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I've been thinking about getting back on supplements again after going natural for 2 years, but I'm still hesitant of whether they are healthy or not (healthy and fit are not the same thing).

Thoughts?

What supplements do you use for what type of workout?

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  • yytseeker's picture

    what types of supplements/ workouts have you done before?

  • KeepinItReal's picture

    NO Xplode- pre workout
    Cell Mass- Post Workout
    This in addition to eating healthy and getting enough protein

    best stack out...you will see big gains in a few weeks

  • FTPiper's picture

    hydroxcut. its the best out there.

  • wbuffett's picture

    hahaha winny and deca, no question

  • coffeebateman's picture

    Muscle Milk is all you need

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  • yytseeker's picture

    noxplode is good for preworkout if you actually work out hard.

    have you tried krealkylyn?

    CEE i have heard has had good results.

    Key is not to have too much fat or sugar in your protein shakes.

    getting your BCAA in, including glutamine is important as well for faster recovery

  • MMBinNC's picture

    When I get in the gym the situation is gonna be indescribable, you can't even describe the situation that you're about to get into with The Situation.

    Reality hits you hard, bro...

  • ixjunitxi's picture

    Cell Mass is incredible, really one of the best supplements available in my opinion. Look online at some of the body building forums, the reviews across the board a pretty consistent, that it is a great product that will help your recovery and put on mass.

    I feel one of the key steps is to be sure and drink plenty of water while on it. Using this product my bench has gone up and is stil increasing. Overall size and definition has increased. To be sure, it's not a miracle product I am doing weights/cardio 5 times a week and busting A, but I feel that it did give me the extra edge to get over the plateau I was facing.

  • Stringer Bell's picture

    NO Shotgun is the best pre workout creatine. Shit ton of caffeine. It really is the best if your dog tired from work or school and just need something to kick your ass. Post workout I take a creatine ethel-ester & muscle milk shake with a scoop of carb slam & BCAA's to kick recovery into gear. Hour later I take Glutamine.

  • iscbruc14's picture

    Krealkylyn works good in my experience, but use as directed. It depends on your goals.

    1) If your working out to maintan your current body=>any basic supplement will suffice. My brother is 34 and is an ex-all american college wrestler(monster). He uses generic creatine, protein and just works out to maintain and drinks alot of water.

    2) If your trying to get bigger aka mass, any of the big time brands like cell mass etc will do.

    **I do workout, and have used every major brand, all you need is consistency, food, water and sleep.

  • BudFox24's picture

    BSN products are no doubt the best. I used a cycle of axis, cell mass, and No-xplode and gained about 25 pounds.

    KICKIN ASS AND TAKING NAMES

  • MiniMonkey's picture

    WTF, is WSO a new branch of BSN?

    Their products (and most notably No-Xplode) are known to be overpriced and non effective BS.
    5 min spent on T-nation would have told you that. The concentration of Creatine on Cellmass is irrelevant.

    Source: http://supplementpolice.com/Complaint.pdf

    Muscletech is also overpriced, but better stuff.

    My advice, stick to Optimum Nutrition and make your own mix.
    I used a wide array of products (legal), my shortlist would be:
    -ON Whey
    -ON Creatine
    -Fish Oil (good for your banker's brain too)
    -ZMA (Better sleep and skin condition)

    Eat, Work out, Sleep. And Again. And Again.

    My 2 cents.

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  • RKBanker's picture

    I have been going natural for two years and for me, there's not much difference between going natural and taking supplement. Of course, this all depends on what supplement you're taking.

    If you do want to take supplements, BSN is overrated and more expensive than they should be. However, one BSN product that is very effective and worth the money (if you buy it on amazon) is the Syntha-6, which I think is better than musclemilk in taste, muscle building, amount of protein, and overall effectiveness as an alternative meal.

    If you want something to pump you up, I would suggest NO Xplode, which is pretty expensive, but it works.

    Personally, I just save my money and maintain a healthy diet, along with a fairly active lifestyle (working out 3-4 days a week and playing ball whenever I can for cardio.

  • MMBinNC's picture

    My real answer now...

    Gaspari Size On
    BSN NO-Xplode (prob gona phase that out because its basically a just lot of caffeine does get a good pump/strength increase)
    Muscle Juice 2544 (I'm prob switching to Gaspari Real Mass- this has too much sugar)

    If you count other supplements:

    For joint pain (I have a lot of that naturally too) Fish Oil and Krill Oil

    The best supplement on the planet SAM-e
    1. Helps with joint and muscle pain (best, even better than prescription IMHO)
    2. Aids in the treatment of Major Depressive Disorder
    3. Helps you stay awake
    4. Virtually no side effects/drug interactions (except with anti-depressants)

    Reality hits you hard, bro...

  • Ben Shalom Bernanke's picture

    Can a meathead out there explain to me the difference of CellMass vs. CellMass NT?

  • runningcitylikediddy's picture

    My goal is to get toned, lean muscle, not jacked and gain weight

    I used 100% Whey and Musclemilk before, added with some NO2 before workout to expand the blood vessels, but since have felt good just being natural....

  • swagon's picture

    the only 2 things you need are whey and quick release carbs post workout, and some milk or cottage cheese before bed (for the casein slow release protein)...anything else is a waste of money except MAYBE creatine, preferably CEE.

  • RKBanker's picture

    Cellmass NT updated their creatine matrix, Myogenic Endura Shot. And what's included in this matrix are Beta-Alanine, Creatine Magnesium Chelate and Peak ATP, just to name a few. These compounds helps to increase muscular strength, endurance, and power...so they say. There are also glutamine compounds which are designed to recover from training and help repair muscles. They also added the BCAA Recovery Composite Matrix. This blend helps to improve muscle tissue repair and regulate fatigue.

    NT is $10 more than Cellmass at $74. But really, they're both overpriced, and overrated.

  • Ben Shalom Bernanke's picture

    Thanks RKBanker much appreciated. I've also heard from others I've talked to that this is overpriced and ineffective for some.

    Does anyone know anything about PRIME muscle pills from USP Labs?

  • In reply to MiniMonkey
    veritas14's picture

    MiniMonkey:
    WTF, is WSO a new branch of BSN?

    Their products (and most notably No-Xplode) are known to be overpriced and non effective BS.
    5 min spent on T-nation would have told you that. The concentration of Creatine on Cellmass is irrelevant.

    Source: http://supplementpolice.com/Complaint.pdf

    Muscletech is also overpriced, but better stuff.

    My advice, stick to Optimum Nutrition and make your own mix.
    I used a wide array of products (legal), my shortlist would be:
    -ON Whey
    -ON Creatine
    -Fish Oil (good for your banker's brain too)
    -ZMA (Better sleep and skin condition)

    Eat, Work out, Sleep. And Again. And Again.

    My 2 cents.

    This is sound advice. Well done Mini.

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  • CUSIP's picture

    Jack3d.... tiny scoops and cheap- will change your life i promise

  • SAC's picture

    CytoSport Fasttwitch is the best Pre-Workout energy drink out there

  • creative's picture

    Whey
    I eat 20 lbs of red meat a week.
    Anadrol 3//1 3-1-3 cycle

    Multivitamin?

  • Rana Clamitans's picture

    BSN is BS. Don't waste your money on that overpriced, over-marketed crap.

    ON is a solid brand. Good and cheap.

    All you really need are:

    1) Whey protein
    2) Multivitamin
    3) Fish oil

    If you want to take it a step further and differentiate between your proteins, you can use Whey protein isolate strictly for post-workout shakes, and casein protein prior to bed. Whey isolate has a high bioavailability, meaning it gets digested and absorbed quickly, which is optimal for post-workouts. Casein takes a longer time to digest, making it ideal for when you're sleeping since it's time-released, if you will.

    And LOL at wanting to get 'toned but not jacked.' If you only want to get toned, then you don't even need protein. Just do low intensity, high rep exercises and maintain a good diet. Protein is for building muscle, not for definition and burning fat.

  • kuf135's picture

    In terms of lifting, if you're lifting hard:

    Pre-workout pump: White Flood (mix it with a teaspoon of Glutamine)
    Pre-work out creatine (I recommend Overdrive from nutrition zone)

    Post workout: Whey (Lean Pro Matrix is by far the best in my opinion)
    Post workout creatine

    Also look into vitamins specifically designed for your sex that you have to take at least twice a day. Though I don't really like GNC, their Mega-Men (or Mega-Woman) vitamins do the job. I've heard rave reviews about Alive! vitamins from my friends who take it three times a day. They both keep you sharp in the office as well, as they contain large amounts of vitamin B.

    If you're able to build and maintain lean muscle, even if its not very visible, it will dramatically speed up your metabolism so that you're burning more calories when you're sitting in front of a computer screen.

  • Banker88's picture

    Muscle Milk! Pre-workout, post-workout, and before bed.

  • BallinBanker's picture

    White Flood Pre Work out is the way to go!
    After work out is Optimum Whey.

  • HeyFloydWhaddyaSay's picture

    All the previous posts touch on the foundations of a good supplementation routine, however you should also consider adding intra workout amino acids.....

    big emphasis these days is on "during workout" nutrition. Alot of companies make amino acid drinks that you sip on while you workout. Ad alot of amino acids to your total diet, increase recovery, decrease soreness, increase stamina during workout, etc. Great stuff. Purple Wraath and Xtend are both really good choices. I take lemonade xtend now and it tastes great.

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  • In reply to Marcus_Halberstram
    kuf135's picture

    From personal experience with White Flood I'm less jittery and more focused than NO-Explode (though Super Pump 250 is great too, just don't take it for too long).

    Also, Lean Pro Matrix > ON Whey any day. Lean Pro is a mix of fast-release protein (Whey), slow-release (Casein), vitamins, glutamine, and soy protein. Highest protein/calorie ratio I've seen out there. The reason it's not as well known is that it's sold only by Nutrition Zone which is based in Orange County/So Cal.

  • tuaj's picture

    what protein would you guys recommend for someone looking to lose weight?

    i've got my cardio and diet in check, but i'm also working out to build some lean muscle too.

    i currently have nitrotech but this stuff is 110cals a scoop. advice? not using any pre work out supplement as of yet. not on fish oil or anything, just have a multivitamin

  • kuf135's picture

    Nitro tech isn't that great. Overpriced as well. Normal micronized whey (like ON) is fine for building lean muscle while you're simultaneously trying to decrease body fat.

    You might want to look at pre-workout pumps like the ones previously mentioned, caffeine is a natural fat-burner, and the large amount of caffeine in them facilitates fat burning. Just keep eating right and try to get enough sleep.

    If you're trying to lose weight and gain lean muscle do you have a friend who can show you some full body engaging lifts that can help you speed up your metabolism?

    Squats, deadlifts, power clean, bench press, barbell rows, basically don't be one of those guys doing bicep curls for 2 hours. Make sure you're using the correct form/spotter as the potential for injury is there if you have poor form. You basically want to engage the muscles that are your largest muscles (legs and back). Doing so will stimulate your body's natural testosterone production which will help you increase lean muscle mass and burn fat easier.

  • tuaj's picture

    Nice, thanks for the tips. Banana rightly awarded.

  • poormonkeynomoney's picture

    All those NO xplode, cell mass nitro tech staff are overpriced man..

    Ive been training for 5 years~ if you wanna get big or lean, Whey protein, Creatine monohydrate and glutamine (for recovery) will do the trick.. you diet is more important depending on what you wanna achieve.

    I used all those fancy products before when I was younger and stupid enough to believe in hypes~ well.. cellmass and nitrotech definitely taste better than Monohydrate.. but thats it.

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  • LTV's picture

    Bit off topic, but are supplements necessary if you're looking to buff up?

    I've been working out last 2 years, but have lately hit a saturation point with respect to maximum weight I can lift. I usually stay away from unnatural sources of nutrition, but am considering making an exception here.

  • poormonkeynomoney's picture

    supplements + dedication would definitely help~ Creatine + Whey worked great for me.. but sometimes it doesn't look that good to buff up, I stoped when I reached 179 lbs 6 feet.. proportional is the key.

    Signs of Recession:
    Banker: "Where's me Bonus?"
    Yuppie: "Whadya mean I have to actually work?"
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    Cowen: "It's not my fault that me and my party are complete f**k-ups - it's the recession silly!"

  • Scrambles's picture

    I've always had good results with Cell-Tech for getting through a plateau or for adding 15 pounds right before spring break. Probably half of it water weight, but you look pretty ripped anyway. All of Muscletech is really overpriced, but their products really work. I would rather spend twice as much on a guarantee than waste the gym time experimenting with some no name crap.

    Other than that, I just have a whey shake pre-workout and a solid high protein meal after. Supplements are nice for a boost, but eating correctly is just as, if not more important than what goes on in the gym. Also, workout style is a big part of buffing up as someone said above. Powerful, explosive exercises are key for mass. No one's going to get swoll doing P90x.

  • poormonkeynomoney's picture

    Dude, cell-tech is just a "modified" creatine monohydrate~ It taste good, but the result is exactly the same as monohydrate for me and all my work-out friends (We usually order together in bulk).

    Well, if it mentally helps you, pay for it. We stoped buying it after realizing that the result was the same as using GNC monohydrate. (same applies to BSN Cell-mass)

    Try it and you will see, creatine is creatine~ those extra staff they add in might not be healthy for you too.

    If you really wanna get bulk fast, get some Methyl Masterdrol A.K.A. legal steriod.

    It works REALLY well, I never used it but my friends who did got bulk up and vascular like crazy, looks like Xplode in 4 weeks.. crazy staff..

    I wouldnt recommend touch that thing though..lol

    Signs of Recession:
    Banker: "Where's me Bonus?"
    Yuppie: "Whadya mean I have to actually work?"
    Fox Rock Mum: "Lidl's the place to be seen in now!"
    Cowen: "It's not my fault that me and my party are complete f**k-ups - it's the recession silly!"

  • greenapple's picture

    go to anabolicminds.com -- they have a great supplement forum that goes over EVERYTHING. They actually know what they're talking about unlike 95% of the people here who obviously buy the product with the coolest looking label.

  • In reply to poormonkeynomoney
    Scrambles's picture

    feather225:
    Dude, cell-tech is just a "modified" creatine monohydrate~ It taste good, but the result is exactly the same as monohydrate for me and all my work-out friends (We usually order together in bulk).

    Well, if it mentally helps you, pay for it. We stoped buying it after realizing that the result was the same as using GNC monohydrate. (same applies to BSN Cell-mass)

    Try it and you will see, creatine is creatine~ those extra staff they add in might not be healthy for you too.

    If you really wanna get bulk fast, get some Methyl Masterdrol A.K.A. legal steriod.

    It works REALLY well, I never used it but my friends who did got bulk up and vascular like crazy, looks like Xplode in 4 weeks.. crazy staff..

    I wouldnt recommend touch that thing though..lol

    I know, I hear that pretty consistently about Cell-Tech. I actually did try GNC mono powder and mixed it with grape juice. I just felt like quantitatively and qualitatively I didn't see the results. Who knows, placebo effect maybe.

    Oh, and I definitely second the ZMA. Great stuff for the price.

  • poormonkeynomoney's picture

    True, real trainers dont really give a damn about hypes~ Good diet + basic supplement + dedication = results.

    Signs of Recession:
    Banker: "Where's me Bonus?"
    Yuppie: "Whadya mean I have to actually work?"
    Fox Rock Mum: "Lidl's the place to be seen in now!"
    Cowen: "It's not my fault that me and my party are complete f**k-ups - it's the recession silly!"

  • In reply to poormonkeynomoney
    Stringer Bell's picture

    feather225:
    True, real trainers dont really give a damn about hypes~ Good diet + basic supplement + dedication = results.

    A good creatine or pre workout can really help you break out of a slump though.

  • BigFatPanda's picture

    If you're not into doing T400 stacked with Deca-Durabolin (after a 4-week cycle of Dianabol, of course) and a follow-up cycle of oxandrolone, then I would recommend a solid pre-workout creatine/hemodilator combo drink mix, and a decent post-workout protein.

    My preworkout is Jack3D-- its about half the price of NO-Xplod and comes in a single container with a scoop, so I can regulate how much I use-- less if I've had coffee that morning, etc.

    Post-- Muscle Milk (Chocolate Chip Mint is the best, IMO).

    I always take a multi in the morning, and usually 1000 mg of L-Arginine.

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