Is it actually possible to get an 800 on the GMAT?
I've never actually met or even heard of anyone getting a perfect GMAT whereas it seems pretty common on SAT and GRE. Is that b/c its just that difficult or because the creators of the test won't let you? i.e. if you got all 41 V and 37 match questions right they would just give you a 790 or something?
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Yes it is possible. mba.com should have the stats - I guess 50-100 people manage a perfect score every year.
I have seen an 800 score report from a well-known coach, though this was some years ago. Looked legit to me... though in the interest of delivering a complete report, I should say that his score page also showed several slightly lower scores that he'd gotten on previous iterations. In other words, this guy didn't walk in and get the 800 on his first or second go-round.
So yes, I believe it's possible.
I can't remember the site, but there's a guy who got an 800 twice in a year and was subsequently barred by the GMAC from testing again since they saw his site and realized he was doing it just to tout his services. They didn't want the score of someone who was so clearly defying the system.
It is possible, just quite rare.
Is it shawn berry?
http://www.perfectgmat.com/
Please find the site! I rather pay 2g's to him and score 700 + than paying Kaplan or other prep classes.
Someone do an IP check. After seven GMAT posts, this has to be Bankerella's alter ego. :D
Are you trying to say that you're sick of Earth and need a more challenging planet?
I wouldn't mind that every now and then. All these girls are just starting to bore me.
I think about 30-50 people get it each year. You actually don't have to get every single question right, but yeah, it's insanely difficult, much moreso than perfect SAT, GRE, or even LSAT (although the last is pretty hard as well).
How much does it actually help vs say 770/780 ? Or is it just a marquee issue?
Robert McNamara got an 800 on his GMAT
I find that hard to believe considering that the GMAT didn't exist back in 1939 when McNamara graduated from HBS. Unless of course he took it decades afterwards in order to land that sweet consulting job.
No, but Elliot Spitzer did ace the LSAT.
I don't know much about the LSAT but for HLS 2014 JDs the 25%-75%ile band is 171-176...seems insane. It must be a little easier than the GMAT? Or are they really just that good?
Is the LSAT still paper based? I guess that makes a big difference, because in GMAT you always have to balance the "is this question worth the time" where on a paper based you can skip it and come back later. That to me would seem to account for many more perfect scores on the LSAT.
I think the LSAT is harder for most people. In my opinion, it's a better measure of raw intelligence and logical abilities than the GMAT. There are those, however, who just suck at math but are awesome at verbal reasoning. So for those types, the LSAT will be easier.
Yes, HLS numbers are pretty strong. Median gpa is 3.88, and median lsat is 173. For Yale law, the median gpa is 3.92.
they say about 50-100 (as quoted earlier) get 800 in any given test season.
Once you score 800, you are barred from taking the GMAT for 5 years.
What purpose would there be in taking it again after you've received a perfect score? It costs money, that sounds pretty illogical.
I think his point was to show it wasn't a fluke and that he has discovered a proprietary method for 'cracking' the GMAT. Doing it more than once would show potential customers that it's legit and worth the money. Even if he only got 1 customer from 'proving' his method by retaking the test, $10,000 > $250.
The GMAT is beatable in the sense you can breakdown the questions and learn what approach is best for answering each one and as someone stated, verbal sections can be easy if you learn the rules to grammar. In my opinion the hardest part about the GMAT is the time constraint (obviously), but if you drill the problems enough and learn to recognize the patterns and 'tricks' of the test you can solve the problems with relative ease. And I know I sounds as though I am overstating how easy it is, but I'm not. I'm simply saying it's beatable if you spend enough time learning the rules and different approaches. The caveat there is most people have a finite amount of time that they can (or will) put into the test.
I'm in a GMAT class right now and it's pretty insane to see the instructor handle some of the problems. Just seeing the question and the possible answer choices can point you in the right direction and give you a pretty accurate guess as to what the answer could be should you have to guess. Again, he's intimately familiar with the test, so keep that in mind.
Anyways, the guy selling his services via that website is probably teaching certain techniques/approaches that allow his students to quickly recognize what they have to do with the question, which gives them more time to execute and get the problem right...plus he's probably just super smart.
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Ya, but if you have to ask you can't afford it.
Much easier for a perfect score on say, the SAT, as you get quite a bit of leeway in terms of how many wrong answers. Not to mention the GMAT is just a harder test overall.
Wait is this guy for real? $10k to coach you on the gmat?!?!?! I can get my entire app reviewed by like 4 different consultants for that. Has anyone here actually used him?
Disregard my comment..10g's too much...f that.
Yeh 2K might be worth it but 10k?!!?!?! Crazy shit. He is def in the bay area though as all his references are from there.
10k worth it if I can pay him back in 10yrs, with 0% interest.
For what it's worth, I got every question correct on the verbal section and did not get a perfect on that section.
How the hell would you know if you got every question correct? Clearly you made a careless error along the way.
Haha. I actually just read through the site and the guy outlines that he teaches you how to figure out the question faster than you otherwise would, thus giving you more time to complete everything. May sound gimmicky but since I started studying a few weeks back, I can see how certain methods would be very helpful.
As far as cost, that will always be subjective. $10k is nothing in the life of the average HBS grad going (back) into finance. This program is similar to others in that you aren't buying a guarantee, you are just paying to mitigate your downside and lower your risk. With that said, I would have a very hard time dropping that amount of money but if I had a trust fund or dad would pay for, why not?
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What is considered a lowish quant score for MBB recruiting?
[quote=someusername]What is considered a lowish quant score for MBB recruiting? M7 admissions, lower than 80% is considered low for quant. I imagine it's the same for MBB recruiting.
Thanks Brady. Does being an engineer help in overcoming a 70%ile quant? I've not given the GMAT yet, but seems like you need a 49+ to cross the 80%ile these days. sigh.
8 fundred is spectacular, but lsat is harder
LSAT is much harder. The critical reasoning and reading comp on the GMAT is a joke compared to what you'll see on the LSAT. The math on the GMAT is 9th grade level. Overall the LSAT is significantly harder. I got a 740 on the GMAT, which is like 97%, but barely cracked 160 on the LSAT.
That split surprises me for some reason. Do you mind sharing your Q-V breakdown and similar for LSAT?
I took the GMAT and prepped pretty hard for the LSAT. I thought tough LSAT questions were more difficult than tough GMAT questions, but I would also guess that there are more (as a percentage of tests taken) 180's than 800's.
Because the LSAT is on paper, everyone gets the same mix of easy, medium, and hard questions. However, GMAT's CAT feature gives the best test takers more opportunities to screw up.
For high scorers, marginal points on the LSAT are worth much more than marginal points on the GMAT, so naturally high scoring LSAT takers have more incentive to prep for perfection than naturally high scoring GMAT takers.
The LSAT is taken almost entirely by native English speakers, whereas the GMAT has a more international mix. A lot of the people who can ace the quantitative section of the GMAT will trip on the V section.
My split was Q 50 V 41
48Q was 82 quant when i posted, now it is 78 percent :
As someone who got a retarded split (42Q / 49V / 740) on the GMAT, I wish I could give the LSAT a go. It seems like a much more interesting test.
It's possible, but it basically has to be your life. Professional GMAT instuctors and Profs are typically among the ranks who actually pull it off. I would never make this a goal, or else you're going to drive yourself crazy. There's very little differentiation between anything above a 750.
It can be done, you need to just be naturally good at these kind of tests tough or just a fucking work horse, I got v. close to 800 with minimal work (less than 50 hours using only kaplan book and no tutor)
There's an 800 post on GMATClub.com w/ an official score report from the GMAC posted... it's pretty awesome. They basically said the guy can't take it again because he crushed it and it made them look stupid.
Anyone here get or know someone who got an 800 on GMAT? (Originally Posted: 06/15/2007)
Just wondering because I've seen quite a few people with 750+, which is a milestone in itself, but haven't seen anyone get an 800.
I'm sure if you go through students that are in Harvard, Yale, Princeton, or Stanford, some may have an 800 GMAT.
dixm....um....GMAT is for the MBA..that means graduate business school. please get a clue dude.
yes. it doesnt help as much as you think.
I think anything above 750 is unnecesary. It is like having $2 billion instead of $1 billion? What is the difference in terms of lifestyle? Nothing! This is the same with 750+. No wonder is gonna happen if you pass this mark.
I know someone who got an 800 and went to Wharton (UVA undergrad). It does happen, but anything above 750 is fine. Only difference seemed to be that an 800 is really the only GMAT score which you can put on your resume and will make you stand out to banks - other scores will not stand out since everyone will have gotten that high.
Thanks. I realize that there isn't much difference though between anything >750 for the reasons stated above.
Umm... did I even say it was for undergrad? I guess I confused you. I meant to say if you go through the people that are in those MBA or M.Fin. programs, some of them that got in may have an 800 GMAT.
I didn't mean Harvard, Yale, Princeton, or Stanford for their undergrad, I meant for their MBA or Princeton's M.Fin. programs; some of those students might have an 800 GMAT, which helped them in getting into those programs.
Dixm, yes i know exactly what you said and what you meant. That's why your list of schools is WRONG.
Harvard/Stanford, ok.
Princeton, they don't have a business school. I don't think you knew that when you wrote your first statement. In addition, ONLY MBA programs require the GMAT exclusively. Other grad programs including Master in Finance programs only require GRE. Now there might be some random program out there which doesn't fit the mold, but in general this is the way it is. You need to look up the definition of GMAT. Basically, you shouldn't talk about Princeton in any discussion about bschools (this forum) or GMAT (this thread).
Yale, it's considered a decent but NOT a top-notch business school. It is highly unlikely that anyone there would have a 800 GMAT. If your goal is to look for students with 800 GMAT scores, that's not where you'd look.
Your "list" of schools is stereotypical of someone who doesn't know anything about graduate bschools, hence my comment.
Probably not at Yale Management. LULZ!
Princeton has an M-FIN program that will accept GMAT scores instead of GRE. I do believe Dix said MBA or Master's programs...
Nope, not in his first statement he didn't. His list of 4 schools have one clear thing in common: They are all top undergrad programs. Clearly Dixm didn't know anything about graduate programs and simply made some stuff up.
Also, when choosing between GRE and GMAT, most will choose GRE because its an easier test. If you take the GMAT and got an 800, most likely you will be at (or be applying to) a prestigious MBA as opposed to a Masters in Finance program, which is less highly regarded.
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Yes. A good friend got an 800 on his GMAT. (He also has a master's in Engineering, sick) Got into the MBA program at University of Chicago and graduated at top of his class. Interestingly, same guy interviewed with Boston Consulting Group, Bain and McKinsey and got dinged from all of them! I think a manager at BCG straight out told him he would never make it in management consulting. Harsh.
Frustrated, he started his own business (technology company) and 4 years later sold it to private investors. He "retired" for about two years. Just started another company though...
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