Top 16 schools like Haas that explicitly prefer the GMAT to GRE?
Hey all,
So I went to drop-in-advising at UC Berkeley Haas (I went to Berkeley undergrad), and an admissions counselor explicitly told me Haas' MBA program prefers the GMAT to the GRE, although they do accept the GRE for some candidates. In their view, they feel the GMAT is more reflective of b-school success, particularly with the quant portion.
Does anyone know if this is true of any other t16 school? I'm not sure, but I heard UCLA Anderson also prefers GMAT over GRE. Most other schools say they weigh the GRE and GMAT equally on their websites, but there could be more that meets the eye.
I'm personally planning to take the GRE over the GMAT, so I'm looking at schools to rule out, like Haas.
Thanks.
Honestly, they all prefer the GMAT, because it's harder. If you could get the equivalent score on your GMAT that you got on your GRE, then why wouldn't you?
I think you should only apply with GRE with a high GPA. Basically, your raw intellect won't be a question and you won't bring down their stats.
Honest answer? I have a good GPA (3.8) in English from Berkeley.
Also I took a GRE cold and scored high on verbal and shitty on quant (163V bc of my liberal arts background, and like 152Q). If I relearn high school math, I'm positive I can get quant up to a 164 or higher.
Meanwhile, I took a cold GMAT, and got utterly decimated on math. I also did worse on GMAT verbal bc it's less reading comprehension and vocab based (my strong point). GMAT math was way harder for me, so it'd take a longer time to get that up to speed vs GRE.
The calculator on screen for the GRE helps me. So from a pure efficiency standpoint, it'll be a lot easier for me to get high scores on the GRE than on the GMAT, although maybe I could score well on the GMAT with like 2x effort.
And this answer is WHY b-schools prefer the GMAT. Because it's harder in the subjects that most business school curriculum is based on - it's a better indicator in your performance in a program with quant based classes. Some schools are upfront about their preference for the GMAT, but they all prefer it. Why? Besides the fact that it's harder, it's also a known recruiting tool for certain jobs (notably MBB). B-schools care about their placement stats, and if you're going to be hindered in recruiting because you don't have a gmat score, that has a potential to hurt them. Also, b-schools don't report GRE ranges but they do report GMAT ranges. Basically, a high GRE can't really help you the same way a high GMAT can. But, that said, if you're not going to do well on the GMAT, don't do it. but if you need to show b-schools that you're not going to fail out of your core classes because you can't do stats and calc. I recommend taking a quant class at your closest university to offset this given you didn't do quant in undergrad. You have to relearn high school math to do well in business school, so there's not a lot of harm getting that started.
Also, I hear Haas is really unfriendly to alumni, so it may be wise to rule them out anyway
Study hard and take the GMAT, all of the schools prefer it - because it's part of the methodology to rank business schools (average gmat score...) You took it cold? No wonder you scored badly, unless you somehow have an eidetic memory for junior high school geometry.
I know everyone says that but... US News ranking Methodology: "Mean GMAT and GRE scores (0.1625): This is the average GMAT score and average GRE quantitative and verbal scores of full-time MBA students entering in fall 2016. U.S. News uses both GMAT and GRE scores in the ranking model for MBA programs that reported both scores. Using the GRE scores allows U.S. News to take into account the admissions test scores of the entire entering full-time MBA class."
Some schools report GRE scores and some don't.
https://www.usnews.com/education/best-graduate-schools/articles/busines…
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