Endemic, economic collapse, worldwide government overreach, and deep community divides

All this and finance bros are still focused on the rat race of getting money they don't have time to enjoy, living in a large city completely dependent on the consistency of the rest of society for survival, and more worried about their late night MD emails than their own health.Shit is about to hit the motherfucking fan and the size of your account or the quality of leather on your penny loafers isn't going to matter.It's time to wake up and smell the acid deteriorating our fragile social fabric.Push yourselves to learn more outside your field, how to be independent thinkers, and how to be independent. The world is going to come to a vicious halt, very soon. I wish I could say when, how, and why, but I simply do not know. All I know, is I'll be ready when it happens.No, I'm not talking about doomsday prepping. Your silly bomb huts and assault rifles won't protect you against assault drones, manufactured viruses, and grid tracking.I'm talking about being able to be a true, independent man/woman. Learning how to make the meaningful connections with people for mutual benefits. Understanding how your house, your car, your food, your survival is successfully maintained. The world is interconnected now, and we can learn all this while we can.But someday, it won't be.

 

After COVID, I will never do anything but laugh at doomsday preppers, specifically the Republican types.  They had their chance to show us their survival skills, and oh boy did they blow it.

In counties where former President Donald Trump received at least 70% of the vote in the 2020 presidential election, COVID-19 has killed about 47 out of every 100,000 people since the end of June, health care analyst Charles Gaba tells the New York Times. But in counties where Trump won less than 32% of the vote, the number is a fraction of that — about 10 out of 100,000.

You are very correct in the sense that unity and not fantasies of shooting UN soldiers and looters is the way to overcome a crisis.  You're wrong about "shit is about to hit the fan", predicting the next bubble has become so common that is a business in and of itself.

 

I'm not laughing at the ones who died, I'm just saying the ones who brag about survival skills are the ones most likely to be spreading deadly diseases to old ladies.  Makes it hard to take anything they say seriously ever again

 

First off it's worth noting that you didn't cite the source, which makes it impossible for anyone to assess the validity of this.

Now assuming that you are correct, doesn't it seem like these numbers are cherry picked? 32%? How do the numbers look at 20% or 40%?

And even if you if believe the data is correct and you don't see the data as cherry picked there are a whole hosts of other factors that need to be examined

To my knowledge every county where Trump received 70+% of the vote is a small village or rural area, whereas almost if not every county where Trump received less than 32% of the vote is a large metropolitan area.

Needless to say there are big factors such as age, obesity, access to proper healthcare, etc. that are much more indicative of death compared to party affiliation that are highly correlated with the Trump counties as opposed to Biden counties. 

Also worth noting 47 deaths out of 100,000 is a 99.953% survival rate, so I would say those Trumpies survived quite well actually. 

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Using a benchmark like 32% is wholly inappropriate for a major news publication. Even if it isn't true, it really creates the impression in the reader that there's potentially some county that voted 31%ish for Trump that was highly populous and performed really favorably with COVID-19. A really high leverage point that they couldn't leave on the table.

Additionally, I could go on about the high impact of the early 2020 COVID-19 cases that predominantly hit the Democratic Northeastern states, which faced high mortality because of lack of knowledge about proper COVID-19 hospital protocols (use of steroids, rheumatoid arthritis drugs, monoclonal antibodies, patient positioning on hospital beds, proper time to ventilate a patient, etc.), but I don't need to belabor that.

 
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First, on the title. Are you using "endemic" as a noun? That would be extremely rare. If it's an adjective, you're saying "endemic, economic collapse," in which case I don't understand to what you refer. If you're bemoaning COVID-19 as an endemic illness, I don't think it's going to be too horribly impactful on an ongoing basis, so why mention that it's endemic? I'll grant the last two (government overreach and community divides).

Finance professionals are "bean counters" in a certain sense. It only makes sense to be an investment banker when there are businesses that are for sale (debt or equity). That is, unless you're a restructuring expert, in which case a partial, but not a total collapse of the business system would actually be a good thing for you. Same with private equity and the rest. Yadda yadda...

Learning things outside of one's field is always useful, so no pushback there. Independent thinking is highly valuable, except it often is just the Facebook scare maxim du jour, in which case I would question the independence of the thinking in the first place.

Saying that bad things will happen in the future without knowing when they will happen is not prognostication, it's dread. Dread doesn't make your life better. It doesn't make you more prepared for an actual apocalypse scenario (chronic stress will weaken you like nothing else). Dread dullens your senses, not enhance them.

Let's deconstruct what we mean when we say "doomsday prepping." In the grand scheme of things, I would say that this encompasses any kind of preparation action that one takes for an apocalyptic scenario. You esteem intellectual independence, sociability, and understanding the inner workings of one's house, nutrition, and health. Those are all fine preparations for an apocalyptic scenario, so in this context, I think they can accurately be called "doomsday preparation." And all of these things are fine goals on their own in the absence of preparing for a "doomsday." Who wouldn't want to get along better with people or live healthier lives?

Manufacturing viruses, siccing assault drones on people, and tracking people over the internet are actions that likely only a state-level actor could take. On why this is mostly true, look at terror organizations in the Middle East; they don't generally use drones to attack other people. It's more of a unilateral thing against them. I think bio-hackery types could theoretically do quite a bit of damage on the virus side, so I'll grant that it wouldn't take a state to pull that one off. Tracking people over the internet in a police state is not practical from an individual hacker's perspective, because they lack the force to actually coerce the people they've tracked. This too is state territory. If you think about the United States, it doesn't particularly have an incentive to use assault drones on its own people or manufacture a virus targeted toward the American public, so any threats to Americans must be from abroad. When the US gets an economic cold, other countries get Stage IV pancreatic cancer, so what incentive is there in bringing about that collapse from the abroad side?

The problem: I don't know that these negative outcomes are even cohesively linked. If a state-level actor made a genocidal virus, what people could be governed through grid tracking? What would the purpose of that tactic be? It's important to know how "your car... is successfully maintained," but a genocidal virus would have caused the collapse of the gasoline supply chain already. You may know how to replace the suspension all on your own, but what use is that knowledge unless you have gasoline? Is the answer typical doomsday prepper hoarding? I think yes. Gasoline has a short shelf life, so you buy some stabilizer and call it a day. There, you have two years worth of driving from the time of collapse. You say that bomb huts won't protect you against "assault drones," but that's precisely how most drones currently work anyway. It has an explosive payload and you hide from the explosives if you want to live. Either that or hope someone else who resembles you is an aid worker taking water to kids, right (dark joke, I know)?

I have a very common refrain: "if you've got 25X your annual spend in VTSAX, but can't be bothered to spend some money on extra food supplies or supply chain robustness, then you're an enormous fool."

At the end of the day, this is an internally inconsistent fever dream, not a prognostication or advice. Improve yourself and develop robustness for your lifestyle, but don't let it occupy your thoughts more than necessary. I'm the kind of guy who has a much more robust lifestyle than most people, but I always do it with a smile on my face. :)

 
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I already have a plan to deal with my neighbors and get their resources in a panic scenario.

why don't you work something out with them so you can all share resources/materials/ammo?

Quant (ˈkwänt) n: An expert, someone who knows more and more about less and less until they know everything about nothing.
 

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