We are the 53%
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on 10/28/11 at 7:36pm
I apologize if this has been posted already...I don't believe it has, but I'm also not as engaged here on WSO as I used to be.
Anyways, the link below is for the 53% of the country that pays for the rest. OWS doesn't represent me nor 99% of the people in this country...they can't even seem to represent themselves actually. Enjoy...
These are a couple of my favorites...
and
Regards
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Dude, she might even like the oldmansacks since she has that helmet and isn't likely to get a concussion wrestling those things, lol.
Regards
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eokpar02 wrote: You don't pay
You don't pay for the rest. You just pay for big government. There is a difference.
Soooooooo...is big government just holding all that tax revenue in an escrow account?
Regards
"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so."
- Ronald Reagan
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That's awesome.
Regards
"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so."
- Ronald Reagan
Regards. That is all.
Regards.
That is all.
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Dude, that is so AMAZING
Dude, that is so AMAZING stuff. To read those short blurbs about people who work their ass off and who expect no entitlement they didn't earn. I implore people to read the OP's link. Some amazing stories in there.
Really like the first and
Really like the first and second story on this page: http://the53.tumblr.com/page/3
There's also one about someone's grandfather who lost his limbs in WW2 as well.
Love this.
Love this.
People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis, you can't trust people Jeremy
There was a good article on
There was a good article on CNN about this.
http://money.cnn.com/2011/10/26/news/economy/occup...
Although, I agree with this ideal, I think some of us here have been guilty of misconstruing the intentions of the OWS movement. I dont believe all of them 'want something for nothing' and are protesting legitimate issues.
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There was a good article on CNN about this.
http://money.cnn.com/2011/10/26/news/economy/occup...
Although, I agree with this ideal, I think some of us here have been guilty of misconstruing the intentions of the OWS movement. I dont believe all of them 'want something for nothing' and are protesting legitimate issues.
I think most of us sorta agree with you. The problem is, you don't see these normal people with legit complaints, you only see the nutcases. Additionally, it seems the overwhelming majority do want something for nothing. There are some polls out that say 33% or so of the OWS protesters (in NYC) support violence to further the cause. Granted there is no telling how accurate that poll is, but many of us have said from the beginning that this would turn into a mess. These folks have no clear or concise message and they haven't brought forth a plan on how to change what they believe is wrong. Now the public is growing tired of them and are starting to wonder how all these people are able to survive without working and questioning why they are going to work everyday while these people just sit around with signs and hangout.
Additionally, it will start getting seriously cold and that will either force them to pack up or amp up and that's when the serious violence and rioting start.
Regards
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- Ronald Reagan
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[quote=cphbravo96]The problem is, you don't see these normal people with legit complaints, you only see the nutcases. [quote/]
Well, thats the media, sensationalising as they do. Example, it was found in London that the protesters outside St Pauls Cathedral left their tents before midnight every night. Quite the scandal considering its costing thousands of pounds per day to not resume opening the cathedral. Yet one newspaper covered it. In contrast, although I understand the scale of the protests are, rightly, much larger in the US, newspapers are full of stories. And when the same story is published throughout, thats when you resort to the nutcases.
[quote=cphbravo96]Additionally, it seems the overwhelming majority do want something for nothing. There are some polls out that say 33% or so of the OWS protesters (in NYC) support violence to further the cause. Granted there is no telling how accurate that poll is, but many of us have said from the beginning that this would turn into a mess. [quote/]
Again, this stems from the comparisons drawn by everyone to the protests in the Arab world this past summer. What people fail to understand is the divergence between the two. People had legitimate gripes in places like Egypt, Tunisia, etc. Dictatorship, poverty, etc - and they resorted to violence very early on to counter the brutality they faced from the respective police forces. When they managed to achieve their goals using this method, its not hard to envisage people from the OWS inciting change adopting this method. It also doesnt help when one of the leaders of the movement in Egypt arrives in New York and talks hardline methods, not to give up, any means necessary crap, etc. Its inevitable.
[quote=cphbravo96]These folks have no clear or concise message and they haven't brought forth a plan on how to change what they believe is wrong. Now the public is growing tired of them and are starting to wonder how all these people are able to survive without working and questioning why they are going to work everyday while these people just sit around with signs and hangout.[quote/]
Cant argue with you on this point. Especially with the 53% thing and the revelations in London. Even if they didnt come across as bitter unemployed people losing in the game of life, the fact that so many appear young, they are branded childish and immature. The media is definitely condescending. But those stupid notes dropped on OWS Chicago just highlights all the points that they stand for; i.e. the collapsing environment, labour standards, housing policy, government corruption, World Bank lending practices, unemployment, increasing wealth disparity and so on. Different people have been affected by different aspects of the same system -- and they believe they are symptoms of the same core problem.
Additionally, it will start getting seriously cold and that will either force them to pack up or amp up and that's when the serious violence and rioting start.
Yes and no to this. I think those committed to the cause and change will remain. The flaky, hipster student will probably look for warmer pastures. However, the way the media will portray those still out there in the winter could have one of two effects. Either:
1) People will feel sympathy for them. There will be a greater clamour to hear them out and perhaps they can finally settle for a direction and whatever demands they seek.
2) or there will be minor, isolated, violent incidents. Perhaps clamping down by the NYPD, etc. However, these 'injustices' could attract those fucks who live for the destruction of society. We had a taste here in London not too long ago. A legitimate issue could turn into full scale riots. I'm certain there are such people in the movement right now. Thats where the real trouble could emerge.
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[quote=cphbravo96]The problem is, you don't see these normal people with legit complaints, you only see the nutcases. [quote/]
Well, thats the media, sensationalising as they do. Example, it was found in London that the protesters outside St Pauls Cathedral left their tents before midnight every night. Quite the scandal considering its costing thousands of pounds per day to not resume opening the cathedral. Yet one newspaper covered it. In contrast, although I understand the scale of the protests are, rightly, much larger in the US, newspapers are full of stories. And when the same story is published throughout, thats when you resort to the nutcases.
[quote=cphbravo96]Additionally, it seems the overwhelming majority do want something for nothing. There are some polls out that say 33% or so of the OWS protesters (in NYC) support violence to further the cause. Granted there is no telling how accurate that poll is, but many of us have said from the beginning that this would turn into a mess. [quote/]
Again, this stems from the comparisons drawn by everyone to the protests in the Arab world this past summer. What people fail to understand is the divergence between the two. People had legitimate gripes in places like Egypt, Tunisia, etc. Dictatorship, poverty, etc - and they resorted to violence very early on to counter the brutality they faced from the respective police forces. When they managed to achieve their goals using this method, its not hard to envisage people from the OWS inciting change adopting this method. It also doesnt help when one of the leaders of the movement in Egypt arrives in New York and talks hardline methods, not to give up, any means necessary crap, etc. Its inevitable.
[quote=cphbravo96]These folks have no clear or concise message and they haven't brought forth a plan on how to change what they believe is wrong. Now the public is growing tired of them and are starting to wonder how all these people are able to survive without working and questioning why they are going to work everyday while these people just sit around with signs and hangout.[quote/]
Cant argue with you on this point. Especially with the 53% thing and the revelations in London. Even if they didnt come across as bitter unemployed people losing in the game of life, the fact that so many appear young, they are branded childish and immature. The media is definitely condescending. But those stupid notes dropped on OWS Chicago just highlights all the points that they stand for; i.e. the collapsing environment, labour standards, housing policy, government corruption, World Bank lending practices, unemployment, increasing wealth disparity and so on. Different people have been affected by different aspects of the same system -- and they believe they are symptoms of the same core problem.
Additionally, it will start getting seriously cold and that will either force them to pack up or amp up and that's when the serious violence and rioting start.
Yes and no to this. I think those committed to the cause and change will remain. The flaky, hipster student will probably look for warmer pastures. However, the way the media will portray those still out there in the winter could have one of two effects. Either:
1) People will feel sympathy for them. There will be a greater clamour to hear them out and perhaps they can finally settle for a direction and whatever demands they seek.
2) or there will be minor, isolated, violent incidents. Perhaps clamping down by the NYPD, etc. However, these 'injustices' could attract those fucks who live for the destruction of society. We had a taste here in London not too long ago. A legitimate issue could turn into full scale riots. I'm certain there are such people in the movement right now. Thats where the real trouble could emerge.
(No subject)
[quote=cphbravo96]The problem is, you don't see these normal people with legit complaints, you only see the nutcases. [quote/]
Well, thats the media, sensationalising as they do. Example, it was found in London that the protesters outside St Pauls Cathedral left their tents before midnight every night. Quite the scandal considering its costing thousands of pounds per day to not resume opening the cathedral. Yet one newspaper covered it. In contrast, although I understand the scale of the protests are, rightly, much larger in the US, newspapers are full of stories. And when the same story is published throughout, thats when you resort to the nutcases.
[quote=cphbravo96]Additionally, it seems the overwhelming majority do want something for nothing. There are some polls out that say 33% or so of the OWS protesters (in NYC) support violence to further the cause. Granted there is no telling how accurate that poll is, but many of us have said from the beginning that this would turn into a mess. [quote/]
Again, this stems from the comparisons drawn by everyone to the protests in the Arab world this past summer. What people fail to understand is the divergence between the two. People had legitimate gripes in places like Egypt, Tunisia, etc. Dictatorship, poverty, etc - and they resorted to violence very early on to counter the brutality they faced from the respective police forces. When they managed to achieve their goals using this method, its not hard to envisage people from the OWS inciting change adopting this method. It also doesnt help when one of the leaders of the movement in Egypt arrives in New York and talks hardline methods, not to give up, any means necessary crap, etc. Its inevitable.
[quote=cphbravo96]These folks have no clear or concise message and they haven't brought forth a plan on how to change what they believe is wrong. Now the public is growing tired of them and are starting to wonder how all these people are able to survive without working and questioning why they are going to work everyday while these people just sit around with signs and hangout.[quote/]
Cant argue with you on this point. Especially with the 53% thing and the revelations in London. Even if they didnt come across as bitter unemployed people losing in the game of life, the fact that so many appear young, they are branded childish and immature. The media is definitely condescending. But those stupid notes dropped on OWS Chicago just highlights all the points that they stand for; i.e. the collapsing environment, labour standards, housing policy, government corruption, World Bank lending practices, unemployment, increasing wealth disparity and so on. Different people have been affected by different aspects of the same system -- and they believe they are symptoms of the same core problem.
Additionally, it will start getting seriously cold and that will either force them to pack up or amp up and that's when the serious violence and rioting start.
Yes and no to this. I think those committed to the cause and change will remain. The flaky, hipster student will probably look for warmer pastures. However, the way the media will portray those still out there in the winter could have one of two effects. Either:
1) People will feel sympathy for them. There will be a greater clamour to hear them out and perhaps they can finally settle for a direction and whatever demands they seek.
2) or there will be minor, isolated, violent incidents. Perhaps clamping down by the NYPD, etc. However, these 'injustices' could attract those fucks who live for the destruction of society. We had a taste here in London not too long ago. A legitimate issue could turn into full scale riots. I'm certain there are such people in the movement right now. Thats where the real trouble could emerge.
Ok for some reason it wont
Hope that makes sense CPH!
My God, I would LOVE IT if
You guys realize most of
Jerome Marrow wrote: You guys
There are threads on multiple
Jerome Marrow wrote: There
"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so."
- Ronald Reagan
Also, candidly, if there is
"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so."
- Ronald Reagan
I've also met tons of people
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The one positive of the OWS
lol you guys don't get it and
Jerome, as a soon-to-be
They did a bit more than ask.
Yes, the system is totally
Protesters don't care about
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Excellent point VT. Regards
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Thanks CPH. Posting Friedman
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ANT wrote: Thanks CPH.
"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so."
- Ronald Reagan
As you may have noticed if
Jerome Marrow wrote: As you
"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so."
- Ronald Reagan
cphbravo96 wrote: Jerome
I think I should head on down
TX, you won't be allowed to
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ANT wrote: TX, you won't be
Jerome, What the hell are you
Just posted them in another
1) That is not an official
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Jerome Marrow
"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so."
- Ronald Reagan
Jerome Marrow wrote: ANT
"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so."
- Ronald Reagan
ANT wrote: 1) That is not an
So let me get this straight.
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Please quote your source
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ANT wrote: When the police
cphbravo96 wrote: Jerome
ANT wrote: Protesters don't