Cornell University Chi Phi Fraternity
Curious on people thoughts. Pretty awful situation one but seems there're evidence against them with one being let go from his firm.
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I didn't practice law for long, but even my ultra-short law career was long enough to know that it's an abuse of prosecutorial discretion to re-open a previously closed criminal case without material new evidence.
In this case, no new evidence is offered. In fact, the only difference between the police report and the civil complaint is that the accuser told police she gave consent, and she conveniently failed to mention that in her complaint.
That's blue state justice for you. Politics over professionalism. Prosecutor has political ambitions and cares more about firing up the media in a liberal state than doing the job properly.
Pretty callous take man. Regardless of legal arguments, those lads did something really nasty and shouldn’t be let off the hook. Can’t really consent when you’re force-fed k also
If you want to suspend them from school or whatever for the drug use, go ahead. But be appropriate about it . . have a drug policy and enforce it equally.
You can't just call someone a rapist "regardless of legal arguments." This is America. You're a rapist when a jury decides you committed a rape.
Agreed. She also coerced those men into a threesome because they were drunk (even though she was also drunk) and should thus be charged the same. NO ONE should legally be allowed to have sex unless they take my palantir-sponsored breathalyzer and affirm consent via video on my anthropic biometric scanner.
You should read the complaint. Or go ahead and just blindly believe something because you were told to "believe all women".
Truth is you have zero idea what happened. I have little idea myself, but at least I read what's available before running my mouth.
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So does red state justice consist of letting the president create fraudulent electoral college certificates, pardon the guys who beat capitol police, the still support him 6 years later?
Honestly, there’s a bigger picture you’re missing. Best of luck
the texts / pictures were new
And what did those texts and pictures do to change your view of the case from a hypothetical prosecutor's seat?
I get the texts identify the many non-participating frat brothers as d-bags. I don't see them adding much of anything to Jane's SA claim.
I'd ask people to consider two things:
Even Sunny Hostin on the View, who might be the least likely defender on Earth of the Cornell 7 given her established history of far left socio-political views and generally hating on men and whites . . . even Sunny Hostin is saying the complaint doesn't establish grounds for prosecution even if we believe every word of the complaint.
For all the WSO folks in this thread who are having the knee-jerk reaction and assuming you know what happened: look at the track record. Knee-jerk folks are always wrong on these things.
They were wrong about the UVA hoax about 10 years ago, they were wrong about the Duke lacrosse case way back when, and there have been countless little incidents since then (the Columbia mattress girl who wound up costing the university millions in libel damages, the Berkeley kid who was convicted on WSO but nowhere else).
These Cornell dudes seem to be major d-bags at a bare minimum. I have no interest in defending their character and am not worried if their precious little careers get messed up.
I'm just amazed at how little people care about getting their facts in order before forming an opinion. How many of these cases turn out to be different after the public gets more time to dig in a bit further? Every one of them it seems.
Relax pal no one is saying they need to be hung tomorrow. I’m glad you agree they are most likely douchebags. I agree with your point that the original complaint didn’t allege rape. But that’s not to say that some f’d up shit didn’t go down that night. The snap messages are pretty damning. The girl probably doesn’t even remember half of what she did and half of what was done to her
LOL I need to relax? Coming from the dude who called me 'callous' for simply explaining the common knowledge that prosecutors aren't supposed to re-open cases without new evidence.
I'm just stunned at the lack of critical thinking. Not hard to find op-eds today saying throw these guys in jail right now. Typical hysterical reaction, every time.
As noted, I don't care about them. But I'll bet anything they get precisely zero days in jail. Would love to see a Kalshi/Polymarket on this.
Relax Pal
She’s not blameless but it’s her word versus theirs in a post #metoo America
Women are advocating for justice in a system built for female submission to injustice, yet you dumb it down to your level using “post me too America.” Ignorance is bliss
My MS alerts went suddenly quiet today after another day of reporting. Even the NYT making the accuser look ridiculous. Chalk up another L for the knee-jerk reaction crowd, got it wrong again.
Same. So funny. Even the WSO mod team was getting offended by my posts. Stupid libs
Its just incredible to me. Whether it's an SA story or a "cops killed someone without justification" story, there's always this initial tsunami of pitchfork types assuming that the thing happened exactly as initially reported by one side of it.
Then at least 95% of the time the story changes dramatically after more info comes out. You'd think people would observe this pattern and be more cautious when the next story hits. But nope, they just fall for it again and again.
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