GMAT: 760 overall I'm a New York born and raised white guy that went to a liberal arts college and played top 20 division I lacrosse (earning a 3.4 GPA). My international family background made me become fascinated by Latam. After graduation, I moved to Chile (without fully speaking Spanish and knowing absolutely no one) to start a position as an intern at a boutique M&A-focused investment bank based here in Chile. My company's partners took a risk in giving me an opportunity to intern, but after 2 months they saw my learning curve progression and work ethic and they offered me a full-time
09 Mar 2021
Hi all! My name is and I've to the and The W for . A couple of other and I are interested in competing in However, we are in need of an advisor, as one is required for each team. We are all very hard workers and love to learn. If anyone would be interested please let me know! It wouldn't take much time from you, but we would be extremely grateful!!! Thank you for taking the time to read this. Also, if you know anyone who has investing experience, please let me or them know! It means a lot!Be
27 Aug 2021
I got into Wharton for undergrad and I cannot afford to go. Even though it's one of the best schools out there, 320k is simply too much money. My question is, are there any target schools outside the US? I'm an international student so getting a job on Wall Street is already hard enough, but will going to a school outside the US make it almost impossible? Thank you for your time.
12 May 2020
I am currently in the process of applying to business school via the deferred admission route, and would like to give my $0.02 on the decision of whether to take the GMAT or GRE. When I first decided on whether to really focus on the GRE or GMAT for business school I looked at a bunch of posts on here as well as read articles online and saw (assumed) that the GMAT was pretty much the norm and - being strong in math - I opted to vigorously start studying for the GMAT. However, the plan to take the GMAT kinda blew up when (1) my in-person test got cancelled because of freaking COVID and (2) the
18 May 2020
2 years at tier 1 investment banking in NY (GS, MS, JPM, Moelis, Lazard, Evercore, PJT etc..) Now at tier 1 Hedge Fund in NY on the investing side (Think Citadel, Mill, P72, DK, Silverpoint, Anchorage, Renaissance etc) Non-target ~3.0+ GPA (I don't like sharing personal stories but as a brief background story...my mother passed away freshman year who was single mother, and I had to support my younger brother financially by working full time while going to school) Have not taken the GMAT but I will try to get 740+ Expecting good letters of rec from previous employers EC geared towards my
08 Sep 2021
Hello all, I'm new to this forum but thought I'd kick things off by trying to offer any advice I can on aspiring b-school applicants preparing for the fall 2016-17 application cycle. Background I did consulting at a boutique for several years, was dinged w no interview at HBS, and interviewed at Stanford and Wharton, ultimately getting dinged at Stanford as well. I'm Wharton bound this fall and can think back to this time last year when I was prepping for the GMAT and beginning to think about essay topics and recommendation writers. Some of these tips may be obvious but here's my $0.02 Work
14 Feb 2016
Wondering if this has ever happened? (barring something like a full ride to Wharton) When I was applying, H didn't even rank in my top 3 choices. I loved Stanford, Wharton and MIT, HBS just seemed very uptight and outdated to me. The other 3 schools are pushing innovation while HBS cases still seem to revolve around outdated companies. Understand H has the marginal prestige, but if I'm not trying to go to elite PE/VC, hate the case method, is there any point? My heart is saying that I will thrive more in the Wharton environment (the SF campus seems awesome, the flexible curriculum and no
16 Mar 2021
I'm lucky enough to have Full-Time Analyst offers for Investment Banking from both Evercore NYC M&A and PJT NYC M&A. I know I'm splitting hairs here but I'm just wondering if any of you have thoughts if one firm is slightly better positioned in terms of exit opportunities into PE mega-funds (Apollo, Blackstone, Warburg, KKR, TPG, Bain, Carlyle) as well as top MBA programs (Harvard, Stanford, Wharton)? Appreciate any insight!
23 Aug 2019
So this is an unprecedented year for admissions, and tonight wrapped up all my college decisions (note to any future applicants, do not talk about adding intellectual diversity to campus by being a southern white male conservative...). Please note that my goal is to work in either management consulting or IB out of undergrad. What do y'all rank my options/waitlist opportunities in order? Which options should I accept over Mendoza if they were to become available (besides Wharton obviously)? Acceptances: Notre Dame guaranteed Mendoza, U Mich (Ross decision is still pending), W&L, Clemson Honors
06 Apr 2021
Hey Guys, I am wondering if any of u know any particular tricks for getting accepting into a top MBA Program. Tricks, such as- when applying for upenn for undergraduate (but really want to go to Wharton), the school statistics have shown that students are far more likely to get accepted if they apply into the college, as something like econ major, and then apply to internally transfer to wharton. thats just one example Was wondering if anyone else had any tips or strategies for better chances of admissions to a top MBA program. Thanks,
02 Dec 2016
Was very lucky to have gotten into W. However, I was hoping for a H/S outcome. Should I re-apply? Basic info: ORM (770 GMAT, 3.4 from T10 school). WE: Startup (3 promotions in 3 years). First employee that helped build the company to 150 people. What would change if I re-apply? - Startup getting acquired for $$$$ since application - Another promotion (so 4 promotions in 4 years). Would be VP/Director level. My goals are entrepreneurship/working at a seed startup. I think H would provide marginal benefits to my career choices, but S is my dream school. Crazy to take another shot at these 2?
23 Mar 2021
This is my first time posting on any forum so I apologize in advance if I do anything wrong. I'm a second semester Freshman at the Wharton School and am not enjoying my experience thus far. I'm a pretty social guy, the kind of person people say "knows everyone," but am not enjoying Wharton/Penn and don't feel like it is a positive experience and is instead something I have been trying to make the best of. I don't feel genuinely connected to anyone here and I am not a part of any solid communities (I have applied to so many different Wharton clubs, and although I usually make the final rounds I
14 Mar 2014
Hello, I was recently admitted to the Huntsman Program but it will probably result in my taking out around 200k in student loans. I was wondering if this amount of loans for undergrad worth it? I've heard opposing opinions, and want to see if I'm going to make the right choice. Currently I am interested in taking a concentration in finance, healthcare management, or business analytics at the Wharton school. I'm not sure if I should go to graduate school and get my MBA, but I'm interested in careers in investment baking and hedge funds as well. I'm not sure what I specifically want to go into
07 Jan 2021
All - Some of you might be knee-deep in the MBA application process (currently Round 2), and others might be considering applying next year. I was in your shoes about a year ago and know how convoluted the process can be - it's about as "black box" as it gets. Before I get any further - a bit about myself. I'm currently a first-year student (RC) at HBS. I've been a WSO reader and poster for over 10+ years now, and the community single-handedly got me through investment banking recruiting as an undergrad, and private equity recruiting pre-MBA. A couple of HBS / GSB / Wharton friends and I
20 Feb 2018
Hip hop artist Clyde Kelly Atkins (stage name is Clyde Kelly) quit his job at McKinsey so he would have more free time to pursue his music career and obtain a Wharton MBA at the same time. [quote] "You don't have anyone in your life that you sort of see on a daily basis. It's very transient," Atkins says of the young consulting lifestyle. "It's fun. I was excited to be doing that at that point in my life. But I also missed that I used to freestyle everyday. I had friends I would come home to and we'd kick raps at the end of the day. It was way different coming back to a hotel at the end of the
25 May 2017
Hi, I wanted to hear some opinions on these three schools for banking recruitment. I'm probably looking to do 2 years in Investment Banking in NY in a BB and then come back to Brazil to work in PE Megafund. Current BG is 2 years in ER at a local bank and 2 years in PE/ Impact Investing The way I see it Wharton: Pros - More elite for PE job medium term, Stronger network in the region and stronger academics - Cons Living in Philly for two yeras Columbia: Pros- Being in NYC for networking with bankers 24/7, Strong recruitment in BB IBD (Goldman, Citi) Cons: Living in NYC is really expensive
30 Nov 2014
Hey, First post but been reading WSO religiously for the last month. I just graduated from a non-target (Pitt, Rutgers, Drexel, Delaware), with a degree in bioengineering. Stats are 3.4 GPA (honors), 760 GMAT. I got a job with Bloomberg as a Global Data Analyst, and have very solid EC's and am a URM. I'll be in Philadelphia for the next few years due to a family circumstance, but might have some freedom to leave for a year. I'm seeking to transition into equity research. I'm fairly sure I can't do that without a postgraduate degree. Would aiming for a MBA at Wharton be unrealistic? How about a
29 Aug 2017
All: I have been accepted into the Huntsman Program in International Studies and Business at Wharton at UPenn as well as two of HYP. I need advice on choosing between the two styles of education. At Huntsman, I can earn an SB in Economics and AB in International Studies. I also plan to complete the submatriculated AM in Mathematics during my four years. I might be interested in an MPhil and PhD in Economics or else business and law school later. With my interest in hedge funds (global macro, quant, and others), I think Huntsman presents an interesting opportunity. At HYP, I can earn an AB in
01 Apr 2018
Let me first state that I am part of the problem. Okay now that that's out of the way, I'll start my post. Recently I was accepted by an exclusive biz honors program at my state flagship. I was invited to attend at luncheon about the program and went ahead and attended. As I mingled with some of the students, I learned that each one of them had applied Early Decision (you're forced to attend if accepted) to Penn Wharton in hopes of investment banking. Here's some of the things the kids were saying "Yeah when I'm 25 I'll be making like 500 grand, living that crazy Wall Street lifestyle." "Make like 20 grand during my summer internship, but that's not that much." Various jokes about doing blow, etc.
10 Dec 2014
I went to Wharton and spoke to some of their MBAs about Entrepreneurship and thought you guys might like the video of it :-) 18 minutes and 40 seconds on the following four topics: Is quitting your job and starting a business right for you? How to come up with a good business idea How to make money without investing a lot into the business or putting your own money at risk (without raising outside money) The best advice I have for making the business a success faster Hope you like it!
21 Jan 2016
Hey WSO, Looking for some guidance from PE professionals on how to frame my background for PE recruiting Post-MBA, where I stack up against others and other general insights. My background is a bit unique, worked at a well-known boutique bank for two years earning a third year offer then went over to corp dev, fortune 1000, acquiring over 15 small-midsize companies and getting promoted to VP over my three years there. State school undergrad and now I'm heading to Wharton for my MBA. I'm trying to answer the following questions: I. How should I think about framing my deal experience for PE? II
22 Mar 2017
Hey monkeys, yesterday I watched the speech of David Rubinstein in the Wharton '14 MBA graduation ceremony. Here's the video: Great speech overall. Inside the post I created a summary of some parts of the speech that I found quite interesting. About making money: [quote]Here's what you need to know in 5 minutes or so in order to make a great deal of money: Perseverance is infinitely more important than brilliance or even a reasonably high degree of intelligence. Not taking no for an answer will yield far more financial rewards than will acquiescence to conventional wisdom. Do not give up your
25 Jun 2014
From all the research I've done, they really seem to be much more similar than they are different. Both very finance/wall street focused, recruited heavily, competitive, selective admissions. Other than the Ivy League tag, the financial aid (Penn definitely has better aid if you need it than NYU), and the 'lack of a campus' (even though Penn really does not have very much of a core campus aside from the main quad. It's pretty urban. Not as much as NYU obviously, but it's up there), there really seems to be no difference. But a lot of people on here praise Wharton and any chance of going there
06 Jul 2015
I got into Wharton for undergrad and I cannot afford to go. Even though it's one of the best schools out there, 320k is simply too much money. My question is, are there any target schools outside the US? I'm an international student so getting a job on Wall Street is already hard enough, but will going to a school outside the US make it almost impossible? Thank you for your time. If I were to attend Penn, I would be participating in a well-known dual-degree program between Wharton and the college of arts and sciences
12 May 2020
Hi all, I am fortunate enough to receive admissions offers and partial scholarships from both Columbia Business School and Wharton, but Columbia is giving about $50k more. (I would say the Wharton scholarship is on the smaller side). Given the following, where do you suggest I go? -My post-MBA goal is private debt / distressed debt investing. I have some relevant pre-MBA experience (think investment grade structured lending) but not LevFin/RX/M&A and would need as much help as I can get from career services and the school brand/network. -I don't mind living in Philly at all. High cost of
03 Apr 2016
The dream and desolation of the high finance world. Which path to the upper crust of middle-class suburban boredom do I take? Do I jump to the buy side? Do I stick it out in this simian hell of pitch books and Excel? Which is really right for me? A friendly look in the rearview at how simply the decision was. Nowadays, however, simply breaking in is hard enough. With the layers upon layers of applications piling up at HBS, Wharton, Booth and the like, an advanced degree doesn't guarantee what it once may have. The landscape is different, but the question remains: Sell side or buy side?
03 Oct 2010
http://whartonbeachweek2013.com/ Ok monkeys. If there are any current Wharton students or alums who have been to beach week, give us some JUICY details. It sounds like it's batshit crazy and fun, much moreso than any undergrad party I've been to. Was there a lot of hooking up? Were the Wharton people BALLING out of control in Miami?
31 May 2013
I'm currently entering my senior year of high school and preparing to start filling out some college applications. I have my eyes on a career in investment banking - either Houston (because I'm in Texas) or Wall Street. I've used a financial aid calculator for all the above schools, and they all come out to around $20,000 per year, so there is no actual difference in cost between the schools. I might apply ED (for those who don't know, Early Decision is a program through which if you are accepted, you are forced to attend that school. It boosts your chance of acceptance because schools know you will attend and they can build a solid class in advance) to Wharton. If I was accepted Wharton it would obviously be a dream come true. Some questions about Wharton:
08 Jun 2014
What course at what college would you have done if it was completely up to you? my top 3: 1) Economics at Harvard 2) Economics at Stanford 3) Business at Wharton
19 Jan 2012
Alright guys, serious post for once. I'm still here on campus right now (it's 5:14AM on the east coast), working on this ridiculous comp sci homework (being in this major really depends on who's teaching what class which semester) along with another ridiculous set of econ mumbojumbo. There are 2-3 older guys sitting at my table who have been here with me all night and they're Wharton MBA guys. Two of them are currently going off about how it's "so shitty it's 5AM" to which another responded "yeah man, this is ridiculous. Ive never had to stay this late my entire life." WHAT?! 5AM is absolutely child's play to some of us....especially when some of you will be going off to high paying jobs - it all requires hard work and sacrifice to some fucking extent.
24 Sep 2010
What does it take to get into a top school like HBS, Wharton, Stanford for an MBA from Canada? What credentials do you need as an undergraduate student? I'm trying to be realistic, and I know that from Canada, WS will be hard to break into. That's why I'm focusing more on building my credentials so I'll be a competitive applicant for the above mentioned schools. However, with that being said I'm obviously going to give WS a shot from the undergraduate level and I don't know what school to choose. I'm getting mixed opinions between McGill and Ivey. Some say no one knows Western in the U.S., and McGill will give you an edge if you want to work in the US, some are saying Ivey is much better and is way more recognized in the street?
23 May 2011
Hi all the amazing monkies. I am a HS senior and very settled to pursue a career within the IB industry, specifically FO because I had some exposure to M&A. (I decided to follow this path after very serious consideration. My family has some network within the financial services industry in Asia, and I was exposed to this at a young age.) Though still have a long way to go in order to excel in this field, I am very determined to presevere, and I also think my personality is a great fit for this industry.
29 Dec 2014
I have 2 years of work experience (currently in a F100 corporate strategy role) and was accepted to Wharton round 1 (dinged at H/S). I am considering switching jobs to a late stage tech startup and reapplying to business school two years from now. The main reasons are as follows:
26 Dec 2014
Typically when I look at the different areas of finance, the career progression usually involves an MBA from a top business school to move up the ranks. For example, for IB, I usually see something like IB -->PE-->MBA-->PE-->Greatness on these forums. If you go to Wharton undergrad, it's almost like getting an MBA. The classes overlap tremendously, except MBA's take more management courses than u-grads. Do you still need an MBA in the future for most finance managerial positions, if you go to Wharton ugrad?
06 Apr 2011
I just got accepted to Wharton and I wanted to get some outside opinions on if it makes sense for me to go. I am considering an MBA because I would like to get into an operationally-focused, turnaround PE firm and also would frankly just enjoy learning more about other aspects of business (not finance and accounting).
17 Dec 2014
I'm in NYC and am thinking about doing an EMBA. Please take the following as givens: 1. Accepted into Columbia and Wharton EMBA programs 2. Almost 30 years old, somewhat senior FO role at hedge fund 3. Solid pedigree (top-tier undergrad/excellent grades/decent career progression) 4. Employer footing the bill (but still opportunity cost of time) Here are my opinions: A. No direct benefit to immediate position/short-term career B. Would enjoy the program (I like this "stuff") C. Moderate improvement to pedigree D. Potentially significant benefit to medium-/long-term career (if I ever started a fund or whatever) Question for you monkeys: does it make sense for me to get the EMBA, and if so, is it worth the short travel to Wharton over Columbia?
07 Jul 2011
Just wanted to share these with everyone. If they have been posted before, I apologize for the re-post. Pretty interesting stuff in my opinion, only drawback is the length of each.
29 Nov 2012
As a rising senior who is considering Wharton Undergrad I have a couple q's. I started a business in HS and am very interested in business, but more specifically entrepreneurship and marketing, NOT the finance side. The option I have to choose between then is Wharton w/concentration in Entrepreneurship/Marketing/Management (I don't know specifically yet) vs. a liberal arts education and probably majoring in economics @ Princeton or Harvard/Stanford. Theoretical economics doesn't really interest me either, and I was thinking that at Wharton I might enjoy what I am learning about more because it would be related to business.
27 Aug 2011
Background Undergrad School: Liberal arts college (top 20 - think Bates, Kenyon, Wesleyan) Undergrad Major: Philosophy GPA: 3.8+ Grad School: One of the top 10 universities in Canada (1st year in a 2-year master's program) Grad GPA: 4.0 Race/Ethnicity: Asian (Indian - international student) GMAT Haven't taken it yet but practice scores have been in the 740 range (+/- 10-20 points). Let's assume for the sake of argument that my score is at least 730. Work Experience Haven't had a formal internship yet but held summer research positions all four years of undergrad. Won over $15k+ in research
04 Jul 2021
I'm looking into a program as a visiting student to an ivy league school. I've chosen UPenn, but my understanding is that it is available at other ivys too. Through LPS, there is an non degree seeking undergraduate studies enrollment program. You get to take courses at Penn for a semester or two. There is no financial aid. Will a visiting student gain access to all the resources that regular student have, besides Wharton classes which are not open to visiting students. I could however, use career services. I was thinking about studying abroad in London, which cost about 20,000 for a semester while a semester at Penn cost 27,000 dollars. Do you guys think it is worth it? Which would you recommend? Maybe Harvard instead? I want to get my Mrs. Degree in college, and Penn seems like a good place to look!
23 Jan 2010
Hi, I am a senior in high school and have recently been accepted to Columbia, Cornell, and Dartmouth. I am interested in investment banking/trading/other wall street careers (early, I know) and was wondering which of the 3 schools would be best for my goals. How is finance recruiting at each of these schools? I will be in SEAS at Columbia as well as Cornell. I realize it is foolish to base my decision on the quality of I-banking recruitment, so I am definitely considering other factors as well. I just want to get as much information as possible before making a big a decision as this. Thanks
04 Apr 2011
Hey, Is a Mfin from MIT then a top MBA from H/S/W/C/C worth it? Let say you will be 27 when applying to an MBA, 2 Masters (one mfin), 2 years ib/consulting experiences (one pre MFIN one post MFIN)? I GUESS you will be promoted to associated when you already have an mfin... but let say you got bored of s&t, want to do ibd/pe/hf... Then will the MBA bring extra value? Or should I skip the Mfin and work one more year and apply for MBA directly?
07 Mar 2011
I have a 4.0 GPA from UNCG and I can graduate with a BS in Economics this December. I could extend my graduation date by a semester and graduate with disciplinary honors, international honors, a global studies minor, and a year's worth of Chinese; is it worth it? I have volunteer experience working with disabled children, immigrant children, and I volunteered to help train police trainees. I have been part of the fencing club, and Japanese club at my school and it's not too late to join or establish another club; should I? I have 1 semester abroad in Japan. I have the general awards for my GPA, and I am part of beta gamma sigma.
09 Jun 2014