11/4/10

I've read that there are about 40,000 members on WSO. Any ideas about the distribution over the various membership states (i.e. Monkey, Senior Baboon, Neanderthal etc.)?

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11/4/10

So here's my question on Silver Banana's. Are they generally awarded only for very witty/funny posts? Or genuinely helpful posts as well?

As lame is this may sound, I thought I deserved a Silver Banana for some posts, but had no luck.

-MBP

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11/4/10

Take a look at the top posters list. 33 Posters have 1000 posts or more. There are a lot of people who post or people who maybe post 50 comments and get a job followed by a new poster, but much of the content is provided by a core group of posters.

11/4/10

Probably something resembling exponential skewed heavily towards Chimps who made zero or one or two posts and that's it. Certainly the vast majority of the 40000 are Senior Monkeys or less. How many posters' names do you recognize as you read through? 200ish maybe?

11/4/10

yeah, we could break this down, but it would be heavily skewed to the Chimp + Monkey status (like any online forum)...my guess is ~90%

11/4/10

Yeah, agree. Thats good though. The site helps a lot of people and is a great info source. If 40K signed up I cannot imagine how many simply come and view it.

11/4/10

Well there are only 2 senior Neanderthals

BOOYAH

11/4/10

That's true Anthony, I visited the site for many weeks before I signed up. I think my estimate is as follows:

Chimp - Senior Monkey: 35,000
Baboon - Senior Orangutan: 4,500
Gorilla - Senior Gorilla: 450
King Kong and above: 50

It would be interesting to see the actual distribution if it's in the works.

-MBP

11/4/10

There should be a prize for the first person to achieve Human status.

-MBP

11/4/10

Yeah, you get banned from the site and have to get a life lol

Edmundo will beat me, the bastard. Once you reach a certain level the new status levels get pretty wide.

11/4/10

lmao, good one.

p.s. with this post, I evolve to baboon.

-MBP

In reply to TNA
11/4/10
Anthony .:

Well there are only 2 senior Neanderthals

BOOYAH

LMAO.

11/4/10

I'm cool being top of the heap...top 33 out of 40k aint bad

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11/4/10

There was a point in time not too long ago that I had 1,000+ more posts than Anthony. Somebody spends a lot of time on this site!

I think the true measure of the man is the silver bananas! Remember folks, quality, not quantity!

Also, if you do a quick count by clicking "more" on the right side of the screen next to "Top WSO Users", you get the following:

Senior Neanderthal: 2
Neanderthal: 6
King Kong: 25

CompBanker

11/4/10

Yes, far too much time. I get a lot of enjoyment from the site and actually a lot of tangible benefits.

I agree. Silver Banana's are the true measure of quality.

11/4/10

Oh well, at least I don't have monkey shit either.

-MBP

11/4/10

Back in Summer of 2008 when I was using site traffic metrics to sell ads I actually remember calculating that the top 1% of posters accounted for 90% of the posts.

"Oh the ladies ever tell you that you look like a fucking optical illusion" - Frank Slaughtery 25th Hour.

11/4/10

I just clicked on More and saw that Affluenza is still one of the top posters with 753 points. Do you guys remember her? Can you believe she's been gone a year and a half?

11/4/10

There is an interesting dynamic. Silver Bananas come from helpful posts mostly, but also once you build up friends and associates on this site people will reward you with them.

Other top posters, correct me if you think I am wrong, but after a while of being on this site you figure out certain posters patterns, get to know people, etc. This in turn creates a certain camaraderie.

This site is very interesting and unlike any other forum I have been part of. You have a great opportunity to learn and get to know people who you otherwise couldn't just go up to and make friends with. I have met a lot of great people off of this site and consider the time and effort I have put into posting as much as I do to be handsomely rewarded.

In reply to manbearpig
11/4/10
everythingsucks:

So here's my question on Silver Banana's. Are they generally awarded only for very witty/funny posts? Or genuinely helpful posts as well?

As lame is this may sound, I thought I deserved a Silver Banana for some posts, but had no luck.

WSO is a fickle crowd, but in my experience Silver Banana distribution skews heavily toward helpful and less so toward humorous. As I've written a good deal of both, I can tell you that my advice related stuff has received a lot more potassium than my dick and fart jokes.

11/4/10

You also have to remember that silver banana's as well as shit is a function of credits. Some of us have a shit load of credits. Most have very little. I am less stringent in my bananas as well as shit since I have a lot of credits.

11/4/10

Also, a lot goes on that you never see. I have tons and tons of PM's where I have spent countless hours reviewing resumes, answering GTS questions, talking about schools, etc. After you help someone for a while they start to favor you when it comes to promoting comments or defending positions.

Just like in life there is a sort of gang mentality, etc.

In reply to manbearpig
11/4/10
everythingsucks:

So here's my question on Silver Banana's. Are they generally awarded only for very witty/funny posts? Or genuinely helpful posts as well?

As lame is this may sound, I thought I deserved a Silver Banana for some posts, but had no luck.

The majority of WSO Credits are held by a handful of active users. These folks generally distribute Silver Bananas to worthy posts as they encounter them. It is very likely that your helpful post was overlooked by those who give out bananas generously -- and that the person who you helped the most didn't have any WSO Credits to give you one. Keep giving good advice and I'm sure you'll manage to collect a number of SBs.

Trust me, I've frequently given what I deemed "SB" worthy posts only to be met with nothing or just a thank you! Keep sharing and the bananas will come!

CompBanker

In reply to TNA
11/4/10
Anthony .:

Also, a lot goes on that you never see. I have tons and tons of PM's where I have spent countless hours reviewing resumes, answering GTS questions, talking about schools, etc. After you help someone for a while they start to favor you when it comes to promoting comments or defending positions.

Just like in life there is a sort of gang mentality, etc.

Agreed! You should be able to give someone a SB for a helpful PM. Patrick? Just kidding -- that's just asking for abuse.

Anthony -- I'm still waiting for you to review my resume. What gives?

CompBanker

11/4/10

Is there any way to check which posts you got SB's and monkey shit for? I just checked my account, and I've been given two SBs and 2 piles of shit. No clue where they came from though.

-MBP

In reply to manbearpig
11/4/10
everythingsucks:

Is there any way to check which posts you got SB's and monkey shit for? I just checked my account, and I've been given two SBs and 2 piles of shit. No clue where they came from though.

Click your profile, then next to your banana count click "View". Any post with a "3" count next to it signifies that you were given a silver banana.

CompBanker

11/4/10

Hahah

Comp - real funny story. Probably will illustrate my level of loserdome. So I was walking around Philly with another active WSO poster ( I will save him from the humility by allowing him to remain anonymous) and we started talking about posters and their avatars. Your name came up and I was like "yeah, comp and his Patrick Bateman face". I was quickly corrected and told that it was from Equilibrium.

Needless to say I downloaded and watched the movie as soon as we were done walking around.

SB for you!

11/4/10

Cool, thanks CompBanker. I'd give you a SB for that if I had any credits. lol

-MBP

In reply to TNA
11/4/10
Anthony .:

Hahah

Comp - real funny story. Probably will illustrate my level of loserdome. So I was walking around Philly with another active WSO poster ( I will save him from the humility by allowing him to remain anonymous) and we started talking about posters and their avatars. Your name came up and I was like "yeah, comp and his Patrick Bateman face". I was quickly corrected and told that it was from Equilibrium.

Needless to say I downloaded and watched the movie as soon as we were done walking around.

SB for you!

Haha, I'm very glad you were corrected. That absolutely is not Patrick Bateman -- its John Preston. Too be honest, I'm not that big a fan of American Psycho (after having worked as a banker), Equilibrium is a much better movie.

CompBanker

In reply to CompBanker
11/4/10

Totally agree, Equilibrium was pretty badass.

-MBP

11/4/10

Matrix stole a ton from Equilibrium. The fight scenes, the outfits, the emotionless faces, so much. Felt like I was watching an early run of the movie.

Great concept though. The puppy was cute also.

In reply to TNA
11/4/10
Anthony .:

There is an interesting dynamic. Silver Bananas come from helpful posts mostly, but also once you build up friends and associates on this site people will reward you with them.

Other top posters, correct me if you think I am wrong, but after a while of being on this site you figure out certain posters patterns, get to know people, etc. This in turn creates a certain camaraderie.

This site is very interesting and unlike any other forum I have been part of. You have a great opportunity to learn and get to know people who you otherwise couldn't just go up to and make friends with. I have met a lot of great people off of this site and consider the time and effort I have put into posting as much as I do to be handsomely rewarded.

Agreed.

Anyone else notice how much this site mimics mimics the real world. A few months ago when SB liquidity was almost non-existent, I could have written a fucking Pulitzer Prize winning finance book on this site and not scored a SB. Today I have gotten SB for one line posts that probably deserve monkey shit for their terseness (Not that I'm complaining since I see it as making up for when liquidity was bad). It just goes to show that liquidity has created some mild inflation and it will probably be another 6-12 months before inflation subsides.

I also agree that I focus on SB for quality and Monkey Shit for ass holes--I think its probably a 66-33 split between SB and MS. I also like giving it for humor,but it needs to be witty or creatively crude.

Also, while there is clearly a group of top posters, I think that there are a great deal of posters that give amazingly detailed descriptions and answers to what they do/how it is done and the core group either uses that information or directs posters to the appropriate forum. You never know when a poster with only 100 points will write 12 paragraphs on what it is like to work on a EM trading desk, ect.

"Greed, in all of its forms; greed for life, for money, for love, for knowledge has marked the upward surge of mankind. And greed, you mark my words, will not only save Teldar Paper, but that other malfunctioning corporation called the USA."

11/4/10

"Foolish names and foolish faces often appear in public places." Liar's Poker was one of the first finance books I ever read and this quote will stay with me for the rest of my life.

Also Compbanker, Equilibrium was absolutely amazing. Hell, the musical score alone was worth watching the movie. I have a a theory about the movie and I wonder if you would agree. I believe that the Head Cleric who got killed at the end was a sense offender and he was just his power for control--When he quotes , "be careful Preston your treading on my dreams" Also, right at the end when he says "Wait, I'm alive, I feel, now that you know it can you really take it, is it really worth the price?"

"Greed, in all of its forms; greed for life, for money, for love, for knowledge has marked the upward surge of mankind. And greed, you mark my words, will not only save Teldar Paper, but that other malfunctioning corporation called the USA."

In reply to CompBanker
11/4/10
CompBanker:
Anthony .:

Hahah

Comp - real funny story. Probably will illustrate my level of loserdome. So I was walking around Philly with another active WSO poster ( I will save him from the humility by allowing him to remain anonymous) and we started talking about posters and their avatars. Your name came up and I was like "yeah, comp and his Patrick Bateman face". I was quickly corrected and told that it was from Equilibrium.

Needless to say I downloaded and watched the movie as soon as we were done walking around.

SB for you!

Haha, I'm very glad you were corrected. That absolutely is not Patrick Bateman -- its John Preston. Too be honest, I'm not that big a fan of American Psycho (after having worked as a banker), Equilibrium is a much better movie.

Holy shit, dude. I never put that together; I always assumed it was another Patrick Bateman photo. Equilibrium was such a great movie, and should be required viewing. Well done, sir.

11/4/10

Overall, I think the SB and Monkey shit experiment has worked, even though when we first introduced it we had some abuse...and a few users were offended when they offered solid advice and still had shit thrown at them.

Also, I like the fact that a Silver Banana is worth 3 banana points (and shit only soils 1 banana) so that the users with the best posts can accelerate their evolution. For example, out of Anthony's 4,600 Bananas (that is actually very impressive), over 1,000 came from Silver Bananas.

As far as inflation, I would expect that to continue, at least in the near term. Every day we inject 50 more WSO Credits into the system (whether others actually buy WSO Credits or not) to a user that gives a useful comment and/or thread.

In reply to Edmundo Braverman
11/4/10
Edmundo Braverman:
Anthony .:

Well there are only 2 senior Neanderthals

BOOYAH

LMAO.

Get a room you two

11/4/10

Patrick are you going to inflate the WSO economy like the fed by giving us all more WSO credits?

"Oh the ladies ever tell you that you look like a fucking optical illusion" - Frank Slaughtery 25th Hour.

In reply to trade4size
11/4/10
trade4size:

Patrick are you going to inflate the WSO economy like the fed by giving us all more WSO credits?

Why don't you spend the 24 you've already got before asking for more!

For those that don't know, you can see how many credits everyone has by going to "Top WSO Users" on the right, clicking "more", and then filtering by Credits rather than Bananas.

CompBanker

11/4/10
In reply to CompBanker
11/4/10
CompBanker:
trade4size:

Patrick are you going to inflate the WSO economy like the fed by giving us all more WSO credits?

Why don't you spend the 24 you've already got before asking for more!

For those that don't know, you can see how many credits everyone has by going to "Top WSO Users" on the right, clicking "more", and then filtering by Credits rather than Bananas.

He wasn't asking for more. He was making a finance joke.

"Greed, in all of its forms; greed for life, for money, for love, for knowledge has marked the upward surge of mankind. And greed, you mark my words, will not only save Teldar Paper, but that other malfunctioning corporation called the USA."

In reply to manbearpig
11/5/10
everythingsucks:

So here's my question on Silver Banana's. Are they generally awarded only for very witty/funny posts? Or genuinely helpful posts as well?

As lame is this may sound, I thought I deserved a Silver Banana for some posts, but had no luck.

SB for your unnoticed efforts!

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