Is it a sin?

So, in the Bible it says "You shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his male or female servant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor." Pretty comprehensive, but I will ask nonetheless. Does that cover interns, especially from the said interns perspective?

So, the story and the questions. The PM next door (let's call him J) had an intern that is bright as a star on a moonless night, diligent as the seven dwarfs before the Snow White showed up and eager as a beaver in the right season. This said, he never worked with me and we did not really speak much, most of my impression is based on chatting up a few guys that work with him. As far as I know, J has no concrete plans for the intern. (a) Assuming I can work out the internal magic, would it be strange if I reached out to that intern (either direct or via HRs)? (b) From that youngsters perspective, If the answer to (a) is yes, is HR the best way or best to reach out personally? (c) If (and that has been my understanding from talking to J) the dude is more interested in a Google-like job, what can I say to change his mind (millennials are an enigma)? (d) If you were a said intern, how would you feel about joining a group of one that was only created very recently (I only recently joined this firm)?

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"Nivel-Egres" So, in the Bible it says "You shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his male or female servant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor." Pretty comprehensive, but I will ask nonetheless. Does that cover interns, especially from the said interns perspective?

So, the story and the questions. The PM next door (let's call him J) had an intern that is bright as a star on a moonless night, diligent as the seven dwarfs before the Snow White showed up and eager as a beaver in the right season. This said, he never worked with me and we did not really speak much, most of my impression is based on chatting up a few guys that work with him. As far as I know, J has no concrete plans for the intern. (a) Assuming I can work out the internal magic, would it be strange if I reached out to that intern (either direct or via HRs)? (b) From that youngsters perspective, If the answer to (a) is yes, is HR the best way or best to reach out personally? (c) If (and that has been my understanding from talking to J) the dude is more interested in a Google-like job, what can I say to change his mind (millennials are an enigma)? (d) If you were a said intern, how would you feel about joining a group of one that was only created very recently (I only recently joined this firm)?

What?

Just email or call the person. What is all of this fluff?

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"Isaiah_53_5" Just email or call the person. What is all of this fluff?
Fluff it is, but the questions are more-or-less serious. Good juniors are pretty hard to find and, lately, I've had tough time hiring people (both here and my previous spot). Seems like once I make an offer they get an offer from elsewhere. Plus, apparently I am hard to work with and Asian hours don't really help.
I have a friend who lives in the country, and it's supposed to be an hour from 42nd Street. A lie! The only thing that's an hour from 42nd Street is 43rd Street!
 

Plenty of juniors are looking for quant trading positions, but the risk averse ones would probably want to go to a larger tech firm like a Google. Risk takers will likely go for a startup or start their own businesses.

I think you're likely running into this problem because you're a new one-man shop. You might need to spend some more time reaching out to career centers or training an intern in house, the latter runs the risk of said intern getting poached after graduation, however.

Maybe look at candidates with a few years of work experience?

 
"Asymmetric" Plenty of juniors are looking for quant trading positions, but the risk averse ones would probably want to go to a larger tech firm like a Google. Risk takers will likely go for a startup or start their own businesses.

I think you're likely running into this problem because you're a new one-man shop. You might need to spend some more time reaching out to career centers or training an intern in house, the latter runs the risk of said intern getting poached after graduation, however.

Maybe look at candidates with a few years of work experience?

It's a tricky one. Someone who's been doing it for a while will cost a fair bit more and (more importantly) would be set in the Wall St ways. That's why I decided to go for someone straight out of school.

My luck with juniors (over my 20 years in the business I had "a few") has been very variable. The general notion that there are plenty of smart people in this business and plenty of hard-working people and a fair number of non-assholes, but the intersection of these three sets is very small and hard to come by.

I have a friend who lives in the country, and it's supposed to be an hour from 42nd Street. A lie! The only thing that's an hour from 42nd Street is 43rd Street!
 
"RobberBaron123" Unrelated, but can I ask where you are from? Just wondering who says "bright as a star on a moonless night," "...as the seven dwarfs before the Snow White showed up," and the rest..
I was bored :)
I have a friend who lives in the country, and it's supposed to be an hour from 42nd Street. A lie! The only thing that's an hour from 42nd Street is 43rd Street!
 

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