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So I read this article a few minutes ago, and I wanted to share it with you guys (as well as some quotes below).
http://poetsandquants.com/2010/10/04/why-josh-kauf...

* Kaufman believes that MBA programs "teach many worthless, outdated, even outright damaging concepts and practices."

* "Business schools don't create successful people," insists Kaufman. "They simply accept them, then take credit for their success. With heavy debt loads and questionable returns, MBA programs simply aren't a good investment--they're a trap for the unwary."

* Instead of paying up to $350,000 in tuition and forgone earnings to go to Harvard, Stanford or Wharton, Kaufman says a better way to learn business is to open the pages of classic business texts and learn on your own.

* Much of Kaufman's argument rests on a study published eight years ago by Stanford Business School professor Jeffrey Pfeffer of Stanford University and Christina T. Fong of the University of Washington. The pair analyzed 40 years of data and studies and came up with a provocative and startling conclusion: "There is scant evidence that the MBA credential, particularly from non-elite schools, or the grades earned in business courses are related to either salary or the attainment of higher level positions in organizations."

* "Unless you want to be a consultant or an I-banker (where a top MBA is nothing but a screen for admission)," Godin wrote, "it's hard for me to understand why this is a better use of time and money than actual experience combined with a dedicated reading of 30 or 40 books."

* "If you want to work in an industry that uses the MBA as a screen, you are effectively buying yourself a $150,000 interview," he contends. "If you want to do anything else in business, if you want to start your own company, get a job in another field, you don't have to have an MBA. It's better if you don't because of the debt."

* And even for consulting, investment banking or Fortune 50 positions, Kaufman says, the benefit is ephemeral. "The effect (of the degree) is strongest immediately after graduation," he says, "then largely wears out within three to five years. After that, you're on your own. Hiring managers no longer care so much about where you went to school. They care more about what you've accomplished since then."

* Kaufman estimates that all of these firms combined, from Goldman Sachs to McKinsey & Co., probably hire no more than 5,000 to 10,000 MBAs a year out of the more than 200,000 people who are getting MBAs around the world. The other 190,000 to 195,000 are getting MBAs they don't really need.

* "Going to Harvard all told can cost you about $350,000. That is mortgage level debt. Put that through an amortization schedule at a 6.8% rate of interest. It's a $2,200 monthly payment over 30 years. You are spending $821,000 when you account for the interest. The cost is enormous."

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