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8/21/06

Street Prestige
1. Harvard/Yale/Princeton/Wharton/MIT/Stanford
2. Penn/Columbia/Cornell/Dartmouth/Chicago/Cal Tech
3. Brown/Berk./Duke/Hopkins
4. Northwestern/Georgetown/UVA

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8/21/06

duke and brown have better reps than chicago, at least for undergrad. nu should be one tier higher and cal tech is top tier. nyu stern should also be somewhere.

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8/21/06

I beg to differ. Street cred is similar to academic cred. Normally you would lump together Cornell, Columbia, Penn and Brown, however Cornell and Columbia et al are research powerhouse and Brown simply isn't. I went to Yale and I am tempted to knock Yale down below Cornell b/c Cornell is a research and science powerhouse. However street cred is a little different. Yale simply has more prestige b/c of admissions.

  •  8/21/06

how about non-US schools on wall street, where would they rank with those schools above? say oxford or LSE?

8/21/06

UVA should be ranked ahead of Duke. Duke is horrible...an unbiased opinion.

8/21/06

OxBridge would go on the 1.
LSE would go 2.
Westpoint,Navy go 3.
Coast Guard, Airforce, Sandhurst (Brtitsh) go 4.
Yes, I made an error, Duke should go down to the 4 space.

8/21/06

I. Caltech, MIT.
(gap)
II. Princeton, Yale, Harvard, Stanford, Oxbridge, Columbia, Chicago.
(gap)
III. Other T25s. (Including Wharton; it places very well on account of preparation, but is generally considered less prestigious than HYP.)
(gap)
IV. Respectable state schools (though Berk and Mich go into III).
(gap)
V. Everywhere else.

8/21/06

I disagree.
Refer to above

8/21/06

yea i would say this first list is pretty legit, however i think hyp gets slighly more prestige than wharton mit and stanford

8/21/06

Don't discount Michigan's B school, it is one of the best in the country, undergrad is top 5 and grad was number 1 last year. It's highly regarded over a lot of iveys because most of them dont have b schools.

8/21/06

michigan is a state school. its pretty good and i think its probably better than some ivys cause they have some amazing faculty members but our world is biased and people simply prefer private school students with similar or slightly lower academic credentials over public school students

8/21/06

i think mit and stanford stay, but wharton goes down to 2

  •  8/21/06

do people really care what school you went to after a few weeks into the job? i imagine new friendships irregardless of where you went to school are made, and your bosses won't really care where you went once they see who is really performing? or does going to harvard help overcome deficiencies even on the job?

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8/22/06

once you start it doesn't matter so much. if you when to a shitty school and outperform the stanford kid, you will be given more responsibility and eventually people won't care.

  •  8/22/06

We care because individuals from state schools tend to use words like "irregardless".

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8/22/06

This list needs some work.

I agree Georgetown kids get some opportunity but the majority of kids coming out of there - idiots. Quality of education is horrible and the business school is worse than any of the top 10 public schools with a u-grad business program.

8/23/06
8/23/06

What about the liberal arts colleges? lol

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  •  8/23/06

there is no way in one of those lists above that chicago and columbia are more prestigious than wharton.

8/23/06

does anyone know how does finsia - securities institute australia rank?

  •  8/23/06

how would lse rank compared to top US schools eg Wharton, HYP?

  •  8/23/06

in the UK its
OxBridge
LSE
Imperial ,kings...

oxbridge goes up to 1 on the 1st post
lse 2 or 3

  •  8/23/06

there are liberal arts colleges that are recruited. Pomona college comes to mind.

  •  8/23/06

i think in the UK recruitment it is first LSE, then oxbridge and then everything else. in the US its probably oxbridge and lse at the same level or LSE being slightly lower but i think oxbridge and lse all go in to 2 on wall street.

  •  8/28/06

really? lse is ahead of oxbridge in the uk? is lse well represented on street?

  •  8/28/06

OF COURSE lse is represented well.

as far as all this meticulous ranking, it seems like something paranoid asian parents would do.

8/28/06

yes, i'm paranoid: do any alums know where i can find stats about lse grads in BBs?

8/29/06

not so sure about hopkins being on the first list..isnt that place more of a great place to go for medical school

8/29/06

you can't get a list which everyone will like... everyone has different opinions. With that said, I think the OP's ranking is pretty good.

In reply to Kimbo Slice
8/30/06

caltech at #1....

12/24/06

cung9263, Finasia is not a university but a professional qualification, like CFA. On that point, CFA is much more worthwhile and more highly regarded.

12/25/06

I take a kid who is willing to work hard from a public school over a silver spoon private school kid any day of the week...

12/25/06

think it comes down to really who's smarter/works harder. A lot of this industry is about connections and esp. who's going to 'take care' of you when you get there (i.e. the alums). If you have a strong alum connection at banks and whatever, it makes your transition alot easier. hate to say it, but alums from my school (especially ones who are in MD positions) love to meet the first year analysts and take them under their wing(s?) particularly when it comes to placement in product groups, exit opps, showing the analysts the ropes and whatnot. It's a pretty nice deal. So while you may be willing to work harder than the ivy league kid, luck and connections is a huge part of it. I'd take luck over being 'good' any day. You can be fantastic but if you're in a sucky group, you might get nowhere. Or, if you're a great group but you're just average or mediocre and do the bare minimum, you often reap the benefits of what's going on in the industry.

Done with rant. carry on.

12/26/06

Wheres UT on the list?

12/26/06

You are right, We had a few state school kids, like UT Austin, UWashington, UC Berkeley, and they were rockstars, they all went to tier 1 Private Equity. The stanford kids couldn't even land a gig after two years, The Harvard history major couldn't even calc EBITDA.

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2/9/07

What about some of the southern ivies like Vandy, Tulane or Rice?

In reply to Jude84
2/9/07

Jude84:
What about some of the southern ivies like Vandy, Tulane or Rice?

Or Emory?

2/9/07

As good as those schools are, not sure we should be referring to them as a part of the Ivy League. Kind of reminds me of the guy who, a few months ago, asserted that there were five Ivies in Texas alone.

Vandy, Tulane, Rice, and Emory are all viewed with a modicum of respect, but a student from that league of schools still has to work extremely hard to get noticed in an applicant pool.

2/9/07

in my opinion, you're better going to utexas instead of rice if you live in texas. there are more banks (especially for NYC) that come to campus....if you're in the south, emory is decent, but not great for placement. duke/unc/uva are probably the 3 best schools in south for placement.

2/9/07

Well out of the ones that were listed in the South (Vandy,Tulane, Rice, Emory). Which one is the one that gets the most respect. Im leaning towards Vandy.

2/9/07

Scottwibell,

So you have seen more UT grads make it than Rice grads?

2/9/07

more UT grads definitely. However, realize that UT is much larger and many more people want to get into banking. Most UT grads are in Houston office, but fair number are going up to NYC over the past 3-4 years.

In Houston, Rice is best. Overall and NYC in particular, I'd say that Emory gets the most respect. It seems like half the school is filled with rich kids from Jersey and Long Island with lot of connections. Seriously, the school has a strong business program and has Atlanta to back it up.

2/9/07

So Emory over Vandy and UT over Rice when it comes to Texas, but not NYC.
Well I already worked up an easy ride into Vandy's Graduate Econ department and was ready take some finance courses from Owen, but I also have a shot at Emory. And if Emory commands more respect on the Street then I might as well shoot for Atlanta.

2/9/07

I can confirm this. I've seen more Emory grads on the street than Vandy grads, and more UT grads than Rice grads.

Not sure whether I've seen more UT than Emory. Perhaps about equal.

2/9/07

Em-who? You mean Embry-Riddle Aeronautical?

In reply to holymonkey
2/9/07

Obviously there are less overall b/c of graduating classes with 350-650 kids but it seems as if there is a high relative % of Amherst, Williams, Middlebury, Colgate, etc.

varying in prestige but probably finding themselves upwards of tier 2-4 because of very strong alumni networks.

2/9/07

Emory? You mean the school that ivy rejects from Long Island go to? That school gets more cred than Vandy? People actually want to go to Vandy vs. Emory. I can understand UT becaue more kids want to go into IB there than at Rice.

2/9/07

what about Notre Dame?

2/9/07
2/9/07

While a great, great engineering schools, I have yet to come across a Cal Tech banker. Obviously, the main reason is they want to be engineers and scientists with creativity, not us banker monkeys.

2/9/07

Scott, what about Notre Dame. And what's the deal with Emory?

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