Allen & Co. vs GS vs MS
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on 1/30/11 at 6:50pm
I have several options, and have narrowed down to GS, MS and Allen, eliminating UBS, Citi and JPM.
So, GS vs MS vs Allen...which one would you choose?
GS - Enough said. Baller but has bad public perception.
MS - On par with GS. Great reputation and exit opps.
Allen - Small but prestigious. Top guys are very well connected.
Advices? Thanks!





I would go with GS. Allen &
I would go with GS. Allen & Co is very prestigious but if you want to go into PE/HF later on I think GS is the way to go. For Business school I have no idea, Allen & Co might be seen as more unique and thus "better" but frankly I don't know. Either way congrats on the offers
Are they the GS/MS tech
Are they the GS/MS tech offices?
Chances are, I won't get into
Chances are, I won't get into GS/MS TMT. I will more likely be placed in the GS natural resources group b/c I know a lot of ppl there and some other group in MS. So I'm comparing non TMT groups in GS/MS vs Allen.
Btw, I made the right choice
Btw, I made the right choice to choose Allen over Citi/UBS/etc right?
ihe123 wrote: Btw, I made the
Btw, I made the right choice to choose Allen over Citi/UBS/etc right?
I personally wouldn't have eliminated Citi and JPM. But you're not going to go wrong either way.
I'm talking about liquid. Rich enough to have your own jet. Rich enough not to waste time. Fifty, a hundred million dollars, buddy. A player. Or nothing.
Either way, all are great
Either way, all are great places to work. What you need to consider is your long term career goals, industry interests, and the people that work at each shop. If you're really interested in tech or media, Allen is an incredible place to be (as is GS TMT, but you said you didn't think you could get in). If you're not sure what you want to do, go with either GS or MS just for the widely known brand value, it really doesn't matter which - make your decision on your probable group placement, as well as your feelings about the people at each place.
- Capt K -
"Prestige is like a powerful magnet that warps even your beliefs about what you enjoy. If you want to make ambitious people waste their time on errands, bait the hook with prestige." - Paul Graham
Flip a coin and move on. All
Flip a coin and move on. All 3 are amazing.
If this was Allen vs. Moelis vs. Greenhill vs. Lazard vs Blackstone M&A, it would be Allen hands down.
But its Allen vs GS vs MS. Toss a coin. You're splitting hairs.
Damn dude, that's very
Damn dude, that's very impressive. Just go where you feel you'll be the happiest working.
If you want to work in IDM
If you want to work in IDM then yes, Allen kills in that space
Allen & Co. is pretty exotic
Allen & Co. is pretty exotic and baller... If you're interested in that space it could be a sick place to start. I'd normally say GS by default, but natural res doesn't seem (to me, at least) like that interesting a group...
You've got a lot of wonderful choices... you can't really go wrong.
If you like the space, which
If you like the space, which it seems you might, since you mentioned GS TMT, then go with Allen.
If you would choose GS TMT over anything else, then call GS and ask them what group they would put you in because you have a lot of options and need clarity on that in order to make a more informed decision. They might be too bureaucratic to give you an answer, and if this rubs you the wrong way, then I'd also recommend Allen because they are smaller and you won't have to deal with a lot of the BS you have to when you work at a big firm.
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Dude, I'm going to just say
Dude,
I'm going to just say go Allen & Co. Although your options are good, Allen and Co. is by far the best name on the list you have. I'll take all the flak right now, but even if you are not interested in the TMT Space, getting a Gig at Allen and Co. will help you much more in the long run that you would expect. Disregard what everyone is saying about the PE/HF world, but Allen and Co. will put you in with the top firms, moreso than GS would, particularly if your focus was TMT. In the TMT world, Allen is where its at, over any other firm. Hell, their Sun Valley Conference is widely respected as the biggest tech conference there is without any CES/Apple WWDC type major reveal panache to it.
I would take Allen & Co if I were you. I think it's the better deal over all the other shops. A big name is good, but a specialized name is better.
Awesome choices, Can I ask a
Awesome choices,
Can I ask a lil info on your background?
It could be noted that last
It could be noted that last year ('09) Allen had one first year analyst, and he lateralled for his second year to GS.
chuckles02912 wrote: It could
It could be noted that last year ('09) Allen had one first year analyst, and he lateralled for his second year to GS.
He's not in GS IBD though.
Its also important to note,
Holy shit. Those are some
Curious as to what you chose.
SA or FT? If FT, Allen would
Curious as well. Where did
Frieds wrote: Dude, Hell,
I chose GS. Don't want to go
Olympus123 wrote: Frieds
Oh, I'm aware of that fact.
True. But I heard their deal
Before this gets any further,
ihe123 wrote: Before this
On an absolute basis, I would
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^ One of the best, and imo
^agreed, HarvardEcon has it
Excellent post HarvardEcon!
Can we please get your
Sorry, I do not wish to
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is it me or i just cant find
oldmansacks wrote: is it me