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Who is watching the news? Obama is about to deliver a statement in the White House briefing room. John King from CNN said that the announcement is about Osama Bin Ladin's death.

According to John King, the U.S has the body of Bin Ladin.

So what's next?

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Comments (302)

  • drexelalum11's picture

    What was the US supposed to do with the corpse instead of dumping it in the sea? Parade it through downtown NYC? Bury it with military honours? Keep it in cryogenic storage so we could pull it for skeptical journalists?

  • In reply to blastoise
    maktec5's picture

    blastoise:
    If he owed taxes, the IRS would have nailed him years ago.

    Word, that's true lol.

    Still I Rise

  • In reply to ryan8700
    cplpayne's picture

    ryan8700:
    While I do not want defend anyone and I believe that he deserved the punishment, I thought that we live in a developed and civilized world where we take people, who we think committed crime, to courts and judge their actions in that kind of setting. That is what we made Europeans do in Nuremberg in 1946, what the Israelis did with Eichmann. I am sorry but I think that he should have been tried for mass murder in a civilized court with evidence and found guilty that way. This way, we are just simply retaliating his actions and that never leads to good things. just my thoughts

    Yes, because he put his gun down and surrendered.

    "One should recognize reality even when one doesn't like it, indeed, especially when one doesn't like it." - Charlie Munger

  • In reply to konig
    cplpayne's picture

    konig:
    "He who kills a single soul is as if he killed an entire people"-Holy Quran

    I bet he thinks he's going to heaven ...

    Actually, I bet he isn't thinking at all ever since the bullet went through his brain.

    "One should recognize reality even when one doesn't like it, indeed, especially when one doesn't like it." - Charlie Munger

  • Aggravate's picture

    This is a great example of the kind of work the CIA 2.0 (the one with teeth) can do. Seems like a lot of people are confused about our President's strategy in the war on terror. Starting in 2009 the gloves came off, the CIA which had already shifted to a more direct action shop was given a ton more DoD assets and a mandate (fueled by an additional one billion dollar annual payment to Pakistan) to increase the drone operational temp and put operators on the ground in Pakistan. While I agree that this strategic shift was formulated over a period of years, Obama deserves a lot of credit for saying "yes," because Bush didn't do that. 2003-2008 there was a ton more focus on stabilizing Iraq. As someone who has served as an infantry officer in both theaters during those years I can say that matches my experience in how resources were allocated. I can also remember some truly miserable times in Khost freezing my balls off looking in every rocky crevice for this asshole. You can't begin to understand how angry it makes me that he was living in some Pakistani version of a McMansion surrounded by 3 regiments of the Pakistani army and the Pakistani West Point (yes, I resent the comparison). The Pakistani's of course had been saying for years that he was either not in Pakistan or dead.

    So in conclusion:

    1) Bush didn't make killing bin Laden a top priority
    2) Obama made killing bin Laden a top priority
    3) The Pakistani's are slimy pieces of shit that lied to us and likely harbored this guy for years
    4) chpbravo, shouldn't you change you avatar to some booger eating pencil pusher? While I liked getting my (mostly shitty and wrong) intel briefings as much as the next grunt and thank you for your service, but you should probably give the "I fought for your freedom and made sacrifices!" diatribe a rest given that you probably can count the number of times you were outside the wire on one hand.

  • In reply to Scratchy
    cplpayne's picture

    Scratchy:
    It sounds quite weird. I dont wanna be skeptical but why would the US kind of bury the corpse just after killing him? There's no photos of him dead, no autopsy nothing to really give credit to this attack. What if Bin Laden just died from his kidney failure something like three years ago and today was the most appropriate day, for X reasons, to reveal such information?

    DNA testing is underway with the remains of Osama's sister who died in Boston. The pics circulating the web currently are fake, but I read that a Gov. spokesman said that there are actually real pics and they are not sure if they are going to release them.

    "One should recognize reality even when one doesn't like it, indeed, especially when one doesn't like it." - Charlie Munger

  • Banker88's picture

    Pics or it didn't happen (like a plane hitting the pentagon on 9/11)...

  • In reply to Gekko21
    eokpar02's picture

    Gekko21:

    Dude, shut the fuck up. While I'm with ANT on this that Bush deserves way more credit for this than Obama. I'm not going to get political with this.

    Why? Bin Laden had been hiding in that compound for 6 years.

    I am not cocky, I am confident, and when you tell me I am the best it is a compliment.
    -Styles P

  • In reply to starwin
    happypantsmcgee's picture

    starwin:
    I wanted Osama captured alive, so the US could interrogate him.

    And ask him what? "Where is Osa...nevermind."

    If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses - Henry Ford

  • TheKing's picture

    Bush on Bin Laden:

    But, yeah, let's gloss over the Obama administration's shift in strategy which actually got the guy.

    I find it hysterical that people are praising Bush for freeing the Iraqi people when we didn't even go into Iraq under those pretenses. We went in because of WMDs. When there were none, we moved the goalposts to fulfilling a neocon dream of nation building in the middle east. By doing so, we stretched our military thin and diverted resources away from the War on Terror and capturing / killing Osama Bin Laden to repairing a country that was destroyed by our own doing. I'm not saying that the Iraqi people being free is a bad thing, but I am saying that I believe that strategic, targeted uses of military force for the war on terror are a helluva lot better than sending 4,000 US troops to die for Iraqi freedom and claiming that you don't care or think about the leader of the terrorist organization that was responsible for the attacks on 9/11.

  • In reply to Aggravate
    cphbravo96's picture

    Aggravate:
    4) chpbravo, shouldn't you change you avatar to some booger eating pencil pusher? While I liked getting my (mostly shitty and wrong) intel briefings as much as the next grunt and thank you for your service, but you should probably give the "I fought for your freedom and made sacrifices!" diatribe a rest given that you probably can count the number of times you were outside the wire on one hand.

    Thank you for turning over all those rocks and please tell describe to me what everything looked like. I have never even seen the sunlight in Iraq because I just huddled inside my TOC and never went outside the wire. Thanks for revealing my deepest, darkest secret everyone on WSO, now I won't even get half the respect I did before...which wasn't much to begin with.

    And yes, you are much better than me...and the rest of the Army as well. We should actually think about getting rid of any and all support units since they don't contribute anything, we can just have a bunch of grunts...then we would be much better off.

    As far as my shitty Intel briefs, unless you worked at CENTCOM or INSCOM or were part of CFLCC, CJTF7 or the 82nd Airbone, you haven't seen shit from me.

    Alas, I am just an Army pog, I've done nothing, have seen nothing and contributed nothing.

    Regards

    "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so."
    - Ronald Reagan

  • In reply to eokpar02
    cphbravo96's picture

    eokpar02:
    Gekko21:

    Dude, shut the fuck up. While I'm with ANT on this that Bush deserves way more credit for this than Obama. I'm not going to get political with this.

    Why? Bin Laden had been hiding in that compound for 6 years.

    Damn dude, you knew that he was there the whole time?!? You should have told somebody.

    Regards

    "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so."
    - Ronald Reagan

  • In reply to Scratchy
    wolverine19x89's picture

    Scratchy:
    It sounds quite weird. I dont wanna be skeptical but why would the US kind of bury the corpse just after killing him? There's no photos of him dead, no autopsy nothing to really give credit to this attack. What if Bin Laden just died from his kidney failure something like three years ago and today was the most appropriate day, for X reasons, to reveal such information?

    What is this? I don't even...

    I guess it's part of his religion to bury the body within 24 hours... and I'm sure they did do at least a minor autopsy, they at least did DNA testing. I'm sure it's not going to take an insanely smart dr. to tell us that Osama probably died because of that huge bullet in his head.

    If your dreams don't scare you, then they are not big enough.

    "There are two types of people in this world: People who say they pee in the shower, and dirty fucking liars."-Louis C.K.

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  • HireUp212's picture

    My thoughts:

    1) Foremost, huge props to our military and special forces. It wasn't an invasion force that got this done, it was a handful of elite American soldiers who did it in a matter of minutes with no casualties. And props to the hundreds more of intelligence officers that supported them. This is on par with the greatest special forces missions ever conducted. This is why they should fear us, not because we have a thinly-spread, under-manned land force stationed in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    2) This is definitely a victory for Obama, not Bush. I am not an Obama fan and if this contributes to his re-election, so be it. We'll debate that all later. For now, as Commander-in-Chief, he made sure that adequate resources were still being dedicated to finding and killing that son of a bitch - when I'm sure that some of his advisers were probably telling him that, after 10 years, this would be more symbolic than anything and that resources would better be spent elsewhere.

    3) BURIAL AT SEA??? WHAT THE FUCK?? I want to see a picture of the bastard's dead body. This man who planned the "greatest" terrorist attack in history and evaded one of the best intelligence services in the world for nearly 10 years - I want to see a picture of the guy's bloodied and battered body, so that everyone can see just how human he is and that we fukin killed him. If they don't release pictures, that's a huge tactical mistake in my mind - Americans deserve to see for themselves.

  • loki276's picture

    And risk creating a thousand more bin ladens brilliant idea mate

  • In reply to HireUp212
    drexelalum11's picture

    HireUp212:
    3) BURIAL AT SEA??? WHAT THE FUCK?? I want to see a picture of the bastard's dead body. This man who planned the "greatest" terrorist attack in history and evaded one of the best intelligence services in the world for nearly 10 years - I want to see a picture of the guy's bloodied and battered body, so that everyone can see just how human he is and that we fukin killed him. If they don't release pictures, that's a huge tactical mistake in my mind - Americans deserve to see for themselves.

    There are pictures, they just haven't decided if it will be useful to release them or not. On the one hand, it would obviously please all of us. On the other hand, they could be used to inflame muslim passions, particularly if his body was violated (ie Pablo Escobar, who had his mustache trimmed to a Hitler look in a Hitler look). I'd love to print out a picture of Osama's corpse so I can piss on it, but not if that means US soldiers are going to die

  • kingtut's picture

    Dumping his body was the best solution. If the body had been brought to the U.S. the location would have undoubtedly become a shrine for terrorists.

    24 SEALs from SEAL Team Six = incredible.

  • In reply to kingtut
    HireUp212's picture

    kingtut:
    Dumping his body was the best solution. If the body had been brought to the U.S. the location would have undoubtedly become a shrine for terrorists.

    24 SEALs from SEAL Team Six = incredible.

    Explain how a grave in the United States would become a shrine for terrorists from the Middle East...

    Unless half his face was blown off by the bullets (which is actually a real possibility), they should release the pictures. The celebration and closure that this would bring to millions is worth the incremental retaliatory risk - and I say incremental because I don't see how releasing the pictures by themselves would prompt more retaliation than just the news of his death. I think Navy SEALS were disciplined enough to not dismember the body after the mission they had just carried out.

  • kingtut's picture

    I would not have wanted his body brought on US soil much less buried here ^^^. I'm sure pictures will be released at some point. Someone videotaped the execution of Saddam so I would imagine that snapping a picture of Osama would not have been too difficult.

    I doubt that the SEALs did anything to the body. After all the gun fire ceased they probably stood around his body and were just like "Holy shit, we just killed Osama Bin Laden"

  • In reply to cphbravo96
    Tracer's picture

    cphbravo96:
    Aggravate:
    4) chpbravo, shouldn't you change you avatar to some booger eating pencil pusher? While I liked getting my (mostly shitty and wrong) intel briefings as much as the next grunt and thank you for your service, but you should probably give the "I fought for your freedom and made sacrifices!" diatribe a rest given that you probably can count the number of times you were outside the wire on one hand.

    Thank you for turning over all those rocks and please tell describe to me what everything looked like. I have never even seen the sunlight in Iraq because I just huddled inside my TOC and never went outside the wire. Thanks for revealing my deepest, darkest secret everyone on WSO, now I won't even get half the respect I did before...which wasn't much to begin with.

    And yes, you are much better than me...and the rest of the Army as well. We should actually think about getting rid of any and all support units since they don't contribute anything, we can just have a bunch of grunts...then we would be much better off.

    As far as my shitty Intel briefs, unless you worked at CENTCOM or INSCOM or were part of CFLCC, CJTF7 or the 82nd Airbone, you haven't seen shit from me.

    Alas, I am just an Army pog, I've done nothing, have seen nothing and contributed nothing.

    Regards

    FO > BO, u jelly?

  • UFOinsider's picture

    WOOOW, whatever guy on the SEAL team that hauled Bin Laden's sorry carcass back to the helicopter the mother of all trophies.

    Thank God he's dead.

    Now, maybe we can get back to the business of building a better world.

    Get busy living

  • In reply to Tracer
    cphbravo96's picture

    Tracer:
    cphbravo96:
    Aggravate:
    4) chpbravo, shouldn't you change you avatar to some booger eating pencil pusher? While I liked getting my (mostly shitty and wrong) intel briefings as much as the next grunt and thank you for your service, but you should probably give the "I fought for your freedom and made sacrifices!" diatribe a rest given that you probably can count the number of times you were outside the wire on one hand.

    Thank you for turning over all those rocks and please tell describe to me what everything looked like. I have never even seen the sunlight in Iraq because I just huddled inside my TOC and never went outside the wire. Thanks for revealing my deepest, darkest secret everyone on WSO, now I won't even get half the respect I did before...which wasn't much to begin with.

    And yes, you are much better than me...and the rest of the Army as well. We should actually think about getting rid of any and all support units since they don't contribute anything, we can just have a bunch of grunts...then we would be much better off.

    As far as my shitty Intel briefs, unless you worked at CENTCOM or INSCOM or were part of CFLCC, CJTF7 or the 82nd Airbone, you haven't seen shit from me.

    Alas, I am just an Army pog, I've done nothing, have seen nothing and contributed nothing.

    Regards

    FO > BO, u jelly?

    No, I am not jelly.

    Regards

    "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so."
    - Ronald Reagan

  • Banker88's picture

    Seriously, the most wanted criminal on earth was killed at quite an opportune time for Obama, and they won't release one picture to prove it? Call me a conspiracy theorist, but that's BS. And I don't buy any explanation that it might anger terrorist. Cause it's not like we're already doing that by invading every country in the middle east. Gimme a freakin break.

  • In reply to Tracer
    loki276's picture

    Tracer:
    cphbravo96:
    Aggravate:
    4) chpbravo, shouldn't you change you avatar to some booger eating pencil pusher? While I liked getting my (mostly shitty and wrong) intel briefings as much as the next grunt and thank you for your service, but you should probably give the "I fought for your freedom and made sacrifices!" diatribe a rest given that you probably can count the number of times you were outside the wire on one hand.

    Thank you for turning over all those rocks and please tell describe to me what everything looked like. I have never even seen the sunlight in Iraq because I just huddled inside my TOC and never went outside the wire. Thanks for revealing my deepest, darkest secret everyone on WSO, now I won't even get half the respect I did before...which wasn't much to begin with.

    And yes, you are much better than me...and the rest of the Army as well. We should actually think about getting rid of any and all support units since they don't contribute anything, we can just have a bunch of grunts...then we would be much better off.

    As far as my shitty Intel briefs, unless you worked at CENTCOM or INSCOM or were part of CFLCC, CJTF7 or the 82nd Airbone, you haven't seen shit from me.

    Alas, I am just an Army pog, I've done nothing, have seen nothing and contributed nothing.

    Regards

    FO > BO, u jelly?


    lol that made me laugh a lot
  • In reply to loki276
    Tracer's picture

    loki276:
    Tracer:

    FO > BO, u jelly?

    lol that made me laugh a lot

    Definitely was having fun with that one. Apparently 2 people, or 1 person with 2 accounts, don't have a sense of humor.

  • thor1000's picture

    I don't get what's so special about those SEALs its not like it was a tough job compared what the whole army does in afganistan.

    If you're looking for a hero, how bout the US and the entire population that had to sacrifice so much for this mission of 10 years, regardless of every individuals political affiliation. The US paid one of the highes prices ever to get him and futile or not, americans can congratulate themselves if not on success than on endurance. Not giving up made the US what it is.

  • In reply to thor1000
    drexelalum11's picture

    thor1000:
    I don't get what's so special about those SEALs its not like it was a tough job compared what the whole army does in afganistan.

    If you're looking for a hero, how bout the US and the entire population that had to sacrifice so much for this mission of 10 years, regardless of every individuals political affiliation. The US paid one of the highes prices ever to get him and futile or not, americans can congratulate themselves if not on success than on endurance. Not giving up made the US what it is.

    I mean, I'm not a particularly humble person, but I think this is ridiculous. What exactly have I had to sacrifice over the last ten years? Did getting my nuts felt up at airports help catch Osama? Did the cost of the CIA represent a massive part of my pay?

    There are people who sacrificed in order that Osama could be killed. I'm not one of them, and I'm not willing to pretend that I am.

  • fomc's picture

    I hope you realize the significance of this right? Special forces killed bin laden but obama will undoubtedly get credit as it happened under his watch. Now, I am 100% sure Obama will win a 2nd mandate. Osama's death will be Obama's ticket for a 2nd term in the White House. I feel sorry for any republicans who will compete against him as they won't stand a chance.

  • thor1000's picture

    How about US losing support internationally? didn't help catch osama but it was a price and your nuts would have been felt up regardless of osama-hunt. How about that the spending in the early 2000's partially contributed to the debt problem now?

  • In reply to thor1000
    drexelalum11's picture

    thor1000:
    How about US losing support internationally? didn't help catch osama but it was a price and your nuts would have been felt up regardless of osama-hunt. How about that the spending in the early 2000's partially contributed to the debt problem now?

    The US lost support internationally because we wanted to kill the most wanted man in the world, who had launched attacks on the US and countless other countries? That is news to me.

    The cost of killing him contributed to our debt problem? The US intelligence budget is about $44bn a year(1). Even if ALL of that were spent on tracking down Osama for the past ten years, that is a total cost of $440bn, or under 3% of the national debt, and about $1200 for me personally. I spent almost that much on alcohol and cigars to celebrate his death.

    Stop being an idiot.

    ----
    (1) http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/08/politics/08budge...

  • Clarkey's picture

    The Seal Team that took him down are definitely getting into HBS next year. What a bullet point on a resume:

    - Lead a special assault team that took down Osama Bin Laden and saved the world

  • starwin's picture

    This doesn't make sense, why did the U.S. buried Osama Bin Laden at sea within 24 hours 400 miles away at Islambad? When Saddam Hussein was extradited to Iraq and hanged in public.

  • In reply to Clarkey
    cplpayne's picture

    Clarkey:
    The Seal Team that took him down are definitely getting into HBS next year. What a bullet point on a resume:

    - Lead a special assault team that took down Osama Bin Laden and saved the world

    and will be working in S&T at GS and MS

    "One should recognize reality even when one doesn't like it, indeed, especially when one doesn't like it." - Charlie Munger

  • In reply to starwin
    fomc's picture

    starwin:
    This doesn't make sense, why did the U.S. buried Osama Bin Laden at sea within 24 hours 400 miles away at Islambad? When Saddam Hussein was extradited to Iraq and hanged in public.

    We'll probably never know the exact details but I doubt they've actually done that. Most probably they released this info to appease Muslims as in their tradition a dead body must be buried within 24 hrs. Personally, I don't think the Government has disposed of his body yet.

  • In reply to thor1000
    kingtut's picture

    thor1000:
    I don't get what's so special about those SEALs its not like it was a tough job compared what the whole army does in afganistan..

    Are you looking to have monkey shit thrown at you. You clearly are not versed in the history of our military. Those SEALs, as you called them, have trained their entire lives for a moment like this. Next time there's a world figure head that needs to be killed I guess you can raise your hand because it's so easy.

    I would never belittle any arm of our military, but there is a distinct difference between the special forces (i.e. SEALs, DF, and FR) and the regular Army.

  • konig's picture

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DywpYUgPQMo

    America the gullible

    "MASSIVE BULLET IN HIS HEAD....." ... RIGHT

    Greed is Good.

  • wolverine19x89's picture

    yeah thor1000... I don't know what you're trying to get at. The fact that no americans were harmed speaks for itself about how awesome those guys are... and the fact that SEAL Team 6 was also the same team that destroyed those 3 Somali pirates at the same time.

    and his body was supposedly disposed of within 24 hours because it's a part of some Muslim tradition... they didn't do it with Saddam because we captured him alive.

    If your dreams don't scare you, then they are not big enough.

    "There are two types of people in this world: People who say they pee in the shower, and dirty fucking liars."-Louis C.K.

  • konig's picture

    If you look really,really close, and away from all what you're forced to hear and see, most of the media (especially US media) is almost exactly like that ^

    ^^FABRICATIONS that are believed just because it was on the news (ie the killing of Osama bin Laden and desposing of his body in a sea burial when the sea is clearly hundreds of miles away..something smells fishy, no? Oh lookie, it's almost 2012...isn't that when the next presidential elections are ?)

    Greed is Good.

  • In reply to konig
    drexelalum11's picture

    konig:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DywpYUgPQMo

    America the gullible

    "MASSIVE BULLET IN HIS HEAD....." ... RIGHT

    The photo in question was initially broadcast by Pakistani media, so I'm not really sure what that has to do with America being gullible.

    In all honesty, you're just an asshole, and if you acted the way you do online in any bar in America, you'd get the shit kicked out of you. Sorry they don't have bars in Saudi Arabia - you jelly?

  • In reply to konig
    wolverine19x89's picture

    konig:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DywpYUgPQMo

    America the gullible

    "MASSIVE BULLET IN HIS HEAD....." ... RIGHT

    Nobody was buying it... not even for a little bit

    If your dreams don't scare you, then they are not big enough.

    "There are two types of people in this world: People who say they pee in the shower, and dirty fucking liars."-Louis C.K.

  • konig's picture

    @scott19x89: There's not a single verse or hadith that says that a person must be buried within 24 hours. A friend of mine died a few years ago (here in Saudi) and he wasn't buried until 2 weeks later (possible homicide)... let alone a person who masterminded the plan that killed 3000+ people..catch my drift?

    Greed is Good.

  • konig's picture

    @drexelalum: We do have bars here (although quite out of sight). CNN/FOX didnt tell you that, did they?

    Greed is Good.

  • In reply to konig
    drexelalum11's picture

    konig:
    If you look really,really close, and away from all what you're forced to hear and see, most of the media (especially US media) is almost exactly like that ^

    ^^FABRICATIONS that are believed just because it was on the news (ie the killing of Osama bin Laden and desposing of his body in a sea burial when the sea is clearly hundreds of miles away..something smells fishy, no? Oh lookie, it's almost 2012...isn't that when the next presidential elections are ?)

    Oh lookie, it's almost 2012. You'd almost think that'd have some method of transport that could cover vast distances in short periods of time... maybe something airborne, possibly even with rotors? I don't know, just a suggestion.

  • konig's picture

    lol nice one drexel

    depends how you define almost. stretchy word.

    Greed is Good.

  • In reply to konig
    drexelalum11's picture

    konig:
    @drexelalum: We do have bars here (although quite out of sight). CNN/FOX didnt tell you that, did they?

    No, because no one gives a shit about your uppity pissant country except when you step out of line and have to be spanked.

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