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I've never owned a nice suit, ever. The nicest I've ever owned is a black Banana Republic one I found on sale a few years ago. I'm starting a new gig soon so I want to have at least 2 nice suits. Last night I took a trip to Brooks Brothers outlets outside of Philly and was able to buy 1 charcoalish (more of a dark grey) and one navy blue with light stripe accents for about $465 (buy 2 for $579-15% if you start a card with them).

Today when I tried em on again I didn't quite like em so I took a quick trip to the mall to return them but store was close to me closed down. I saw a Hugo Boss at the mall and decided to check it out. One of sales guy showed me a couple of his suits and I fell in love. Dark grey suit and the jacket and pants fit me like they were designed specifically for me, price tag read $995 or $955. I've never had a suit fit me and one that looked that good on me before but I remembered how HB has a bad rep on WSO so I told the guy I would be back in Tuesday to pick em up.

Now I am not that insecure that I need a forum to tell me what to wear but it's safe to say I don't know much about how to dress professionally and I'm hoping a few more educated members could point me in the right direction. The suit was slightly flashy but not so over the top that i looked like I was working at some hip marketing firm (Mad Men). I want to stand out from the rest of my coworkers but I don't want to pretend I'm a VP and end up looking like a dbag.

So anyways I'm just wondering if dropping $1000 on a HB suit is worth it, I'm sort of in a hurry too since my job starts soon and I don't have anything to wear. I'll be headed to BOYDS in Philly tomorrow as well just to see what they have to offer but I know they will be even more expensive.

Also, I placed an order for these Allen Edmonds today and was wondering if anyone could comment:
http://www.endless.com/dp/B001TDKY62?ie=UTF8&ie=UTF8

THANKS!

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Comments (52)

  • frank_reynolds's picture

    its an upgrade from banana republic for sure, but you can definitely do much better at that price point from a quality of construction/tailoring/etc perspective

    if you like it though, go for it.

  • MistaBooks's picture

    Don't wear it. If you looking to go cheap, at least grab something from Jos A Bank

  • ballmouse's picture

    Fifth Ave shoes were a good call. You should't be able to get better than a $1000 Hugo Boss suit. But you do more than likely need a tailor, so you should keep in mind that it will take some time to tailor.

  • APAE's picture

    Get a real Brooks Brothers suit. The problem with outlets is that they have fabrics and models specifically designed as downmarket. They're boxier, less well-made, and uglier. If you're super happy with the Boss fit, get a Fitzgerald or Madison. Brooks makes them as their slimmer lines. Check out the 'Men's Clothing' section of styleforum.com if you need major pointers.

    Good call on the AEs.. that's a very standard model. I have it in walnut calf.

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  • purplenurple's picture

    For what it's worth, I needed to get a new suit, so I got that same one (black) with a couple of their shirts and like it all a lot. I'm 6 ft 5 in and 200 lbs so it's hard to find a suit that fits well. After minor adjustment from the tailor, it fits perfect.

  • linds_15's picture

    for 1000 you can do much better than HB, i wouldnt buy a boss suit but if i did i wouldnt spend more than 400 on one, you can get way better construction than what they offer for that price

  • In reply to APAE
    equity_player's picture

    A Posse Ad Esse:
    Get a real Brooks Brothers suit. The problem with outlets is that they have fabrics and models specifically designed as downmarket. They're boxier, less well-made, and uglier. If you're super happy with the Boss fit, get a Fitzgerald or Madison. Brooks makes them as their slimmer lines. Check out the 'Men's Clothing' section of styleforum.com if you need major pointers.

    Good call on the AEs.. that's a very standard model. I have it in walnut calf.

    Thanks for the suggestion I'm going to BB tomorrow to return the ones I have and I'll check out the ones you mentioned. The HB fit well on me because it was a really slim fit and I'm pretty thin.

    P.S. Ya those AE's in walnut look freaking GORGEOUS! They would look ahmazing with a nice pair of jean and matching leather jacket.

  • In reply to linds_15
    equity_player's picture

    linds_15:
    for 1000 you can do much better than HB, i wouldnt buy a boss suit but if i did i wouldnt spend more than 400 on one, you can get way better construction than what they offer for that price

    Would you mind giving me a couple of examples? Like I mentioned in my OP I'm headed to BOYDS tomorrow (upscale boutique in philly) so I'll check out some canali's and hickey freeman's,

  • PossumBelly's picture

    I think BB is extremely overpriced for the quality. You can get a Hickey-Freeman (not to be confused with hickey w/ a lower case h), Martin Greenfield, or even Canali for way less than a BB via sites like Gilt or Nordstrom sales.

    My HF, which i got for $599, is vastly superior to my Fitzgerald from BB.

  • LIBOR's picture

    If you have money to spend, and are in need of a good suit, spend the time and resources to really find a good one. Are you in a big city where its easy to find nice stores? Do you have your own tailor? Before you drop money on a name, find out what makes a suit good. The fabric, the stitching, the buttons, the cut, everything.

    If you are spending that kind of money anyway, maybe look into hiring a personal shopper from the store to work with you. Personal shoppers can work with your price range to find the best looking suit for the best value. If you are like most people (which you are since you are posting on here), you are probably clueless about the whole process. Working with a personal shopper from the store will give you insight into the things you need to look for in a good suit.

  • Donni502's picture

    Don't listen to these schmucks, HB is cool - my favourite suit is my grey HB.

  • In reply to equity_player
    APAE's picture

    equity_player:
    A Posse Ad Esse:
    Thanks for the suggestion I'm going to BB tomorrow to return the ones I have and I'll check out the ones you mentioned. The HB fit well on me because it was a really slim fit and I'm pretty thin.

    P.S. Ya those AE's in walnut look freaking GORGEOUS! They would look ahmazing with a nice pair of jean and matching leather jacket.

    You won't be able to find 'real' Brooks suit at an outlet. Everything at the outlets is the 346 line which isn't even stocked in traditional Brooks stores, it's a down-market line.

    I got the walnut to match a belt I picked up before I left Florence last spring, it's kinda an FU statement in the office together haha.

    Agree with others that there are far better suits for the money. Never pay retail, because every single store has multiple periods during the year when you can pay far less for the same item. Go to stores and try to familiarize yourself with different brands so you know how they fit and can cop something online (i.e. Gilt) when they come up or you see a doorbuster sale at a store -- you don't have to waste time figuring out which size you are.

    RLBL and RLPL are great options too, albeit out of his price range a bit if he's looking only at Brooks outlets and Boss.

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  • Jimage's picture

    Find a good tailor. As you go through life you will realize that very few clothes will fit you off the rack. A good tailor is a game changer. He will help you find your style and make fitting suggestions as well.

  • In reply to Donni502
    NordicBanker's picture

    Donni502:
    Don't listen to these schmucks, HB is cool - my favourite suit is my grey HB.

    Agree. I like my Hugo Boss suits. They wear well and it is never a problem getting new spare pants in the same color when they wear out. The grey and navy ones will never be discontinued, so I just call up my local store and they have my alteration details. Pick up new pants 3 days later with smaller openings at the bottom and slightly shorter legs. If you are going to start in IB, just buy whatever is easiest to replace. Going to wear through 4-5 pants a year.

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  • In reply to equity_player
    DNOsaur's picture

    equity_player:
    A Posse Ad Esse:
    Get a real Brooks Brothers suit. The problem with outlets is that they have fabrics and models specifically designed as downmarket. They're boxier, less well-made, and uglier. If you're super happy with the Boss fit, get a Fitzgerald or Madison. Brooks makes them as their slimmer lines. Check out the 'Men's Clothing' section of styleforum.com if you need major pointers.

    Good call on the AEs.. that's a very standard model. I have it in walnut calf.

    Thanks for the suggestion I'm going to BB tomorrow to return the ones I have and I'll check out the ones you mentioned. The HB fit well on me because it was a really slim fit and I'm pretty thin.

    P.S. Ya those AE's in walnut look freaking GORGEOUS! They would look ahmazing with a nice pair of jean and matching leather jacket.

    I worked at brooks during school and summer, and above is correct with the factory suits. The clothing there si cheaper, but reflected in the quality. Also skip on the Madison cut and go fitzgerald. Madison is boxier, and Regent and Fitzgerald are the slimmer cut suits. Also, if you want to cut back on cost, just get the brooks card, get the 15% off, and pay of the balance immediately. Then just don't use the card again. Just keep it, they send you a free $20 gift card on your birthday every year, so its worth it just to have it.

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  • linds_15's picture

    in reference to what i said before, theres much better brands for 1000, in perticular id go with a canali, bb fitz, rlbl, isaia, for staters. whats most important is to find a brand and cut that fits you well, if you're a bigger guy than a rlbl just wont be right for you. personally i find canali fits me best, and im always on the lookout for some jackets or suits onsale seeing as i dont need any but know they fit me best.
    you should go to a store with a wide selection and just try on a bunch of different suits til you find one you love, if it happens to be boss then great, but know youre paying more than you should for it, at retail at least

  • In reply to DNOsaur
    APAE's picture

    DNOsaur:
    equity_player:
    A Posse Ad Esse:
    Get a real Brooks Brothers suit. The problem with outlets is that they have fabrics and models specifically designed as downmarket. They're boxier, less well-made, and uglier. If you're super happy with the Boss fit, get a Fitzgerald or Madison. Brooks makes them as their slimmer lines. Check out the 'Men's Clothing' section of styleforum.com if you need major pointers.

    Good call on the AEs.. that's a very standard model. I have it in walnut calf.

    Thanks for the suggestion I'm going to BB tomorrow to return the ones I have and I'll check out the ones you mentioned. The HB fit well on me because it was a really slim fit and I'm pretty thin.

    P.S. Ya those AE's in walnut look freaking GORGEOUS! They would look ahmazing with a nice pair of jean and matching leather jacket.

    I worked at brooks during school and summer, and above is correct with the factory suits. The clothing there si cheaper, but reflected in the quality. Also skip on the Madison cut and go fitzgerald. Madison is boxier, and Regent and Fitzgerald are the slimmer cut suits. Also, if you want to cut back on cost, just get the brooks card, get the 15% off, and pay of the balance immediately. Then just don't use the card again. Just keep it, they send you a free $20 gift card on your birthday every year, so its worth it just to have it.

    I always forget which Brooks lines are slimmest ... why can't it be like their shirts ... 'Extra Slim Fit' is straightforward enough dammit. Madison is the ugly boxy one, that's right .. got it mixed up with Milano because I have some of those chinos that actually came close to fitting OTR. Fucking alliteration got me.

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  • makeyourownluck's picture

    HB is a solid analyst suit, I own five of them and they have held up quite well through almost 2 years. Long run you'd probably want to get nicer suits but overall I have had a solid experience with these suits. I have the Jam Sharp, for a slim guy they work well.

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  • Otter.'s picture

    I agree with most people above - it's not that it's a particularly bad suit, it's just not a particularly good suit. I have tried them on many times and am always underwhelmed and a little surprised at the price. If you can find one on clearance and you like the styling and fit, then go for it. It's a perfectly fine entry level suit, just not fantastic value.

    If you're intending to spend in the 700-1000 range, it might be worth looking into some of the entry-level MTM places like Suit Supply or something. I have no experience with them at all, but I've read that they're pretty good for the money.

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  • prnz's picture

    Just bought two Brooks Brothers suits today, so I'll lend my thoughts to the discussion...

    First thing I did today was go to Morris & Sons, one of the last remaining true menswear stores in Chicago. The store carries top of the line brands such as Kiton, Brioni, etc. Their intro suit brand is Hugo Boss.

    Not wanting to spend $1,500+ on a Caruso suit, I decided to go with the Hugo Boss. The tailor came out, pinned and chalked as necessary to alter the suit. But after all was said and done, there was something off with the righthand suit of the jacket, near my chest. The the righthand side was asymmetrical with the lefthand side. No one bothered to point this out to me, but fortunately I noticed it. I enquired about this and was told that this was due to the construction of the jacket. Hugo Boss suits are fused, not canvassed. Therefore, the jacket was lying improperly due to its construction. The problem didn't exist on the lefthand side because of the breast pocket.

    I decided then to walk out of the store. I caught a cab and went to Brooks Brothers.

    Yes unfortunately their suits aren't cut as slim as the Hugo Boss suits are. But they are fully canvassed, and I think the quality of the materials is superior.

    The MSRP of the Hugo Boss suit I tried on was $890. Brooks Brothers suits retail at ~$900 - $1,100 and if you buy two, they sell for $800 per.

    The other thing I will say is that a fused suit is likely to not last as long as a canvassed suit. Fused construction basically means that the jacket is glued together. With a canvassed suit, their is a hidden inner layer that holds the jacket together. The problem with a fused jacket is that the glue can loosen. This will cause bubbles to appear under the fabric and the jacket will look like shit. This can happen from your jacket getting wet or from your dry cleaner pressing it too often / too hot. This happened to me on one of my Hugo Boss jackets. Fortunately, my dry cleaner was able to fix it but I am afraid that it is only a matter of time before the problem comes back.

  • TechBanking's picture

    If you liike them, wait for Hugo Boss to have a sale. They usually have great discounts (at least they used to).

    I used to ask an employee when their big seasonal sales were and then come back and get suits then. I was able to get a few over the years for ~$400-600. I really like the way their suits fit me, and I always got compliments when I wore them for meetings so it's not like the suits don't fit some arbitrary what is apporpriate in IBD criteria.

    That said, I'm glad that I never wear suits anymore.

  • kraken's picture

    Get whatever you feel comfortable with.
    If you have second thoughts, whatever, buy a new suit... that way they will last longer.

  • TNA's picture

    I have a Hugo suit that I've had for about 8 years now. Solid construction, nice fit, no issues. If it looks and fits well, get it. Buy yourself a steamer and steam your suits. Dry clean like once or twice a year, no more. Get at least 5 suits and rotate them. I rarely wear a suit anymore, but unless you beat the shit out of it you shouldn't have an issue.

  • Warhead's picture

    Anyone who says Hugo boss is good quality or has good construction knows nothing about suits. My mom used to make suits in factories in China and was able to immediately tell that a HB $1000 is not as well made as one of the BB fully canvassed suits. Doesn't fit? get a it tailored. Good construction/material is more important (just make sure it fits your shoulders). If you're willing to drop 1k on a suit, might as well look into Polo suits too. Most of their stuff isn't terribly good quality but their suits and sports coats are usually made by corneliani (see if they say made in italy inside. if they do, it's corneliani). RLBL makes the best slim fit suits for their price AFAIK.

    You can probably find the best deals over at styleforum's buying and selling section.

  • Maplewoody's picture

    Brook Brothers' 25% off Suit Sale
    is starting this Friday if you have a BB charge card.

  • bears1208's picture

    You can get suits made for you for around 1000 bucks. Do that, don't buy anything off the rack.

  • yevgenii's picture

    equity_player:
    I've never owned a nice suit, ever. The nicest I've ever owned is a black Banana Republic one I found on sale a few years ago. I'm starting a new gig soon so I want to have at least 2 nice suits. Last night I took a trip to Brooks Brothers outlets outside of Philly and was able to buy 1 charcoalish (more of a dark grey) and one navy blue with light stripe accents for about $465 (buy 2 for $579-15% if you start a card with them).

    Today when I tried em on again I didn't quite like em so I took a quick trip to the mall to return them but store was close to me closed down. I saw a Hugo Boss at the mall and decided to check it out. One of sales guy showed me a couple of his suits and I fell in love. Dark grey suit and the jacket and pants fit me like they were designed specifically for me, price tag read $995 or $955. I've never had a suit fit me and one that looked that good on me before but I remembered how HB has a bad rep on WSO so I told the guy I would be back in Tuesday to pick em up.

    Now I am not that insecure that I need a forum to tell me what to wear but it's safe to say I don't know much about how to dress professionally and I'm hoping a few more educated members could point me in the right direction. The suit was slightly flashy but not so over the top that i looked like I was working at some hip marketing firm (Mad Men). I want to stand out from the rest of my coworkers but I don't want to pretend I'm a VP and end up looking like a dbag.

    So anyways I'm just wondering if dropping $1000 on a HB suit is worth it, I'm sort of in a hurry too since my job starts soon and I don't have anything to wear. I'll be headed to BOYDS in Philly tomorrow as well just to see what they have to offer but I know they will be even more expensive.

    Also, I placed an order for these Allen Edmonds today and was wondering if anyone could comment:
    http://www.endless.com/dp/B001TDKY62?ie=UTF8&ie=UTF8

    THANKS!

    Hugo Boss was making Nazi uniforms during WW2 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-15008682
    Also they decreased their quality during 2009 http://www.forbes.com/2009/07/30/hugo-boss-quality...

    I myself bought their suit "The Journey/Sharp2WE" torn up twice completely on the back side of the pants (buttocks) on the seams on my way to important meetings.
    Not because it was small or something, cause I have Strellson and Cristian Berg with the same size, but because it was made in Bulgaria, and HB QC there probably sucks big time.
    More over when I reported this directly to HB, they dried me up with stupid responces and pin-pongs to the shop where I bought it.
    Then completely stopped replying to my queries for 3 calendar months.
    After which I sent them another email and they came up with indifferent reply and a 50euros voucher that they can shove it in their a*, cause after things that I learned I will never buy even a pin to my shorts from HB.

  • Shade's picture

    I came across a HB suit that was marked down from $999 to $550. Nice Navy Blue one that fits well. Was wondering if its a good pickup at that price?

  • Shade's picture

    I came across a HB suit that was marked down from $999 to $550. Nice Navy Blue one that fits well. Was wondering if its a good pickup at that price?

  • Otter.'s picture

    Hugo Boss is not a good suit at $550. Just don't bother with them unless you get them heavily discounted. I wouldn't pay more than $250 for one, and even that would be a stretch. They just aren't good suits no matter how you look at them.

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  • Ghost14's picture

    Interesting. I guess avoid the HB.

  • moore.max's picture

    Personally, I've had good luck with HB's limited stuff. But the best suits (I find) are by far Zegna. Nice shoes, btw.

    Another nice shoe is Donald Pliner

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  • Not a wall street d bag's picture

    suit snobs. all of you. i wouldn't take style advice from a bunch of wall street d-bags.

  • redrut's picture

    I'm gonna hit you with something a little off the wall. J.Lindberg! I really like slim fitted suits but not your kind of Topman look how my drainpipe suit cuts of the circulation of my feet.

    The trousers are slightly tapered so it is the happy middle ground between the 90's aircraft hangers and the Mod's skinny delight. The suit jacket is a beautifully slim cut, need I say more.

    The material is absolutely terrific. One big problem with Boss or any huge premium brand is they use their brand at the expense of quality. I bought two HB shirts and a D&G shirt, all of which frayed at the button after 1-2months. J Lindberg suits come in both thin and thick varieties, my thinnest suit I have had for 3 years and none of the material has been damaged from overuse while the thick one feels luxurious.

    finally, the price - PS500. ($650). On top of that, I usually hit up Harvey Nicholls as they give you discounts if you ask for it. As a result I pay PS420 per suit and am convinced the only step up in quality comes from savill row

    Have a look here: http://jlindeberg.com/

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  • Carlo's picture

    I have 5 HB suits and a HB tuxedo. I have a bespoke suit made from Zegna material, but I still love my HB suits. I think of all the suits I've tried, the HB cut just fits me the best. It's a matter of personal preference, fit, feel and look.

  • ed.moseley_1's picture

    Just stumbled across a new offer from Charles Tyrwhitt for 20% off via Retailmenot... Could bag yourself a high quality British suit for $320 reduced from $399. Might be an idea.

  • Javelin's picture

    I have a HB suit and for slim fit guys I'd have to say they fit really well.

    I however would not buy it for 1,000...if you have access to an outlet that has BB, you may want to look for a Saks off 5th. They sometimes have great deals on suits and you can get Zegna, HB, Hickey and others for 50% off or buy 1 get 1.

  • Loki777's picture

    any hate on the construction of the Pasolini/movie suit? It fits great and I am under $300 where I'm at.

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    Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please.

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