So you want to cold email me? Here's how you do it right.
This is an old post--I'm deleting it.
But here's an update:
It's been a while, and now I'm working full time. Our mentee group is pretty active on Facebook. Work has been busy, 18 hours a day, 7 days a week.
On cold-emailing: It can't hurt. Just email first before the cold-call. Don't feel entitled, tell your audience how you can help them. Instead of "I'm looking for," "I thought you might need a hand."
In that other post about emailing the VP of HLHZ whose wife is a principal at a top 5 strategy shop? My best friend got his full time offer after the cold-email led to him being HK's first intern. He worked his butt off, watched Youtube videos of Excel, lived in a small, small room, and finally things are going his way. Just one email, a lot of luck, and not spending a day questioning yourself, "what else can I do?"
The thing is, once you get a job after looking for so, so long, you realize that it's ... just a job. The best learning lesson for me, that I use everyday now talking to C-levels, is that I had a hard time, I had a unique narrative, and I got through it. I feel pretty confident now. I can sleep under my desk because the alternative is, ... well... all that over again.
So after all that crap, when you realize you'll get a job, it's the personal relationships that matter. Your buddy who will slip your resume into the pile, the introduction at the bar, your own mentor offering your mentee an internship within 5 minutes of lunch (happened 3 weeks ago while I was in Beijing)... that's what it is.
My intern at where I work got hired without an interview. It was me saying, you won't regret it; she's great.
So, keep emailing. Don't think it's above or beneath you. Ask your friends for their university recruiting logins. I post a lot of Boston College jobs in our Facebook group. Does it matter if you lucked out or followed a process to get that SA? Not really.
Just do a good job once you get it, and help some other poor kid.
Also, I kind of retired from WSO, so sorry if I haven't answered your PMs. I'll get to those very soon. Good luck guys. Every so often I read my desperate posts on here, and then I realize, wow, what a long way I've come!
-wolfy





Lol @thank you cards. I
Lol @thank you cards. I don't have the balls to try that.
-MBP
Thank you wolfy this is a
Thank you wolfy this is a great post.
Agree 100% about the whole PUA w/r/t networking thing. Network with financiers as you would pickup women - not needy or overbearing, classy, and just plain smart.
No disrespect but...How can
No disrespect but...How can you be an intern mentor?
Paul.Allen wrote: No
No disrespect but...How can you be an intern mentor?
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anyone thinking about energy
anyone thinking about energy trading can email me at [email protected] and be nice
WSO Conf - June 29, 2013
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I've had 90+ conversations as
I've had 90+ conversations as part of my search, some of them several months ago. I sent everyone a thank you email within a day or two of the conversation. Do you guys think it's worth sending thank you cards at this point, to sort of keep up the relationship?
+1 for a fellow Tom Jones fan
+1 for a fellow Tom Jones fan
"Despite a voluminous and often fervent literature on 'income distribution', the cold fact is that most income is not distributed: it is earned."
-Thomas Sowell
How did this nonsense get
How did this nonsense get resuscitated? I feel bad being the resident Wolfy-basher, but he didn't get a job in finance or consulting: the only thing that any of these unusual networking suggestions got him was polite rejections. An intern could be a mentor if he had good advice to hand out, but these are either platitudes or bad ideas.
One of those lights, slightly brighter than the rest, will be my wingtip passing over.
I'm confused. As an intern,
I'm confused. As an intern, exactly what are you providing as a 'mentor'?
When I would cold email, say
When I would cold email, say a partner by looking at a firms website, I would send a brief message saying who I was, what year I was at my school, and if they had a few minutes to talk sometime that week in regards to their company and the industry they're in (middle market, bulge bracket, etc). Never once got turned down. And a follow up thank you email helps.
brooksbrotha wrote: When I
When I would cold email, say a partner by looking at a firms website, I would send a brief message saying who I was, what year I was at my school, and if they had a few minutes to talk sometime that week in regards to their company and the industry they're in (middle market, bulge bracket, etc). Never once got turned down. And a follow up thank you email helps.
This is exactly what I do also, works very well.
noway wrote: I'm confused. As
I'm confused. As an intern, exactly what are you providing as a 'mentor'?
It's called learning from others' experiences/networking
jjcannon wrote: noway
I'm confused. As an intern, exactly what are you providing as a 'mentor'?
It's called learning from others' experiences/networking
And you need a mentor for this?
... well this is awkward....
... well this is awkward....
Really confused, so he's not
Regardless of the OP's
I'm on a drug. It's called Charlie Sheen.
Matrix, I could not disagree
No one wants to cold email
brooksbrotha wrote: When I
Are you serious about
Has anyone had success in
How can students help the
austrianliberty wrote: How
Anyone have an archive of
zeropower: Thank you wolfy
Keep it together and you will go far..
OP are you Chinese by any
What a horrible post. It was
Gold!
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@rothyman: So you emailed