4 HOUR BODY

HAHAHAHAAH, the topics are hilarious...

Wait...he missed one: How to walk on water at the speed of light if you could't catch the plane...

Bullshit. Only a fucking mutant could gain 34 lbs of muscle in that time period and session length. Sounds like a douche.

• How to prevent fat gain while bingeing (X-mas, holidays, weekends)

• Binching till you die...

• How to increase fat-loss 300% with a few bags of ice

• Same. Just lay in there till you freeze to death.

• How Tim gained 34 pounds of muscle in 28 days, without steroids, and in four hours of total gym time

• implantation

• How to sleep 2 hours per day and feel fully rested

• that would be about 1REM phase, and after 2 months you are dead, basically

• How to produce 15-minute female orgasms

• Simple. Just don't date women. Someone will do it for you. (if you look like the author)

• How to triple testosterone and double sperm count

• Okay, this one is tricky..dunno

• How to go from running 5 kilometers to 50 kilometers in 12 weeks

• Walk ten times 5 kilometers over teh course of 12 weeks.

• How to reverse “permanent” injuries

• Cut off the part of your body that carries them.

• How to add 150+ pounds to your lifts in 6 months

• Just ask some guy to put them on the bar. Easy. (pushing them is something different though)

• How to pay for a beach vacation with one hospital visit

• Yeah, get yourself shot,. die and let your kinship hold the funeral at the beach.

Thanks !Guess I saved you tons of time.

Alright kiddies. Looks like the Ferriss haters are out in full force. Let me try to add some rationality to this discussion. I've done some informal work/correspondance with Tim, and as a consequence ended up with an advance copy of "The 4-Hour Body" about a month ago. All in all, a fascinating book written in the same vein as "The Four Hour Work Week", which I'm sure you've all heard Eddie and I recommend countless times. If you want to get a feel for the contents of the book, Ferriss has two blog posts that you should definitely read that give away a lot of the core message of the book. One called From Geek to Freak: How I Gained 34 lbs of Muscle in 4 Weeks and another titled How to Lose 20lbs of Fat in 30 Days - Without Doing Any Exercise. Yes, both are possible, and Tim includes before and after pictures. I highly encourage you to read them both.

I'll also include my own experience following Tim's diet and exercise plans in case you think he's full of shit. I was a high school athlete and generally pretty in shape before college - about 6'1", 180lbs and fairly built. Over the course of 4 years and countless Busch Lights, I graduated around 205lbs and started a job in banking. After 6 months of takeout dinners and 90 hour weeks at a desk I was up to 220lbs, had back pain, acne, and digestive problems. I regret now that I didn't have my body fat analyzed, but I expect I was pushing 30%. I looked in the mirror one day and realized - I was unhealthy. I was on pace to become the fat guy in the red convertible that dies at 55. It was time for a change.

I followed Tim's "Slow-carb" diet and exercise plans (simultaneously) as outlined in the blog posts above, and here's what happened. As I said, at my peak during banking I was 220lbs, with back pain, acne, and digestive problems. So I made a change. I went on the slow carb diet and hit the gym for 20 minutes of cardio and 20 minutes of hard lifting twice a week (it was all my banking schedule would allow anyway). I kept drinking on the weekends with my buddies to stay sane, but limited myself to wine or bourbon rocks. What happened? After 3 months I was down to 200lbs, my skin was clear, and my digestive problems were totally gone. After 3 more months I was at 185lbs, in the best shape of my life, with no lower back pain. Several years later, that's still where I am today. This stuff works guys, I've lived it.

Buy the book and give it a try before you dismiss Ferriss's claims. It might change your life.

Says the guy with a pirate flag in his avatar and who could either go under the name captain Kirk or captain Krunch :)

One certain problem you don't take into your account is that the amount of wieght you gain or loose depends on your initial weight, size, etc. and it does at best depend linearly on the factos, and surely not constant!

ANd I certainly will not buy a book that says it helps me double my spermcount

I'll agree here with Captk that the methods work. People just lump Ferriss in with all the other bullshitting self-help people because he does come across in a very self-aggrandizing way in his posts and books.

Really almost any method of calorie-controlled dieting, exercise, or the two will result in better health. He takes a different approach, seems like he's done his homework. I'm definitely going to take a look at this and if I end up using his methods Ill let you know how it goes.

^^ true, huge weight swings aren't good for you, regardless of whether its gaining or losing fat or putting on a bunch of muscle

i think the p90x guys or mens health or something should put the 34lbs claim to the test. i think the 4 hr work week was a pretty decent book overall, just a matter of how much you can actually utilize in your current situation. no matter what you think of his new book, this dude is out living the life many people could only dream of while traveling the world rather than being a desk jockey somewhere.

Better Christmas reading:

http://www.amazon.com/But-Wait-Theres-More/dp/006126055X/ref=sr_1_12?ie…

I hear CaptK and the other Ferris fans out, but the guy has been characterized as the best marketing machine in the country rather than someone who has new ideas and ideas that really work. I read the 4-hour work-week and it reads a lot more like a self-help book with some relatively common business ideas than something that's actually going to change peoples' lives. The book was also written before the financial crash and if you had followed certain parts of the advice right when it came out, the results could have been disastrous.

The best route to a 4-hour workweek or a 4-hour body is financial and culinary dieting, IMHO (moderating your drinking goes a long way on both counts.). If you cut back and get used to that new lifestyle, you don't have to work as much to be healthy or meet your basic needs.

Total bullshit. No one is gaining 34 lbs. of muscle in a month without juice. It’s tough to do on steroids. Do you know how massive 35 lbs of muscle is? That’s the difference between a Drew Brees (6’1” 210 lbs) and Ray Lewis (6’1” 245 lbs). Adding 35 lbs of pure muscle would probably add 150+ lbs to your bench press.

Scam.

The 4 Hour Work Week was a phenomenal book and even in that he did some pretty unbelievable shit as CapK and Eddie would agree to (first white guy ever to win the International Chinese Kickboxing Championship -- he revolutionized the sport and forever changed its strategy,

I won't argue with you there IP - Ferriss is a hell of a marketer first, and a serial norm-challenger second. I enjoy his stuff because it catalyzes action in people that are struggling, and while the stuff inside may not be groundbreaking science, it does work, it's all in one place and packaged together in actionable advice. Simply following a plan of any kind is 90% of the battle.

Ferris is a marketing genius. Kinda like the PT Barnum, Harry Houdini, or Billy Mays of the 21st century. I'll give him props for that. But I don't think he has anything for us to learn from in his books.

My concern is that many of the norms Ferris challenges challenge the very notion of responsibility. The implication of Ferris is that there is always someone else to do the tough work and that money is free. I'm not sure those kinds of values that are healthy in the long term for individuals to buy into. Otherwise, everyone would die of starvation at the blackjack tables because all of the farmers are too busy counting cards to plant anything.

Life isn't easy. We make it easier through hard work and living within our means, not by forgetting the values that got us where we are.

In any case, the secret to weight loss is switching to whole grains and drinking more moderately or at least switching to Yuengling Lager which is a solid beer but has 20 fewer calories than most of the alternatives. The secret to muscle gain is to have something with protein in it (fish, chicken, yogurt, or cottage cheese are great examples) before or after you exercise and living in New York and walking everywhere. This isn't brain surgery. It's basic common sense. Given that 90% of the folks on this site are very bright people, I don't think these strategies should be a surprise. There, I've saved you a $15 book and a two hour read.

Ferris might make an excellent career or life coach. I just don't think his books are that helpful. You've probably considered all of his suggestions in the past and you either want to change to follow them or you don't. Yes, I've thought about getting a PA service before I read Tim Ferris's book. I ultimately decided that having "Sunny" field calls from my mother just wasn't the way life was meant to be lived. Instead, I spent the money on a cleaning lady. Much more time saved and now we are also talking about absolute time advantage as well- the cleaning lady can clean my apartment twice as quickly as I can while sending birthday cards to family takes Sunny just as long as it takes me.

I also thought about outsourcing my job. This idea is nothing new- I had a friend two years ahead of me in school do it. But it's a risky strategy and if you have a job in banking, this is a great time to keep working while the pay is still more than $15/hour.

^^^^ Have you read the book? I never said that he made the sport better*even though he did), but as a matter of fact the rules of kickboxing were amended and the strategy I was referring to was knocking people out of the ring, which is a legitimate strategy in almost all martial arts, i.e. 3 times out of the ring = a T.K.O. And I was completely accurate about his ability to revolutionize the sport... you can't even argue that, as it is fought in a very different way than it was even a decade ago. In his book, he directly references the 1968 Mexico City Olympics and the first "flop" style high jump. It's so funny that you brought up the ridiculously off-point comment about causing everyone to false-start in 100M dash because it doesn't even address the spirit of my point. No one would argue that the "flop" style is the most successful way to do a high jump if looking for maximum height, yet before the 1968 Olympics it had never been tried. The athlete who did it in the 68 games won the gold medal... would you say that this revolution of the sport damaged it? No... it made it more competitive and provided a way for athletes to break through heights previously thought to be unattainable, much as Tim's progression now makes it necessary for kickboxers to pay more attention to their balance lest they be thrown out of the ring. Additionally, you never addressed the fact that this was merely one thing that he did that challenges status quo... what about him winning the Tango competition or learning 5 languages. Comparing Tim Ferriss to Billy Mays and saying he is merely a marketer because he is successful at promoting books is completely insulting. Billy Mays was a loud-mouthed, talentless ass clown who never did anything truly remarkable. Tim Ferriss has achieved more in a few short years in his quest to test his own boundaries than most people ever accomplish in a lifetime. It's simplifications of monumental feats like the above, that further prove the point I was trying to make in acknowledging Tim's unique ability to overcome obstacles and belief barriers.

It’s relatively simple to stay in shape…even during your analyst stint. First and foremost, do not order General Tso’s chicken every night on Seamless (if you ate this while training hard, you would still be fat). Instead, order more fulfilling proteins (fish, meat, veggie platters, grilled chicken, etc.) – there are plenty of tasty, healthy options that are not going to add 5 inches to your waste in 6 months. Also, do not indulge in 250 calorie lattes 4 times a day with your colleagues – instead drink water, eat fruit, protein bars, shakes throughout the day so you do not gorge in one meal. If you do this combined with some sort of workout regime (when time allots – and believe me, you can always spare 30 minutes regardless if you are staffed or not) you will stay in shape and be healthy (and be fully prepped to endure all nighters). Let your co workers indulge on fatty foods and watch their performance dwindle – and you don’t need to read a book to figure this out (although I respect what Ferris is doing - +1 to the above regarding his marketing capabilities).

I don't want to jump into the discussion whether Ferris is legit or not, but I find his claim to add 34 lbs of MUSCLE in 28 DAYS (no matter if it really works or not) to be undesirable....can you imagine the stretch marks that you would carry if you would gain this much body weight in the short time span?

I gained like 15 lbs when I first started working, freaking vendors always bringing greasy foods or sweet stuff. Lost all of that and another 5 lbs in maybe 2 months without a gym, its not hard.

The first time i maxed out on bench press I was like 13 summer before freshman year I was able to get up 95. A year later I was up to 225 max, 2 years later 295 max, 3 years later 335 max. In that span my weight started at 200 and ended around 235.

Ferris is nothing but a snake oil salesman. Can't wait to see if someone can manage the 34 lbs of muscle in 28 days with a few hours at the gym. Perfect experiment for an analyst.

I would love to see some monkey commit himself as a guinea pig for the muscle gain experiment.

So I bought the book ($9.99 for Kindle v on Amazon), and started reading through it. Some of it is new to me (though it's not new), some of it isn't. I absolutely like the way he presents his material, though. He has a laid back style which will undoubtedly help a lot of people get all their asses. I'll definitely be trying some of the weight/dieting combinations to see how they work. If I can build strength in 4.5 hours a month, sign me the fuck up!