Why are there no women at Apollo?
Looking through LinkedIn, very difficult to find any women working there at any level. Is that true and if so why? How many women are there in their PE associate classes?
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No. No women. Only men. Apollo is no girls allowed. You didn't know?
Is this a joke lol? Maybe I was wrong, I just didn't see any on LinkedIn...
I can confirm there are women working there. One of the girls in the year above me is there now
I was being VERY sarcastic.... obviously there are women at Apollo.... I know a girl who’s an associate on the PE team and another in Credit (anecdotal, but I’m sure there are more).
If this isn't a joke, why is that the case? Do they just avoid hiring women for some reason? Do they interview but not give offers? Or do they just not interview many women in the first place?
Yes. They think women have cooties and you should bring a lawsuit against them for sexism.
PE is an absurdly male-dominated industry. Go to the website of any private equity firm and you'll find a similar pattern. You'll have to harness your elementary school "Where's Waldo" skills to spot the women on the team - it's no easy task. In the few cases where you do find a few women on the firm's "Team" page, you'll generally find they are in roles like Invesor Relations, HR, Executive Assistants, etc.
Take GTCR for example. A prestigious, well-known PE firm often regarded as being quite collegial compared to its counterparts.
It's pretty unlikely that a female pursing PE will look at this website and feel comfortable to work on this type of an investment team. The reasons behind this engrained gender imbalance in PE are infinite, but it comes down to this - women will generally be deterred from industries and companies that are highly male-dominated. And while lots of industries like tech and consulting have made efforts to fix this over the years, PE has done next to nothing.
jesus this is terrible. Given that banking analyst classes are pretty evenly split 50-50 male-female, where do females end up going after if not PE? I can't imagine it's better on the HF side
corp dev, hf, am, mm/lmm pe
CD&R has a pretty diverse team
Not really... If you filter for those on the North American Investment teams, you'll find that there are 49 Investment Professionals total, and only 4 are women. That's 8% - still insanely low.
Filter by their Ops or IR teams though, and it's nearly all women. I wasn't a stats major or anything but that disparity seems pretty statistically significant to me lol.
Most PE firms are very white but asians don't seem to have a problem with that/break in at about their level of representation in analyst classes. I would also argue there is a greater cultural gap b/w a typical asian applicant and their waspy counterparts than between waspy men and waspy women (they literally grew up together). Seems to me this is more of an applicant issue than a hiring one. Firms are desperate to hire women in fact.
Likely a problem with the workstyle and culture in the industry thats not very attractive for them. Not everyone wants to do PE after IB anyway. Although with more women going into banking perhaps soon PE will be that way too
I’m hopeful it will be that way but your cavalier “soon it will be that way” warrants a [citation needed]
I worked at a small, primarily female investment firm, and it’s not without a distinct set of challenges, though perhaps that warrants a discussion about whether change comes about through an increasing number of female firms competing in a male industry, or gender shift within establishment firms.
Sure, it will likely take a while as the finance industry in general is changing, and its important not to force the change too quick. Soon may not be the right term.
On top of the fact that PE is a very male-dominated industry, Apollo also has a really intense / cutthroat culture (there was a popular thread on here recently about this topic), which probably isn't a very sustainable or encouraging working environment that would attract the few females who do cross over to PE.
What do you expect:
Umm while I'm sure this comment is well-intentioned, this right here is the problem - assuming that women are responsible for taking care of their families while men go to their PE jobs and put food on the table.
With proper maternity and paternity leave policies in place, no workplace should find itself inherently precluding the employment of women because of its "brutal culture". I'm not sure what Apollo's policies around this are like, but given the rest of the company's culture I imagine their family policies are probably quite outdated and archaic.
Lol social engineering 101. Paternity leave has been shown to not shrink the gap esp. in jobs where you can work remotely (research was done on uni professors). So the social engineers are now saying paternity + freeze/block all firm communication. They would rather lower gdp (stop everyone from working) than have higher growth but more inequity despite one partner working being pareto optimal bc no one loses wealth/npv.
This is also my point. This can also apply to a situation where a female is providing for the family. Do you think Apollo will support a female during her pregnancy, given how brutal the culture is?
yeah apollo isn't going to have proper maternity or paternity policies
A chick isn't down to work 80-100 hours in a week..they just marry the PE guys who do (and also make $$$)...
What the fuck lol
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