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I am surprised at the amount of sensitive guys here on WSO and in the world in general. What is going on? We used to hunt mammoths & plow bitches, go into battles with other feudal armies & plow bitches, get into duels & plow bitches, build houses in the praries & plow bitches. But now ... guys are complaining about girls breaking their hearts, they whine about smallest life challenges, have no idea how to stand up for themselves, don't know how to fix shit, etc. More and more dads are now "stay-at-home dads" which translates into a "fat, neutered house cat." Guys are starting to work at nurturing jobs and start acting like giant vaginas along he way. What has happened to our gender? :( Opinions?

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  • SonnyZH's picture

    SWAGSON.

    Quote:
    The HBS guys have MAD SWAGGER. They frequently wear their class jackets to boston bars, strutting and acting like they own the joint. They just ooze success, confidence, swagger, basically attributes of alpha males.

  • BlackHat's picture

    I have a funny feeling you don't practice what you preach

    I hate victims who respect their executioners

  • cibo's picture
  • couchy's picture

    Justin Beaver and all the other fag pop boys before him...

    Got nothing on what they are doing - but the sad side effect is naive attention-whoring children doing everything they can to get more attention...

  • Kassad's picture

    The sad reality is that men are mostly stupid. That said, girls are masters of manipulation and if what they want is feminine men, make no mistake that dumbasses will wax their legs and write poetry en masse for the chance to get laid. The subsequently lower supply of pussy for more masculine men will drive more guys to cut their balls off in pursuit of twat.

    Eventually, hairy guys who lift weights will become a commodity among women, and they'll desire us as they once did the fat neutered housecats of modern time.

    It's just economics, really.

    Equities are for chumps.

  • In reply to GoodBread
    Relinquis's picture

    GoodBread wrote:
    BlackHat wrote:
    I have a funny feeling you don't practice what you preach

    ^^ This... The fact that you mentioned "plow bitches" so many times leads me to conclude that you're a virgin, sexually frustrated or both... Real men don't need to bring it up so much. It's understood.

  • That_Aston's picture

    If the 1960's never happened, America would be much better off. Except for blacks' rights -- this is a good thing.

    Here to learn and hopefully pass on some knowledge as well. SB if I helped.

  • In reply to Relinquis
    CanadianPositiveCarry's picture

    Relinquis wrote:
    GoodBread wrote:
    BlackHat wrote:
    I have a funny feeling you don't practice what you preach

    ^^ This... The fact that you mentioned "plow bitches" so many times leads me to conclude that you're a virgin, sexually frustrated or both... Real men don't need to bring it up so much. It's understood.

    I think he is referring to male patriarchy and consequent dominance and control of female sexuality (including when she wants to have sex).

  • In reply to couchy
    bfin's picture

    couchy wrote:
    Justin Beaver and all the other fag pop boys before him...

    Got nothing on what they are doing - but the sad side effect is naive attention-whoring children doing everything they can to get more attention...

    How is Bieber a pussy? He uses his talents to exploit parents of teenage girls? I see nothing pussy about that. He is also worth more than 95% of people posting on this site. Also he could basically go anywhere and get anything he wanted. Money and power the stuff most people on here envy he has. What makes him a pussy?

    Parents not parenting and dads not being dads have caused this. Can't beat your kid you'll go to jail can't tell your kid he sucked in T-ball or you're hyper competitive. But I think the largest thing that has led to the pussyfication of mankind is being PC all the time to the point where nothing can be said.

    The answer to your question is 1) network 2) get involved 3) beef up your resume 4) repeat -happypantsmcgee

    WSO is not your personal search function.

  • In reply to bfin
    MMBinNC's picture

    bfin wrote:
    couchy wrote:
    Justin Beaver and all the other fag pop boys before him...

    Got nothing on what they are doing - but the sad side effect is naive attention-whoring children doing everything they can to get more attention...

    How is Bieber a pussy? He uses his talents to exploit parents of teenage girls? I see nothing pussy about that. He is also worth more than 95% of people posting on this site. Also he could basically go anywhere and get anything he wanted. Money and power the stuff most people on here envy he has. What makes him a pussy?

    Parents not parenting and dads not being dads have caused this. Can't beat your kid you'll go to jail can't tell your kid he sucked in T-ball or you're hyper competitive. But I think the largest thing that has led to the pussyfication of mankind is being PC all the time to the point where nothing can be said.

    95% is a little generous. I doubt more than anyone on here has a larger net worth than $112mm. If so, more power t them. But attacking successful people is pretty sad IMHO. Dude sings songs and essentially prints money and pussy for himself. I think anyone on here would trade lives in a second.

    Reality hits you hard, bro...

  • BlackHat's picture

    id trade lives with justin bieber tomorrow morning... except then id have to be pre-pubescent again. and have that goddamn haircut. so actually, let's not trade lives with the biebs. props to him for dominating the world though, even though we all know theres a fat white dude up there somewhere making 10x whatever bieber makes every time he goes out to sing, and that's the guy.

    I hate victims who respect their executioners

  • illiniPride's picture

    What happened is that men no longer need to hunt mammoths, fight feudal lords, engage in mortal duels or build prairie homes.

    Most people are content to take the easy road if it is available to them. The easy road does not produce the type of man you are talking about.

    Leadership can be defined in two words: "Follow Me"

  • In reply to Kassad
    DaCarez's picture

    FSC wrote:
    The sad reality is that men are mostly stupid. That said, girls are masters of manipulation and if what they want is feminine men, make no mistake that dumbasses will wax their legs and write poetry en masse for the chance to get laid. The subsequently lower supply of pussy for more masculine men will drive more guys to cut their balls off in pursuit of twat.

    Eventually, hairy guys who lift weights will become a commodity among women, and they'll desire us as they once did the fat neutered housecats of modern time.

    It's just economics, really.

    Speaking of waxing legs, when the hell did it become unacceptable to have f***ing chest hair? Go to any pool party and you'll see a mass of guys who look like overgrown pre-pubescent boys, with no body hair at all. It's quite disturbing.

  • In reply to CanadianPositiveCarry
    Relinquis's picture

    CanadianPositiveCarry wrote:
    Relinquis wrote:
    GoodBread wrote:
    BlackHat wrote:
    I have a funny feeling you don't practice what you preach

    ^^ This... The fact that you mentioned "plow bitches" so many times leads me to conclude that you're a virgin, sexually frustrated or both... Real men don't need to bring it up so much. It's understood.

    I think he is referring to male patriarchy and consequent dominance and control of female sexuality (including when she wants to have sex).


    i don't know.. the original post reeks of desperation and an isolated identity (gender) politics view of the world, i.e. defining being a man in terms of dominating "bitches" or being a shit father. Sounds a lot like the manufactured Hollywood/advertising segment of the man-child / permanent adolescence... (think films like Old School, etc...) Guess what. Our ancestors fell in love and cared for their women too. Also, they weren't all cunts to their children and women... One of the most masculine characters in pop culture is the main character in "In Pursuit of Happyness" (based on a real man, not some marketing department's idea of what young men should be like).

    His post would have been more meaningful were it about true masculinity and not just an adolescent boy's caricature view of what it is to be a man. For example, things like being true to one's self, being bound by one's word or protecting the weak and such, e.g. they were important in the past because we lived in small or tribal communities and our lives weren't dominated by monolithic social institutions and a centralised system of laws, enforcement and social programmes. Society needed us to be men, so we were men. However, now that we have institutions to take up a lot of these roles, the nature of manhood is different from what it was in the past. It's up to us how to define it for ourselves, but i don't think that the Will Farrell (in OldSchool) / Seth Rogan (in most films) parody charters are appropriate "ideals" or role models. Like those films, the Op's dominant theme is that of relating a man's role to female sexuality. Even the title refers to female genitalia.

  • In reply to Relinquis
    CanadianPositiveCarry's picture

    Relinquis wrote:
    CanadianPositiveCarry wrote:
    Relinquis wrote:
    GoodBread wrote:
    BlackHat wrote:
    I have a funny feeling you don't practice what you preach

    ^^ This... The fact that you mentioned "plow bitches" so many times leads me to conclude that you're a virgin, sexually frustrated or both... Real men don't need to bring it up so much. It's understood.

    I think he is referring to male patriarchy and consequent dominance and control of female sexuality (including when she wants to have sex).


    i don't know.. the original post reeks of desperation and an isolated identity (gender) politics view of the world, i.e. defining being a man in terms of dominating "bitches" or being a shit father. Sounds a lot like the manufactured Hollywood/advertising segment of the man-child / permanent adolescence... (think films like Old School, etc...) Guess what. Our ancestors fell in love and cared for their women too. Also, they weren't all cunts to their children and women... One of the most masculine characters in pop culture is the main character in "In Pursuit of Happyness" (based on a real man, not some marketing department's idea of what young men should be like).

    His post would have been more meaningful were it about true masculinity and not just an adolescent boy's caricature view of what it is to be a man. For example, things like being true to one's self, being bound by one's word or protecting the weak and such, e.g. they were important in the past because we lived in small or tribal communities and our lives weren't dominated by monolithic social institutions and a centralised system of laws, enforcement and social programmes. Society needed us to be men, so we were men. However, now that we have institutions to take up a lot of these roles, the nature of manhood is different from what it was in the past. It's up to us how to define it for ourselves, but i don't think that the Will Farrell (in OldSchool) / Seth Rogan (in most films) parody charters are appropriate "ideals" or role models. Like those films, the Op's dominant theme is that of relating a man's role to female sexuality. Even the title refers to female genitalia.

    well put

  • R0bin's picture

    This is why I do MMA on the side...

    Baby you're the perfect shape, baby you're the perfect weight. Treat me like my birthday, I want it this way and I want it that way. It makes a man feel good baby.

  • Art.Vandelay's picture

    You know, you could just do both. I have a hairy chest and tattoos, powerlift religiously, work on cars as a summer job, build shit in my free time, along with other "manly" things. But I also enjoy playing the piano, cried like a baby when Michael Scott left The Office, and have a soft spot for animals.

    That being said, I think the main thing we can all agree on is, touting yourself as "manly" because you do, or dont do, certain things, such as having feelings or whatever the OP was babbling about, is the furthest thing from being masculine. It shows insecurity. A real man is secure within himself.

    --Art Vandelay

  • BlackHat's picture

    Things that make you a man, generally speaking:
    1) You provide
    2) Your word means something
    3) You're collected and reliable when something goes wrong
    4) You define yourself
    5) You take responsibility for you and your dependents

    Contrary to popular belief, 50% of the world's population are NOT men. Try 5.

    I hate victims who respect their executioners

  • In reply to BlackHat
    CanadianPositiveCarry's picture

    BlackHat wrote:
    Things that make you a man, generally speaking:
    1) You provide
    2) Your word means something
    3) You're collected and reliable when something goes wrong
    4) You define yourself
    5) You take responsibility for you and your dependents

    Contrary to popular belief, 50% of the world's population are NOT men. Try 5.

    6. you are mentally tough and operate according to "whatever doesn't kill me only makes me stronger"

  • sayandarula's picture

    CornellBanker wrote:
    Guys are starting to work at nurturing jobs and start acting like giant vaginas along he way. What has happened to our gender? :( Opinions?

    dafuk you talkin bout?

    back up your arguments with more than just anecdotal evidence. there are still manly men, and "pussies" have always been around as well. how do you know so much about building prairies and hunting mammoths anyways? you weren't there. just because you've been exposed to some romaticized version of history on TV doesn't mean that everyone was paul bunyan 100 years ago.

    Money Never Sleeps? More like Money Never SUCKS amirite?!?!?!?

  • In reply to That_Aston
    eokpar02's picture

    That_Aston wrote:
    If the 1960's never happened, America would be much better off. Except for blacks' rights -- this is a good thing.

    100% agree. The only worse decade was the 1910s (creation of federal reserve, income tax and entry in to WW1 which created the USSR and The Third Reich).

    I am not cocky, I am confident, and when you tell me I am the best it is a compliment.
    -Styles P

  • In reply to BlackHat
    sayandarula's picture

    BlackHat wrote:
    Things that make you a man, generally speaking:
    1) You provide
    2) Your word means something
    3) You're collected and reliable when something goes wrong
    4) You define yourself
    5) You take responsibility for you and your dependents

    Contrary to popular belief, 50% of the world's population are NOT men. Try 5.

    i dunno bro. my definition of a man is a person over 18 who has a cock. whether or not they are "good" men is a matter of opinion.

    Money Never Sleeps? More like Money Never SUCKS amirite?!?!?!?

  • WSOusername's picture

    Justin Beiber is a pussy, this is an unarguable fact.

    Would I trade places with him? Absofuckinlutely. Would I disagree if people then called me a pussy? Absolutely not. Girls are the simplest creatures in the world. All they want is what other girls want. There doesn't have to be any rationale behind it. The ball just has to start rolling and then momentum takes over. If you asked any of these 22, 23 y.o. space cadets why they love him, they wouldn't be able to come up with an answer, but subconsciously it's just because "well, everyone else does". Textbook herd mentality.

    GBS

  • UFOinsider's picture

    Just do your thing, there's more currency in that than anything else. Tough dudes can be totally chill people, and scrawney betas can be total assholes, so it's a function of what each person does: the overarching issue is that you have to your life the way you want and approve of your own decisions. Adhering to or rebelling against gender stereotypes negates INDIVIDUALITY.

    If you really want to get esoteric, the macro view is that we're leaving the era of regulation and entering the era of personal choice.

    Think for yourself.

    Get busy living

  • In reply to CanadianPositiveCarry
    Abdel's picture

    CanadianPositiveCarry wrote:
    BlackHat wrote:
    Things that make you a man, generally speaking:
    1) You provide
    2) Your word means something
    3) You're collected and reliable when something goes wrong
    4) You define yourself
    5) You take responsibility for you and your dependents

    Contrary to popular belief, 50% of the world's population are NOT men. Try 5.

    6. you are mentally tough and operate according to "whatever doesn't kill me only makes me stronger"

    Let's hope you're not referring to your gf leaving you and using that as a proxy to consider yourself a man. lol

  • In reply to Abdel
    UFOinsider's picture

    Abdel wrote:
    OP is so on point.

    Just look at this thread about tipping (http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/if-you-tip-y...). Waiters and WSO posters turn into giant vaginas when someone don't tip.

    You sensitive shemonkeys better man up when it comes to tips.


    Why you gotta hate on my industry? You're as pointless as the OWS crowd that hates on bankers just to do it. Shut the fuck up already.

    Get busy living

  • In reply to UFOinsider
    Abdel's picture

    UFOinsider wrote:
    Abdel wrote:
    OP is so on point.

    Just look at this thread about tipping (http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/if-you-tip-y...). Waiters and WSO posters turn into giant vaginas when someone don't tip.

    You sensitive shemonkeys better man up when it comes to tips.


    Why you gotta hate on my industry? You're as pointless as the OWS crowd that hates on bankers just to do it. Shut the fuck up already.

    haha I love you man

  • In reply to Abdel
    UFOinsider's picture

    Abdel wrote:
    UFOinsider wrote:
    Abdel wrote:
    OP is so on point.

    Just look at this thread about tipping (http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/if-you-tip-y...). Waiters and WSO posters turn into giant vaginas when someone don't tip.

    You sensitive shemonkeys better man up when it comes to tips.


    Why you gotta hate on my industry? You're as pointless as the OWS crowd that hates on bankers just to do it. Shut the fuck up already.

    haha I love you man


    Fuck you

    Get busy living

  • In reply to UFOinsider
    Abdel's picture

    UFOinsider wrote:
    Abdel wrote:
    UFOinsider wrote:
    Abdel wrote:
    OP is so on point.

    Just look at this thread about tipping (http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/if-you-tip-y...). Waiters and WSO posters turn into giant vaginas when someone don't tip.

    You sensitive shemonkeys better man up when it comes to tips.


    Why you gotta hate on my industry? You're as pointless as the OWS crowd that hates on bankers just to do it. Shut the fuck up already.

    haha I love you man


    Fuck you

    You're so sensitive. Here, this will make you feel better

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  • In reply to Abdel
    CanadianPositiveCarry's picture

    Abdel wrote:
    CanadianPositiveCarry wrote:
    BlackHat wrote:
    Things that make you a man, generally speaking:
    1) You provide
    2) Your word means something
    3) You're collected and reliable when something goes wrong
    4) You define yourself
    5) You take responsibility for you and your dependents

    Contrary to popular belief, 50% of the world's population are NOT men. Try 5.

    6. you are mentally tough and operate according to "whatever doesn't kill me only makes me stronger"

    Let's hope you're not referring to your gf leaving you and using that as a proxy to consider yourself a man. lol

    lol, no I am talking about:
    1. losing a grandfather to a Mafia hit
    2. having my entire family lose tens of millions to the point that we almost went bankrupt (we later got most of it back tho)
    3. Dealing with and conquering serious health issues
    4. Getting lost with other hikers in BC glaciers for weeks and almost dying, only later to be found and rushed off to a hospital in a med chopper and after a while to be brought back to life
    5. getting robbed under a gunpoint
    6. failing academically (relatively) and then instead of crying to my mom about it, turning my life around, changing programs, destroying my new program, and against all odds getting into BB
    7. I got more if this is not enough ...

    PS I broke up with my gf not the other way around, still feels shitty though (I guess I'm one of those people OP is talking about haha)

  • In reply to CanadianPositiveCarry
    Abdel's picture

    CanadianPositiveCarry wrote:

    lol, no I am talking about:
    1. losing a grandfather to a Mafia hit
    2. having my entire family lose tens of millions to the point that we almost went bankrupt (we later got most of it back tho)
    3. Dealing with and conquering serious health issues
    4. Getting lost with other hikers in BC glaciers for weeks and almost dying, only later to be found and rushed off to a hospital in a med chopper and after a while to be brought back to life
    5. getting robbed under a gunpoint
    6. failing academically (relatively) and then instead of crying to my mom about it, turning my life around, changing programs, destroying my new program, and against all odds getting into BB
    7. I got more if this is not enough ...

    PS I broke up with my gf not the other way around, still feels shitty though (I guess I'm one of those people OP is talking about haha)

    You must be a Rizzuto

  • Tommy Too-toned's picture

    Analysts become pussies when they realize they're not getting any pussy - not now, not ever. It gets ugly, fast. You're not the guy in the gatorade commercial dunking over everyone, you're joe shitonme, hitting espresso #4 to churn out excel model # can't remember. The other models you once dreamed of...they're still on top of guys like Mike Tyson, as ugly as that eye tattoo's become.

    A bad breath makeout with a (half) female colleague, followed by an early morning comp spread starts to hurt on the inside, not to mention watching her eat a Whopper without makeup at 11 a.m. She's a master at beating the lunch rush. You turn around and there's a cardboard box on the desk across from you. One security guard, two, and oh, there's your friend getting escorted down to Wall - the weather's glorious.

  • In reply to Abdel
    UFOinsider's picture

    Abdel wrote:
    UFOinsider wrote:
    Abdel wrote:
    UFOinsider wrote:
    Abdel wrote:
    OP is so on point.

    Just look at this thread about tipping (http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/if-you-tip-y...). Waiters and WSO posters turn into giant vaginas when someone don't tip.

    You sensitive shemonkeys better man up when it comes to tips.


    Why you gotta hate on my industry? You're as pointless as the OWS crowd that hates on bankers just to do it. Shut the fuck up already.

    haha I love you man


    Fuck you

    You're so sensitive. Here, this will make you feel better


    "Geez, what a fairy"

    -Anderson Cooper

    Get busy living

  • Plugston_of_Undershot's picture

    While I think there is something to be said for the idea that as a society gets wealthier it gets softer, the OP is just another (albeit overblown) example of a cultural meme that has been around since forever.

    Plato was concerned about the manliness of the next generation back in Greek antiquity. Of course unlike Plato, OP has probably not achieved anything in his life that gives his views on manliness any legitimacy or authority.

    Maybe things are different in America, but I have seen no shortage in manliness in the countries that I have grown up and lived in.

    @FSC, there is nothing especially feminine or unmanly about poetry.

    @GoldmanBallSachs, it's ironic that you mention "herd mentality." Justin Bieber is no better or worse or even different from the rest of popular culture. And yet he is constantly singled out for criticism; talk about herd mentality...

  • Plugston_of_Undershot's picture

    Oh, and for those of you who are interested in the topic, Manliness by Harvey C. Mansfield (that's his name, seriously) is a good contemporary read.

  • In reply to Plugston_of_Undershot
    gammaovertheta's picture

    Plugston_of_Undershot wrote:
    Plato was concerned about the manliness of the next generation back in Greek antiquity. Of course unlike Plato, OP has probably not achieved anything in his life that gives his views on manliness any legitimacy or authority.

    Haha I fucking loved that.

    This is one of the lamest threads I've seen on WSO. From some of these theories a spectator would think this site is meant for mediocre English majors more than aspiring bankers. It doesn't help that it sounds like all the OP does is watch Bo-flex commercials and fantasize about what a vagina feels like in real life

  • UFOinsider's picture

    Agree with the poetry / philosophy part of conversation: people who act 'too' gay or straight are rarely sincere, just seeking attention. That having been said, culture is the hallmark of fully developed, multidimensional people. Before the Romans came along, Athens conquered Sparta.

    Get busy living

  • R0bin's picture

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    Baby you're the perfect shape, baby you're the perfect weight. Treat me like my birthday, I want it this way and I want it that way. It makes a man feel good baby.

  • Human's picture

    OP: Answer to your question.

    "I am the hero of the story. I don't need to be saved."

  • vik2012's picture

    I think we live at the times when role of both men and women in the society has changed due to women being more competitive (and i have to add, being able to perform most jobs as good as men do) and willing to work, and men who are willing not to work and stay home, or sometimes its just a better way for the families. In any case, if you are calling this process puss...n, i guess there is another one- dic...n that applies to women. And I do strongly believe that because of this change, because of so many men who act like women, and vise versa- women who perform duties of men, and come on too strong and aggressive, we are, in some way, loosing value as a society.
    PS: to be a real man you don't need to hunt mammoths, you just have to be a man at all times

    nb

  • In reply to Human
    CanadianPositiveCarry's picture

    Human wrote:
    OP: Answer to your question.

    Watching this was fucking painful, fml,what's wrong with some guys? Sean Connery ftw

  • Whgm45's picture

    There's a lot of dainty men in finance. Bankers especially, I don't know why. Just makes it easier for those of us who aren't IMO

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