I know I am going to be flamed for this by the "If you don't go to H/S/W put a gun in your mouth right this minute" crowd, but this is my situation and I need advice. I am particularly interetsed int he commentary of those from SE Michigan (particularly those with jobs).
Long story short, I graduated recently from a semi-target school with a low GPA (~3.05). I am working at a broker/dealer in the back office, where I do a lot of document imaging, a ot of filing, a lot of printing trade blotters, and a lot of compliance/ registration work. I hate my job.
Today, I was accepted into the Walsh College MSF program, which seems to be a somewhat respected, albeith very small business college in SE Michigan (Comments on this assertion are welcomed). From what I can tell from a few websites (U of I and UF), MSF programs in general don't accept transfer credits, so I am a little leery of taking the courses, getting the degree, and then finding out that the college is shit on by employers.
I have two options within the college. I can go all the way (like 12 classes), or I can get a certificate after 3 classes (non-degree). Either way I have access to career services, and either way I take the same class(es) this semester. My thoughts are that it makes sense to take at least a few classes to show improvement in GPA through graduate work, even if it doesnt end up being the school I graduate from.
Based on my GPA and work experience, I don't really see myself getting into any more prestigous programs this year, but I could be wrong.
That is my basic plan, and I would love any comments you have on it.
Also, I believe I have a 50/50 shot at a quantitative analysis job modeling default rates in the city of Detroit, but I won't know for a few weeks.
1) Thanks for the post, I can now add another school to the MSF list
2) I have never heard of the school, but I think there are better MSF programs in that area.
www.msfhq.com
I know this is long after the original post, but I figured this would be a good update for those visiting this post from here on out.
Wayne State now has a MSF program that can be completed part-time or full-time. This is a convenient option for those married to the Detroit market, plus Wayne has recently put a ton of resources into their business school and facilities in Midtown Detroit.
https://ilitchbusiness.wayne.edu/finance/masters-requirements.php
You appear to be fairly knowledgeable in MSF programs around the country, yet you offered literally zero pieces of information except for the fact that there might be better programs in the area. Which programs? Do they admit people with my GPA and work experience?
bump...anyone?
Not quite sure what you're after here...if you want a shot at a new job, then it would obviously help. If you want an investment banking job, well, you're not going to get it coming from there. Sorry to be blunt, but it's likely the truth, even though I hope not for your sake.
HAHHAHHA
This is the first monkey shit I have had thrown at me for in forever.
Car Ramrod: Thank you, I appreciate the bluntness.
Anthony: I'm not sure why you are surprised, that was literally the least helpful post I think I have ever read on this site, from a supposed expert no less.
To clarify, what I'm after is a way to improve my situation. I would like to be in investment banking eventually, and I had envisioned myself making the jump after my MBA. To get into a worthy MBA program, I am trying to get a better job. To get a better job, I am trying to start off in a MSF program, take a couple classes, and maybe transfer to a better program in a little bit. I am open to commentary on this plan.
If there are better programs that I could get into with my stats, I would love to hear about them. If anyone has any experience transferring programs, I would love to hear about it. Hopefully that response would include the name of the program, not just the fact that better programs exist (no shit).
It is an unheard of MSF. Look at umich Dearborn if you want a Detroit area MSF. I apologize for not holding your hand. UIUC, Purdue, DePaul, are all area MSF degrees. Your GPA is pretty low. Either try for the job in Detroit, put in some time and do an MBA or look at other MSF programs.
First off, now that I understand that you are using the word "area" to describe campuses more than 6 hours away, your post makes a lot more sense. In fact I have been researching Depaul, and UIUC, I just couldn't imagine that they were included in the word "area"
Secondly, and this is the reason I was looking for input from people familiar with the area (if there are any on the boards), I think its open to debate whether or not UM-Dearborn is better than Walsh, which seems to have a pretty decent reputation in the area. Is your point that it is more recognizable outside the area?
What I was thinking about was using at least some of the coursework from the MSF degree (I'm starting at night so it will take me years to complete) to get myself into a boutique in the Detroit area, and then using my work experience and coursework (hopefully with better grades than ugrad) to get into a better MSF program in a financial hub.
Yes, area is pretty wide. Unfortunately, Detroit is not Boston (which has many MSF programs within close proximity). If you are married to Detroit I would probably just try and take some MBA level finance classes to augment your UG. The UM Dearborn is not tops by any means, but it is part of the UMich system and more widely known than Walsh.
An MSF is great, but it really isn't a deal breaker. I would probably focus more on networking and working hard than trying to add more letters after your name. If you are serious about Walsh make sure you get placement stats before you do anything.
UofM Dearborn specific tution
http://www.umd.umich.edu/rr_tuition-fees-2010-2011/
Hello again,
sorry to post a third time but I forgot to address the fact that networking is probably way more important (i'm sure it is) than the paper.. as Ant said.
I see that first hand from my brother in law that just got a fat job out in Philly making about 100K.. for not doing much. And he has a bachelors from the University of Phoenix.. lol.
He worked at Quicken and his boss there left for the job at philly.. and then got him in. He was making about 60K at quicken.
So..
my opinion.. is to do both.. network like you school. and do both the best you can
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