i have heard has had good results.

Key is not to have too much fat or sugar in your protein shakes.

getting your BCAA in, including glutamine is important as well for faster recovery

 
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Cell Mass is incredible, really one of the best supplements available in my opinion. Look online at some of the body building forums, the reviews across the board a pretty consistent, that it is a great product that will help your recovery and put on mass.

I feel one of the key steps is to be sure and drink plenty of water while on it. Using this product my bench has gone up and is stil increasing. Overall size and definition has increased. To be sure, it's not a miracle product I am doing weights/cardio 5 times a week and busting A, but I feel that it did give me the extra edge to get over the plateau I was facing.

 

NO Shotgun is the best pre workout creatine. Shit ton of caffeine. It really is the best if your dog tired from work or school and just need something to kick your ass. Post workout I take a creatine ethel-ester & muscle milk shake with a scoop of carb slam & BCAA's to kick recovery into gear. Hour later I take Glutamine.

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Krealkylyn works good in my experience, but use as directed. It depends on your goals.

1) If your working out to maintan your current body=>any basic supplement will suffice. My brother is 34 and is an ex-all american college wrestler(monster). He uses generic creatine, protein and just works out to maintain and drinks alot of water.

2) If your trying to get bigger aka mass, any of the big time brands like cell mass etc will do.

**I do workout, and have used every major brand, all you need is consistency, food, water and sleep.

 

WTF, is WSO a new branch of BSN?

Their products (and most notably No-Xplode) are known to be overpriced and non effective BS. 5 min spent on T-nation would have told you that. The concentration of Creatine on Cellmass is irrelevant.

Source: http://supplementpolice.com/Complaint.pdf

Muscletech is also overpriced, but better stuff.

My advice, stick to Optimum Nutrition and make your own mix. I used a wide array of products (legal), my shortlist would be: -ON Whey -ON Creatine -Fish Oil (good for your banker's brain too) -ZMA (Better sleep and skin condition)

Eat, Work out, Sleep. And Again. And Again.

My 2 cents.

 
MiniMonkey:
WTF, is WSO a new branch of BSN?

Their products (and most notably No-Xplode) are known to be overpriced and non effective BS. 5 min spent on T-nation would have told you that. The concentration of Creatine on Cellmass is irrelevant.

Source: http://supplementpolice.com/Complaint.pdf

Muscletech is also overpriced, but better stuff.

My advice, stick to Optimum Nutrition and make your own mix. I used a wide array of products (legal), my shortlist would be: -ON Whey -ON Creatine -Fish Oil (good for your banker's brain too) -ZMA (Better sleep and skin condition)

Eat, Work out, Sleep. And Again. And Again.

My 2 cents.

This is sound advice. Well done Mini.

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I have been going natural for two years and for me, there's not much difference between going natural and taking supplement. Of course, this all depends on what supplement you're taking.

If you do want to take supplements, BSN is overrated and more expensive than they should be. However, one BSN product that is very effective and worth the money (if you buy it on amazon) is the Syntha-6, which I think is better than musclemilk in taste, muscle building, amount of protein, and overall effectiveness as an alternative meal.

If you want something to pump you up, I would suggest NO Xplode, which is pretty expensive, but it works.

Personally, I just save my money and maintain a healthy diet, along with a fairly active lifestyle (working out 3-4 days a week and playing ball whenever I can for cardio.

 

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Gaspari Size On BSN NO-Xplode (prob gona phase that out because its basically a just lot of caffeine does get a good pump/strength increase) Muscle Juice 2544 (I'm prob switching to Gaspari Real Mass- this has too much sugar)

If you count other supplements:

For joint pain (I have a lot of that naturally too) Fish Oil and Krill Oil

The best supplement on the planet SAM-e 1. Helps with joint and muscle pain (best, even better than prescription IMHO) 2. Aids in the treatment of Major Depressive Disorder 3. Helps you stay awake 4. Virtually no side effects/drug interactions (except with anti-depressants)

Reality hits you hard, bro...
 

My goal is to get toned, lean muscle, not jacked and gain weight

I used 100% Whey and Musclemilk before, added with some NO2 before workout to expand the blood vessels, but since have felt good just being natural....

 

the only 2 things you need are whey and quick release carbs post workout, and some milk or cottage cheese before bed (for the casein slow release protein)...anything else is a waste of money except MAYBE creatine, preferably CEE.

 

Cellmass NT updated their creatine matrix, Myogenic Endura Shot. And what's included in this matrix are Beta-Alanine, Creatine Magnesium Chelate and Peak ATP, just to name a few. These compounds helps to increase muscular strength, endurance, and power...so they say. There are also glutamine compounds which are designed to recover from training and help repair muscles. They also added the BCAA Recovery Composite Matrix. This blend helps to improve muscle tissue repair and regulate fatigue.

NT is $10 more than Cellmass at $74. But really, they're both overpriced, and overrated.

 

BSN is BS. Don't waste your money on that overpriced, over-marketed crap.

ON is a solid brand. Good and cheap.

All you really need are:

1) Whey protein 2) Multivitamin 3) Fish oil

If you want to take it a step further and differentiate between your proteins, you can use Whey protein isolate strictly for post-workout shakes, and casein protein prior to bed. Whey isolate has a high bioavailability, meaning it gets digested and absorbed quickly, which is optimal for post-workouts. Casein takes a longer time to digest, making it ideal for when you're sleeping since it's time-released, if you will.

And LOL at wanting to get 'toned but not jacked.' If you only want to get toned, then you don't even need protein. Just do low intensity, high rep exercises and maintain a good diet. Protein is for building muscle, not for definition and burning fat.

 
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BSN is BS. Don't waste your money on that overpriced, over-marketed crap.

ON is a solid brand. Good and cheap.

All you really need are:

1) Whey protein 2) Multivitamin 3) Fish oil

If you want to take it a step further and differentiate between your proteins, you can use Whey protein isolate strictly for post-workout shakes, and casein protein prior to bed. Whey isolate has a high bioavailability, meaning it gets digested and absorbed quickly, which is optimal for post-workouts. Casein takes a longer time to digest, making it ideal for when you're sleeping since it's time-released, if you will.

And LOL at wanting to get 'toned but not jacked.' If you only want to get toned, then you don't even need protein. Just do low intensity, high rep exercises and maintain a good diet. Protein is for building muscle, not for definition and burning fat.

You're the only guy who's making sense here. If you eat right, there's no need for any of this NO-Xplode, BSN, creatine ethyl ester, etc. bullshit.

1) Eat enough protein to keep growing, and supplement with whey/casein/milk protein as needed 2) Make sure you get your EFAs (fish oils) 3) Take some creatine monohydrate since it's so cheap 4) Take some caffeine pre-workout if you need the energy boost (morning workout, burnt out from work, etc.) 5) Eat/drink some simple carbs (rice, oats, Gatorade, etc) pre-workout for the energy

And most importantly... lift heavy weight. You can spend a thousand dollars on supplements, but it won't do shit if all you're doing are curls and bench pressing.

 
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Rana Clamitans:
BSN is BS. Don't waste your money on that overpriced, over-marketed crap.

ON is a solid brand. Good and cheap.

All you really need are:

1) Whey protein 2) Multivitamin 3) Fish oil

If you want to take it a step further and differentiate between your proteins, you can use Whey protein isolate strictly for post-workout shakes, and casein protein prior to bed. Whey isolate has a high bioavailability, meaning it gets digested and absorbed quickly, which is optimal for post-workouts. Casein takes a longer time to digest, making it ideal for when you're sleeping since it's time-released, if you will.

And LOL at wanting to get 'toned but not jacked.' If you only want to get toned, then you don't even need protein. Just do low intensity, high rep exercises and maintain a good diet. Protein is for building muscle, not for definition and burning fat.

You're the only guy who's making sense here. If you eat right, there's no need for any of this NO-Xplode, BSN, creatine ethyl ester, etc. bullshit.

1) Eat enough protein to keep growing, and supplement with whey/casein/milk protein as needed 2) Make sure you get your EFAs (fish oils) 3) Take some creatine monohydrate since it's so cheap 4) Take some caffeine pre-workout if you need the energy boost (morning workout, burnt out from work, etc.) 5) Eat/drink some simple carbs (rice, oats, Gatorade, etc) pre-workout for the energy

And most importantly... lift heavy weight. You can spend a thousand dollars on supplements, but it won't do shit if all you're doing are curls and bench pressing.

This thread has been dead a while but I just thought I'd reiterate that Jack3d is a phenomenal pre-workout supplement. I've used NO-xplode since high school and even with cycling, it definitely wears off. Jack3d feels very similar to the rush you get from cocaine (according to my friend). And you don't feel like crapping your pants like with no-xplode. It's definitely great for people that drink coffee regularly, and turns a normally dismal workout (from being tired) into an energetic, fun time at the gym. One thing I will admit is when I'm off it for a month or so, I feel less motivated to work out.

+1 for ON whey/casein protein, I use that stuff religiously.

 

In terms of lifting, if you're lifting hard:

Pre-workout pump: White Flood (mix it with a teaspoon of Glutamine) Pre-work out creatine (I recommend Overdrive from nutrition zone)

Post workout: Whey (Lean Pro Matrix is by far the best in my opinion) Post workout creatine

Also look into vitamins specifically designed for your sex that you have to take at least twice a day. Though I don't really like GNC, their Mega-Men (or Mega-Woman) vitamins do the job. I've heard rave reviews about Alive! vitamins from my friends who take it three times a day. They both keep you sharp in the office as well, as they contain large amounts of vitamin B.

If you're able to build and maintain lean muscle, even if its not very visible, it will dramatically speed up your metabolism so that you're burning more calories when you're sitting in front of a computer screen.

 

From personal experience with White Flood I'm less jittery and more focused than NO-Explode (though Super Pump 250 is great too, just don't take it for too long).

Also, Lean Pro Matrix > ON Whey any day. Lean Pro is a mix of fast-release protein (Whey), slow-release (Casein), vitamins, glutamine, and soy protein. Highest protein/calorie ratio I've seen out there. The reason it's not as well known is that it's sold only by Nutrition Zone which is based in Orange County/So Cal.

 

All the previous posts touch on the foundations of a good supplementation routine, however you should also consider adding intra workout amino acids.....

big emphasis these days is on "during workout" nutrition. Alot of companies make amino acid drinks that you sip on while you workout. Ad alot of amino acids to your total diet, increase recovery, decrease soreness, increase stamina during workout, etc. Great stuff. Purple Wraath and Xtend are both really good choices. I take lemonade xtend now and it tastes great.

 

what protein would you guys recommend for someone looking to lose weight?

i've got my cardio and diet in check, but i'm also working out to build some lean muscle too.

i currently have nitrotech but this stuff is 110cals a scoop. advice? not using any pre work out supplement as of yet. not on fish oil or anything, just have a multivitamin

 

Nitro tech isn't that great. Overpriced as well. Normal micronized whey (like ON) is fine for building lean muscle while you're simultaneously trying to decrease body fat.

You might want to look at pre-workout pumps like the ones previously mentioned, caffeine is a natural fat-burner, and the large amount of caffeine in them facilitates fat burning. Just keep eating right and try to get enough sleep.

If you're trying to lose weight and gain lean muscle do you have a friend who can show you some full body engaging lifts that can help you speed up your metabolism?

Squats, deadlifts, power clean, bench press, barbell rows, basically don't be one of those guys doing bicep curls for 2 hours. Make sure you're using the correct form/spotter as the potential for injury is there if you have poor form. You basically want to engage the muscles that are your largest muscles (legs and back). Doing so will stimulate your body's natural testosterone production which will help you increase lean muscle mass and burn fat easier.

 

All those NO xplode, cell mass nitro tech staff are overpriced man..

Ive been training for 5 years~ if you wanna get big or lean, Whey protein, Creatine monohydrate and glutamine (for recovery) will do the trick.. you diet is more important depending on what you wanna achieve.

I used all those fancy products before when I was younger and stupid enough to believe in hypes~ well.. cellmass and nitrotech definitely taste better than Monohydrate.. but thats it.

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supplements + dedication would definitely help~ Creatine + Whey worked great for me.. but sometimes it doesn't look that good to buff up, I stoped when I reached 179 lbs 6 feet.. proportional is the key.

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I've always had good results with Cell-Tech for getting through a plateau or for adding 15 pounds right before spring break. Probably half of it water weight, but you look pretty ripped anyway. All of Muscletech is really overpriced, but their products really work. I would rather spend twice as much on a guarantee than waste the gym time experimenting with some no name crap.

Other than that, I just have a whey shake pre-workout and a solid high protein meal after. Supplements are nice for a boost, but eating correctly is just as, if not more important than what goes on in the gym. Also, workout style is a big part of buffing up as someone said above. Powerful, explosive exercises are key for mass. No one's going to get swoll doing P90x.

 

Dude, cell-tech is just a "modified" creatine monohydrate~ It taste good, but the result is exactly the same as monohydrate for me and all my work-out friends (We usually order together in bulk).

Well, if it mentally helps you, pay for it. We stoped buying it after realizing that the result was the same as using GNC monohydrate. (same applies to BSN Cell-mass)

Try it and you will see, creatine is creatine~ those extra staff they add in might not be healthy for you too.

If you really wanna get bulk fast, get some Methyl Masterdrol A.K.A. legal steriod.

It works REALLY well, I never used it but my friends who did got bulk up and vascular like crazy, looks like Xplode in 4 weeks.. crazy staff..

I wouldnt recommend touch that thing though..lol

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feather225:
Dude, cell-tech is just a "modified" creatine monohydrate~ It taste good, but the result is exactly the same as monohydrate for me and all my work-out friends (We usually order together in bulk).

Well, if it mentally helps you, pay for it. We stoped buying it after realizing that the result was the same as using GNC monohydrate. (same applies to BSN Cell-mass)

Try it and you will see, creatine is creatine~ those extra staff they add in might not be healthy for you too.

If you really wanna get bulk fast, get some Methyl Masterdrol A.K.A. legal steriod.

It works REALLY well, I never used it but my friends who did got bulk up and vascular like crazy, looks like Xplode in 4 weeks.. crazy staff..

I wouldnt recommend touch that thing though..lol

I know, I hear that pretty consistently about Cell-Tech. I actually did try GNC mono powder and mixed it with grape juice. I just felt like quantitatively and qualitatively I didn't see the results. Who knows, placebo effect maybe.

Oh, and I definitely second the ZMA. Great stuff for the price.

 

go to anabolicminds.com -- they have a great supplement forum that goes over EVERYTHING. They actually know what they're talking about unlike 95% of the people here who obviously buy the product with the coolest looking label.

 

True, real trainers dont really give a damn about hypes~ Good diet + basic supplement + dedication = results.

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feather225:
True, real trainers dont really give a damn about hypes~ Good diet + basic supplement + dedication = results.

A good creatine or pre workout can really help you break out of a slump though.

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If you're not into doing T400 stacked with Deca-Durabolin (after a 4-week cycle of Dianabol, of course) and a follow-up cycle of oxandrolone, then I would recommend a solid pre-workout creatine/hemodilator combo drink mix, and a decent post-workout protein.

My preworkout is Jack3D-- its about half the price of NO-Xplod and comes in a single container with a scoop, so I can regulate how much I use-- less if I've had coffee that morning, etc.

Post-- Muscle Milk (Chocolate Chip Mint is the best, IMO).

I always take a multi in the morning, and usually 1000 mg of L-Arginine.

 

I agree wit you westfald, but in my case, basic creatine monohydrate wit a banana shake is sufficient for pre workout supp.. many "good" pre work out products today contain tons of caffeine.. real bad for the heart especailly under intense workout~ I used to take NO Xplode and nitrotech for pre, makes me sick after a while coz of the caffine and I found it real hard to fall asleep even taking it 8 hours before bedtime.. It does stimulate some energy; but to me its just the same as tje basic creatine mono other than the fact that I get dizzy withd fansy ones ..

Again, the effect differs from person to person, but try different options and stay healthy.

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Been working out intensively for six years, and have tested a number of supplements. My nutrition has been perfect for as long as I can remember. The only time I deviate from actually being a health freak is drinking vodka (only drink is straight).

My supplements:

EPA/DHA fish oil: ABSOLUTELY IMPERATIVE!!!! Must have at least 10 I.E. of Vitamin E to maintain quality (Pure Encapsulations) Multivitamin: Nutrient 950 with no iron (Pure Encapsulations) L-Glutamin (Pharmaceutical grade is a must) (Sci-Fit) Whey Protein Isolate: Find a whey that is made via grass fed animals.

Jack3d: Pre workout - I have taken No-Explode (its full of fillers) which dilutes its potency. Jack3d is a phenomenal supplement.

Hope this helps.

PM me if you need any advice.

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Research his articles on nutrition, and supplements to get the truth on all this bullshit available in the marketplace. His supplements are brutally expensive, but worth the cash if you're willing.

 

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99% of (legal) supplements are a huge waste of money. All you really need is: - Whey (not essential - you could get all the protein you need from food) - Fish oil (everyone should be taking this anyway) - Multivitamin (again, not strictly essential)

I remember when I just started training, I used to spend so much money on all these bullshit supplements. If you want something for pre-workout, have a cup of coffee.

Regarding the routine, I'm currently doing Bill Starr 5x5 madcow routine, but after the summer will probably start doing a 5 day split (i.e. training a different muscle group every day and going to the gym 5 days per week).

 

I've been back and forth on supplements, and I'm with some of the others that simpler is better. Nowadays I drink lowfat, grass-fed chocolate milk post-workout, and maybe a shot of espresso pre-workout if I'm dragging. While I believe in fish oil, my discipline to take it every day has waxed and waned. Whey protein, fish oil, multi, and maybe creatine...KISS!

 

I'd recommend 3-basic supplements for everyone. There are lots of other exercise/sport-specific supplements as well but in my opinion the benefit from these three are much larger. 1. Greens+ powder (for when you aren't eating enough vegetables) 2. Protein powder (for when you aren't eating enough whole-food meats/fish/eggs) 3. Fish oil (for when you aren't eating enough fish and your omega-3 / -6 is out of balance)

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I used to have buddies that worked at GNC and they swore by these things. They take their supplements religiously and would miss a day of their vitamins here or there and practically crash, lol. After you see that you no longer question if multis are worth taking, lol.

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I want to cut fat and gain muscle at the same stretch of period.

  1. Is this possible to under-eat and force my body to burn fat in order to build muscle?

  2. Is this more efficient than going on cutting/bulking cycles?

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Is there any way I can get taller, and at what age do you stop growing?

External factors may influence but do very little given that you weren't malnourished growing up. Your final adult height is primarily dependent on genetics; there may be an odd number of individuals that deviate from the norm but if you look at the height of your siblings, parents then grandparents, you should have a good clue on how tall you will end up becoming.

Longitudinal growth in men usually stops around the age of 21, however past the age of 18 you shouldn't be expecting to grow more than 1-2 inches max unless you have a growth abnormality such as irregular pituitary gland function. In those cases, studies have shown that administration of HGH and for some aromatase inhibitors may boost growth in those that were DEFICIENT, but unmonitored self-administration will do you more harm than good.

For example, HGH can lead to growth abnormalities such as enlarged skeletal structure or growth of vital organs. Imagine having one hand that is noticibly bigger than the other in hope of gaining 2 inches in height. Furthermore, hypertrophy of organs can be deadly.

To put aromatase inhibitors in simple terms, there are 2 main types that have similar functions. The first is it kills the estrogen, commonly known as suicide inhibitors. The second takes the place of estrogen at the binding site, meaning its free flowing in our body. Theoretically, aromatase inhibitors should help increase height because estrogen is the hormone that seals our epyiphyseal plates(once sealed, height growth stops), so by by suppressing or "killing" the estrogen in our body, the plates stay open longer. This is the main contributor to the difference in height between men and women.

To sum everything up, learn to be confident with your height. I'm quite short myself and at times feel insecure, but you just have to accept it and move on. Besides eating/resting well, there really isn't anything you can do about it. The last thing you want to do is self-administer anything that could potentially screw yourself up internally and make the situation worse than it was in the first place.

jcpenny:

I want to cut fat and gain muscle at the same stretch of period.

1. Is this possible to under-eat and force my body to burn fat in order to build muscle?

2. Is this more efficient than going on cutting/bulking cycles?

Lou:

I've been going to the gym 3-4 times a week while being on a low-carb diet. I've lost weight, but how do I become more toned?

Going to lump these 2 questions together if that's okay with you guys. The perception of being tone today is a decent build in addition to relatively low bodyfat percentages. If you are overweight/obese and your main goal is to lose weight, consistent exercise and tracking your calories is all there is to it. Use a calorie calculator to estimate your daily recommended intake(recommend this one: http://iifym.com/iifym-calculator/) and adjust it to your goals accordingly.

If you have a "normal" body and want to get leaner, I would recommend the same but with a smaller deficit in calories to try to maintain as much muscle as possible. While body recomposition is possible, its extremely inefficient as you're trying to kill two birds with one stone. Your body always seeks equilibrium, so choosing one and sticking to it is your best bet. If bulking(trying to gain muscle), I would suggest getting a program that has you lifting weights 3-4x a week, and 1-2 15 minute sessions a week of running just to get your cardiovascular health up.

Calories should be around 500 above maintenance to stay relatively lean. Once you feel like you are getting too heavy(a good bulk should last 4 months minimum IMO), you can ease your way down to 500 below deficit and stick to that. Once your weight loss plateaus, I usually have my clients drop it by 100 calories every week until their hit their goal weight.

Fat and muscle are two completely different tissues; they do not interact and one cannot turn into the other. Weight loss and weight gain is about energy balance.. if you are deficient in energy(low calories, more exercise) you will lose weight- and the reverse is true as well.

Sorry for the essays, I'm a freshman in university so I have a good amount of spare time on my hands. Hope that helped!

 
  1. which protein is the most prestigious?
  2. what types of ECs will I need to get into a top gym?
  3. which types of workouts are easier for non-targets?
  4. which diets have the best exit opps? I'm thinking 2 & out.
  5. are there any training regimens that have less hours than the more prestigious ones?
  6. what attire is ok, am I good with UA/NB/NKE or should I splurge on brooks, D&G, tony snyder, marc jacobs, etc.? what are the other gymgoers wearing?
  7. what workouts are best for models & bottles?

edit: looked back at some of your old threads OP, did you just graduate high school this year?

 

1) Obviously, MusclePharm. The company is killing it this year and looking to IPO soon. ON Whey is way too pedistrian. 2) The same ones you would need to land an analyst positions since all the top BBs have gyms in their office. 3) Ones that hit legs because target school kids normally do curls for the girls. 4) Just like banking, you should do it for the lifestyle. Thus, would not recommend diets. 5) Nope. MM workouts are the same as EB/BB workouts. No shortcuts. 6) UA is nice and reliable. They might buy up Lululemon soon too so you could then fit some of those nice yoga pants in. 7) 2x5 split of Arms and chest.

Hope this helps.

 

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March 2024 Investment Banking

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  • Goldman Sachs 19 98.8%
  • Harris Williams & Co. (++) 98.3%
  • Lazard Freres 02 97.7%
  • JPMorgan Chase 03 97.1%

Overall Employee Satisfaction

March 2024 Investment Banking

  • Harris Williams & Co. 18 99.4%
  • JPMorgan Chase 10 98.8%
  • Lazard Freres 05 98.3%
  • Morgan Stanley 07 97.7%
  • William Blair 03 97.1%

Professional Growth Opportunities

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  • Jefferies & Company 02 98.8%
  • Goldman Sachs 17 98.3%
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  • JPMorgan Chase 05 97.1%

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  • Associates (85) $262
  • 3rd+ Year Analyst (13) $181
  • Intern/Summer Associate (33) $170
  • 2nd Year Analyst (65) $168
  • 1st Year Analyst (198) $159
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