Hey guys, Is there a prestige that comes with certain development shops? I notice certain company names make people's eyes light up, like Hines, Jamestown, TCR which is mostly because of the renowned projects they have worked on. However, is it safe to say that, like going to a top school, working at a top development firm holds a level of prestige? The only reason I'm asking is that I know Top MBA programs have feeder companies. Like tech, private equity, or consulting firms, Google, Blackstone, McKinsey, Etc. Is there anything like feeder companies in development that top MBA programs like?
27 Jan 2020
Choosing between a supply chain internship with SpaceX and a business analyst internship with Amazon. Ultimate goal is to move into consulting full time with an MBB firm, though I'm also interested in which internship would set me up for the best opportunities even if I can't land an MBB offer. My initial thoughts are that a business analyst role may be more relevant to consulting but that SpaceX may stand out more on a resume. Let me know your thoughts, any insights would be appreciated!
09 Apr 2020
Just saw on BCG's website that their AD consultant application deadline is delayed indefinitely . Also heard that some interview invites were put on hold until further notice. Does this mean that they are no longer reviewing applications or just simply giving candidates more time to apply? Saw on fishbowl that BCG might be doing worse compared to Bain and McKinsey - is there any truth to this?
02 Jun 2020
Hey all, I'm considering two MBB offers for same location in Europe. Have been working in LA for past 2 years in tech startups after college. Also considering an MBA in future probably back in US. Would like to keep my options open but have a keen interest in VCs and FAANG (internal strategy or PM) exit opps. The offers are: 1. Associate Consultant at Bain - generalist 2. Business Analyst within Mckinsey's Digital practice area - approximately half of cases are digital related and half from the generalist project pool. I am told you learn the same toolkit as generalist BAs with the same
22 Feb 2020
I am curious if anyone can comment on what comp/culturelifestlye and hours are like at Tier2 consulting firms(ATK,OW,Deliotte S&O, Strategy&.etc) post mba or past the 2-3 year entry level all the way up to partner level. Do the hours/pay etc equal around the same amount at MBB firms for engagment mangers and beyond?
01 Jun 2020
Hi all, I'm an undergrad senior. I got an offer from one of the MBBs, but I don't know if I should take it as I'm worried that I'm actually not qualified and I'll be counseled out in the up-or-out system. The company that extended the offer is definitely by far my dream company, not just due to prestige but also because they're very strong in the specific industry/capability I'm interested in. However, I'm also a pretty introverted/academic person and I found the networking and recruitment process very exhausting. I interned at a tier 2 strategy consulting firm this summer and received very
24 Oct 2019
Since we already have a thread on least favorite parts, also curious what the best parts are! Ideally pick something that might surprise/intrigue/engage us (ex: please don't talk about exit opps since everyone already knows that part).
02 Dec 2019
Need help deciding. Really liked the people at both offices and don't yet have any specific industry niche or exact exit opp in mind. Are there any notable differences between the two in terms of exit or prestige or MBA schools????
21 Aug 2019
I'm working at BCG this summer and really like the firm but I want to recruit for McK FT because I'm interested in public sector work and they have an office in a city I want to live in that BCG doesn't. I honestly didn't anticipate getting an offer at BCG given my GPA being subpar (
23 Apr 2020
Hello, I'm looking to apply for an internship to MBB for summer 2021 as a junior. I go to Penn and am unsure when the deadlines are? I see McKinsey is late August/Sept, but particularly for Bain, I can't find it. There was one thing I looked at that said deadlines for Bain is the 12th for Dartmouth, which made me worry has Penn's deadline already passed? Thanks.
10 Jul 2020
I am a rising junior in undergrad transferring out of a non-target school (T40), and I wanted to see what the best school of the following was best for MBB recruiting: * Vanderbilt CAS - Economics * CMU Tepper * Georgetown McDonough * NYU Stern * USC Marshall * Notre Dame Mendoza Based in East Coast (NY), but would like to know your thoughts on local recruiting for each of the schools as well. Thanks for the help!
18 May 2020
Will be somewhat lengthy post but as the title suggests the topic is about English speaking offices throughout Europe. and I just want to emphasize... this is not a rant :) I've done a lot of reading here and over the internet and I am yet to have a clear picture of how things really work for particular offices. Just to be clear we are talking about pre-MBA positions (as of course the higher you go, the less of a problem the language barrier becomes). I am trying to establish what is the true English only office (apart from London) and how much are you actually disadvantaged (let's say
01 May 2020
Current sophomore at Stern here. I know that Stern is considered a heavy target for Investment Banking but I was wondering if that label applied to MBB recruiting as well. I tried looking online, but generally there isn't as much information for MBB target schools as there is for banking. Thanks!
05 Feb 2020
Hi! I'm in a bit of a dilemma and hope you guys can help - I know there are various threads on this but my context is slightly different. I'm a European who has been offered a place in LBS MFA and Oxford MFE (Financial Economics). I have also secured a finance internship for Summer 2021 that would offer a full conversion if successful. However, as I do not have a lot of prior experience, I'm not sure how well I will do in my internship, nor enjoy it. If I do not do well, I hope to pursue consultancy, which I think may be a better personality fit as of now. My dilemma is as follows: 1. LBS
09 May 2020
Hi all, Looking for your opinions re: two offers, one at MBB and one at a tech company. MBB would be at one of the major offices (SF/Chicago/Boston/NYC), tech in the Bay Area. Coming out of undergrad, so the consulting gig is the standard BA/AC/A, tech is in a data science capacity. Tech comp is slightly higher than post-MBA roles at MBB, i.e roughly double the undergrad consulting offer. Some of that gets eaten by taxes of course, plus lack of MBA sponsorship if I were to go down that route (unlikely conditional on taking the tech offer). The company is post-IPO, so the equity component of
13 Nov 2019
I have been accepted to a top 10 MBA program in Chicago. Looking to pivot into consulting from Oil and Gas. My family is predominantly from Denver, so I would like to try to get into a MBB office in Denver. Was curious what typed of industry the Denver offices are focused on, as well as how difficult it will be to get into the denver offices vs others. I can't find much information on people who have recruited into these two offices. I believe Deloitte is strong in denver, so may focus on Tier 2 depending on how difficult it is to get into MBB Denver. Thanks!
21 Mar 2020
Hey guys, So I'm slated to graduate May 2022, but if COVID makes my school go online, I might take a semester off and graduate December 2022 instead. How will this impact recruiting for consulting? Normally I would do Junior year internship summer 2021 and full time starting summer 2022. But if I graduate in December 2022, when will I do my internship/start full time? Will I do internship summer 2022 and start full time after I graduate (like I would if I'm graduating in 2023)? (I'm at a Target school shooting for MBB, T2, and some Econ consulting firms)
30 Jun 2020
As the title states, how can one be fast-tracked in MBB? Would appreciate if anyone can share their experience or observation. Background: Recently got an offer from MBB. Am an experienced hire from the banking industry. Hoping to be fast-tracked through the system - didn't get the level I was expecting.
05 Mar 2020
An MBB intern once told me that she often sees consultants pulling numbers out of thin airs to support their arguments. This got me thinking, do consultants actually believe the recommendations they give to clients?
08 May 2020
Weighing a couple of options for a first job out of school. As of now I have a merchant banking offer at a middle market firm (read: Piper Jeffery, Rothschild) and also have a final round with an MBB. If I get MBB, which would be in a less desirable city, so which would be a better career option if I'm interested in working in PE (maybe) or being c-suite at a middle market company down the road? Also I like the idea of going to B-school and I know MBB kill in terms of placement, but I'm not sure if I should take a first job just for that if I find the other work more interesting. Really like
09 Oct 2019
Hi everyone, Having received offers for both LBS MiM and INSEAD MiM, I am having a hard time deciding between the two programmes. I want to study a Master in Management as a stepping stone toward a career in Management Consulting. Post MiM, I want to land a graduate job at MBBs in Paris. Which programme do you think is the best to achieve my career goals? I am tempted to think that INSEAD will place better in Management Consulting, especially in Paris. However, I am wondering whether MBBs will actually recruit students from the Master in Management, which is a brand new programme at INSEAD
02 Apr 2020
So I ran into a pretty dumb issue that I'm worried will affect an MBB offer. Over Christmas break a few months ago I was hiking in a state wildlife area with a friend and we were using an outdated map from the internet, we ran into a park ranger and he told us that we had wandered into a wildlife sanctuary area and that he has to write us tickets for trespassing. I just paid the ticket online and didn't really think much of it, but it is still an actual misdemeanor (even though it's the lowest level of misdemeanor, but still more severe than a traffic violation) so I'm still going to have to
29 Apr 2020
I'm doing a virtual internship at an MBB this summer and have received a FT offer, like all other MBB interns. Though I want to work at my firm after graduation, I am currently interning in a city that I do NOT want to live in (the FT offer is also for this city). Should I chat with the recruiter about potentially transferring offices sooner rather than later, or should I wait for the internship to conclude? Thanks!
26 May 2020
Hi all! I'm (hopefully) going to be starting at an MBB in the fall. I'm aware they have up or out policies, but essentially wanted to clarify the degree to which my job will be stable/unstable, especially in the midst of the current health and economic crisis. Could someone with relevant experience let me know: 1. What proportion of a starting BA class (coming out of undergrad) you would estimate are let go within the first 6 mos, 9 mos, 12 mos, and 18 mos? This is assuming no crazy misconduct. For example, 'they typically cut the bottom 10% of performers at 9 mos.'. 2. I'm also specifically
10 Apr 2020
Question: How likely is it to... 1. Work in Big 4 Advisory (Management Consulting in Operations) post-MBA for 2-3 years 2. Pivot to a Strategy Consulting role at MBB? Thanks for your input.
15 Sep 2019
Hi, I'll be interning at an MBB firm this summer and I'm thinking about working in their PE practice. I'm wondering what things MBB firms will actually do for PE firms. I'm especially curious because I know that PE professionals are usually very smart and often have MBAs and significant business experience, I'm therefore a bit confused why they'd routinely use consultants who aren't necessarily smarter then them. Do PE firms hire consultants because the work that they are selling them is "too low value" for the PE firms to want to do it themselves, or do MBB firms actually offer stronger
23 Feb 2020
Got a first round with Kaiser Associates, and I haven't been able to find much about the firm through the search feature on this site. Would love any info in terms of reputation, b-school placement and exit opps. Am I right to put Kaiser in the same category as say Marakon / Mars & Co? All thoughts welcome.
22 Sep 2019
How impactful is networking outside of actually learning about the firms and their practices? I can see how knowing about firms will let you answer why consulting and why X firm much better, but I am curious if there are serious benefits outside of that and direct referrals. I am thinking about this from a target school perspective since for a non-target networking is clearly essential. Is more senior level networking better than associate/1-2 year experience networking? Thanks in advance.
03 Jul 2020
Hey chimps, It's been nearly 2 years for me in MBB based in Dubai and have been thinking more and more about exiting - I feel seriously burned out (hours in the region are insane - finishing at midnight is considered a good project), had to work 20% of weekends this year and really sick of all travel. On top with C-19/Oil price crash it seems promotion might be not be as safe as it seemed 6m ago. I've been reading more and more about the UAE Sovereign Wealth Funds (e.g. ADIA, Mubadala, ICD), and the more I learn the more interested I am in joining their PE arm. I know it's not the most
19 May 2020
Hi, I am 19 years old, starting a BSc in Finance at a semi-target, and looking to network with recruiters from MBB firms. As the notion of networking is relatively new for me, do you have any recommendations as to how I should approach this? Which form of communication is optimal (LinkedIn, e-mails, and etc.)? Which questions should I ask in order to stand out? Most importantly, how can I utilise networking now in order to secure an internship in the near future (1-2 years)?
28 May 2020
Hi! I have admits in Georgetown McDonough in their Master's in Management program and in Master's in Business Entrepreneurship and Technology by Waterloo. Both are 1 year long courses. I'm aiming at MBB for joining as an Analyst/Associate consultant. Can someone from the US/Canada help me choose the course, based on uni reputation, network, and visa hurdles I may face due to the pandemic?
26 May 2020
Wanted to gauge the opinions here: Currently a 2nd year analyst at a T2 firm (think OW, Deloitte, Kearney etc.) and have a very solid resume with multiple high-profile internships and with a good GPA (but not from a target school). I've been trying to network into McKinsey for some time now and finally secured a referral; but from an Analyst-level person. The general consensus has always appeared that you need a referral from a high-level employee to make a dent here. Is this doable? I know the current environment is also not great but I've been told McKinsey is still doing a lot of work and
04 May 2020
What are my chances at MBB: Non/Semi-target top 10 Public University( 1 of the big 3 recruits) GPA: 3.8 Major: Electrical Engineering Major 4 Internships, 3 in engineering, 1 advisory; 1 Startup, F100 tech company, F500 tech company, Big4 Advisory. URM: Hispanic on paper The biggest problem is breaking into the other 2 that don't recruit at my school. Also unsure how the timeline works. I graduate in December( took 4 1/2 to graduate) so do all big 3 only extend FT offers starting Fall or is there a chance to get into the recruiting cycle and get started spring. Thanks in advance
04 May 2020
Hello - Anyone is looking to practice cases live (i.e. Skype) - I have solved 5 cases live so far and 19 by myself. - I have fully read Case In Point Intermediate level here, PhD in engineering, I live in an EST time zone. I have industry experience. Prefer Advanced Degree candidates who are applying to start a full time position in 2021. Please let me know and I can share my contact info privately.
25 Mar 2020
Q: For those of you who were rejected by MBB for the internship recruiting cycle but received offers for FT, how'd you do it? What went better the second time around? What did you do differently leading up to FT recruiting? (ex. reflection you did after the internship recruiting cycle, networking, case prep, etc.). Would love to hear your story. Context: I'm an undergrad student at a target school with a top 10% GPA (satisfying what the firms are looking for academically) and strong ECs. I got interviews with BCG and Bain (not McK), but was rejected by BCG after the final round and rejected by
04 Mar 2020
I interned at a non-MBB firm this past summer. Had a pretty swell time and got a return but rerecruited because I wanted better opportunities. MBB is objectively better across all domains including salary, exit opps, paying for grad school, etc, all clout and bullshit aside. Anyway, I didn't get MBB and signed full-time with the same firm. I thought the feeling of failure would go away but it hasn't in 2+ months. Now I'm committed to getting out of this firm as quickly as possible whether it's another consulting role or something entirely outside. Any advice or similar experiences from people
25 Nov 2019
Problem / Question Concerned that my natural verbosity, poor working memory, and tendency to stray from original structure in cases are insurmountable obstacles to being a consultant. Do you know of people who overcame tendency to be wordy and unstructured in verbal communication to secure MBB role after lots of practice? ####Background - Preparing for MBB interviews in one month - Previous experience: Went thru undergrad recruiting a few years ago with only one case under my belt. Dinged first round at all three. - Preparation thus far: I've run 10 cases with current MBBers in past
15 Jan 2020
Has anyone had experience, or is currently applying to 2020 MBB summer internships in Asia, particularly Hong Kong, or Singapore from US schools? I'm also okay with other cities/countries, such as Taiwan and China. It seems most recruiting information is targeted towards local universities. Where should I start if I'm a rising junior in the US?
08 Sep 2019
Hey folks, first post so be chill with the excrement slinging if possible. I recently applied, very late in the process, to Mck for their summer internship scheme. It was a total impulse, but I crushed the PST and first interview and felt like I was on top of the world getting that far without any real prep. Then it came to the final round, and I sat in front of the partner of the office I applied and I shat all over it. I walked out of that interview feeling like I'd embarrassed myself by wasting everyone's time. I got nervous of the seniority, then screwed up the basic multiplication, didn't
30 Aug 2019
How should I go about picking office locations? Please help! A little bit about me: - I'm a senior in the US at an ivy league target school - I have a background in biotech and would like to be staffed on projects in industries like healthcare systems, PE and tech in the future - I know that even though they say location doesn't matter in terms of getting selected, I wanna apply to a slightly less competitive office; I'm very close to New York, but I'm scared to apply there because competition is fierce and I think NJ office has pretty much the same things; similarly, I'm also scared to apply
28 Aug 2019