Big4 and Banks background check
Hey guys, does the big four go through the length of really checking GPA directly with the school after the offer letter? If I lied on my resume and transcript will I be caught?
How intense does mid-tier firms do their background checks? I'm not looking for lessons on moral.
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I've known someone who lied on their app and put their major gpa, then retroactively switched it after acceptance. Nothing ever came of it even after multiple review cycles.
Manipulating your transcripts on the other hand...good luck being blacklisted.
The employer will never reach out to the schools for your GPA. They will only verify that you graduated with your stated degree and attended on the dates you claim that you attended. They will require you to send transcripts, some want official and others are ok with unofficial transcripts.
Are you sure billLumbergh because I've read on other forums that after getting you to sign off on all discovery/research before applying a third party gets it directly from your school?
Last recruiting season they asked for us to send our transcripts but this season they didn't, it makes me wonder how they're going to collect grades this time around...
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And do I send it or do I have to have the school send it?? https://careeradvisor.pwc.com/article/complete-personal-records-checkli…
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I can't say for sure as my experience and the guy I knew did this at EY
I believe they do it in the background check but I specifically sent copies (faxed) to the HR when I joined on.
While you’re not looking for a lecture, this usually doesn’t end well. Yes, in theory you could get away with it. But people get caught and that’s a helluva risk.
Your real GPA is probably higher than mine was. Buck up and work on the other stuff.
Adding on to this - what about citations for underage drinking/fake ID that were dismissed (not guilty). Do the banks care?
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So, GPA is literally a 'moving target', and changes every term. So did you grossly lie about your GPA? Like said you had a 3.8 when it was a 2.8? Or did you just 'round up very favorably', like saying you have a 3.6 when you had a 3.4. I think that really is the degree of actual risk, how much did you overstate.
I see two options.
Do nothing, if they don't request an actual transcript (and actually review it very carefully) they will not likely get through the basic verification systems. If you do get caught, then you have to carefully decide how to explain. I hate lying (but here you are....), but trying to explain as a mistake is probably the best/only idea. If your 'inflated' GPA could be justified in some reasonable way (like in major, junior/senior years only, etc.) you could just say it was an alternate calculation (but be prepared to 'show your work' if you down this rabbit hole).
Send in an updated resume with correct/final GPA. If you are returning paperwork and other items, you could include an updated resume. I wouldn't call attention to what changed, just attach it. Then you would have theoretically created a record of accurate GPA, but the original application one may be saved regardless. If caught, you can try and go with the 'mistake' plea on the first one. This is clearly risky, as it could call the item to be put on full view.
Would HR care if I had a 3.35 GPA when applying and got the offer but listed a 3.5 gpa to include the fall semester (which I got a 4.0 in) which is my now actual current GPA? If my bank asks for a transcript are they going to verify my current GPA or the GPA when I applied?
Why does this story sound exactly like mine- slightly inflated cumulative gpa, but made up for the difference in the next semester. It's uncanny
To be honest, most transcript requests are likely only to verify you actually graduated, they look for the degree conferral and move on with life. Could they try and read backwards to see what the GPA was on the date you applied, I guess..... but, assume the date is mid-Fall... is the correct GPA the one from last Summer/Spring or from that Fall (I mean it's plausible you knew your grades, or factored "mid-term" grades into your GPA for more "up to date" info). I'd guess they just look at the last one, if they even did.
Regardless, 3.35 rounds to 3.4, so writing 3.5 is not much of a variance (granted, 3.5 is one of those cut off GPAs....), but the fact you now have a 3.5, I'd say you are probably at pretty low risk all around.
Maybe people lying about GPAs is a bigger deal than I realize, but I can't imagine HR doing such a forensic audit, usually it's just for degree verification. I mean, you are applying without a degree, and you could fuck up or not pay for the last term, it's a legit concern that you have actually graduated. I probably wouldn't lose much sleep on this one.
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