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This person is a complete and total disgrace.
I had seen the resume and presentation prior to it going all viral, and all I came away thinking was "what a pathetic moron." Had she simply sent in her resume and a normal BS cover letter, she'd probably have been a serious contender for a job. Instead, I am convinced that this chick should be removed from society. It's little shitheads like this that make me hate my job and the industry at large. Pieces of garbage that literally dedicate their every action and thought to working in IB / PE. How fucking pathetic is it that people like this exist? Someone who uses every moment of their life to build a resume just to spend every moment of their life working to death.
FEEL MY RAGE
I agree with TheKing here...I can understand the grammatical errors since she is Chinese, but she is clearly one of those one dimensional robot kids who spend every waking moment trying to impress investment bankers so she can be one. Last summer as an intern at a BB there was a kid in our class who was constantly trying to impress everyone. He would do things like prefacing questions for executive guest speakers with a bunch of random facts about current events. Everyone saw through his bullshit and thought he was one dimensional.
Part of me feels bad for these kids, but jesus christ....get a fucking life already.
She is also in blatant violation of CFAI standards, wouldn't be surprised to see a crack down soon
That's the first thing that made me tick... im sure somebody will flag her just because she's an idiot
Not familiar w/ CFAI rules. What did she do wrong?
I'm sorry, guys, but this is just awful. How on Earth did this chick ever get a call back?
Serious question: do they fucking teach grammar and sentence structure in school anymore? Are you all this fucking dopey when it comes to writing skills? This wasn't some hasty screed in a chat room, this was a structured presentation designed to land her a job.
I couldn't make it past the third slide.
This fucking industry is circling the drain.
What the fuck?
All your base are belong to us, honey.
i believe its all your bases....
but hilarious response...it encompassed everything i was thinking... its a mangled trainwreck...i guess they figure shes asian and its ok. Clearly a bookworm, with no culture, interest in pop-culture, nerdy little asian girl with no ppl skills. Horrible presentation, probably done with google translator
Nope.
Gotta love Engrish.
You obviously don't know the low-budget Japanese video game that the quote is alluding to. "All your base are belong to us" is correct.
This person can't even put together coherent sentences. And very impressive she raised a whole $200 in donations... Completely and utterly pathetic,
LMAO... The $200 in donations definitely made me chuckle as well...
I have seen strung out pot heads generate a more coherent thought pattern. I think Citi and BAML should be ashamed of themselves for giving her a call back.....especially for IBD, attention to detail anyone?
I also think that Dealbreaker may have just fucked her completely and I can't see her getting an offer now.
I kind of feel bad for this kid... maybe this is how many people in China get jobs. Hell, most of us on this board don't have jobs yet--- maybe Clipart is the way to go. ;)
By being Asian and not proofreading?
This will explain everything:
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1694642051
(That's her.)
good job inspector gadget... silver banana for your detective work.
This chick is good at one thing, regurgitating information from her textbooks. Her accomplishments are superficial, her grammar is worse than a 5th grader, and she's taken bullshitting to a whole new level.
This has to be fake.
Edit: ok wow, she's "liked" Donald Trump and Ivanka Trump on Facebook...
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/wenfeng-wang/16/174/796
Hhaha, yeah I saw this shit before it went viral too. I personally love the bamboo PPT background. Nothing says Wall Street to me like panda bears, bamboo shoots and dragons.
On a serious note though... things like this could be partially forgivable if it wasn't so poorly executed. After all college kids are susceptible to mis-steps, and going out on a limb, being ballsy and being creative shouldn't have the downside of career suicide / humiliation. I felt bad initially for this chick but then it was just one thing after the other.
For one, the grammar was horrendous. Which, again I gave her the benefit of the doubt on cuz she was obviously Chinese.... but then she goes on to boast about her superior writing and composition skills. On top of that its ridden with typos and formatting fuck ups. On TOP of that, the e-mail itself had typos in it. How the fuck do you manage to have a typo in a 2 sentence e-mail which you should have proofread 40 times before you hit send.
Then there was the obvious hilarity of the $200 raised for charity and the mock-league table-esque slide.
Overall if it was a 2 or 3 pager, which was professional and well-executed, this non-conventional ballsy approach is something I probably would have liked and could have generated some positive reactions (albeit from undergrads ONLY).
I agree 100% man...if done professionally this would have been a creative (albeit risky) way to get around some gatekeepers and make yourself stick out among the endless piles of resumes representing countless well-qualified applicants.
However, the end product was a piece of shit. I get it...she's chinese, english isn't her first language. She gets a pass on some of the grammatical mistakes, but it makes me wonder how terrible a test the TOEFL must be. What truly bothers me is the absolutely horrible powerpoint. Considering the job she is applying for involves an incredible amount of work creating pitch books and creating "perfect" decks, this is just a dumb move.
Has anyone actually verified she's been contacted by these banks? And if she has, how do we know it's not to simply bring her in and make fun of her? Maybe Vikram will have USCIS there ready to deport her when she arrives?
@Marcus:
She's a masters student, not undergrad...
It's clear that she's not being called back by BAML and Citi because of her "unique" application, it's because she's obviously Asian.
LMAO. How is Vikram going to react when he finds out she hasn't "Liked" him on Facebook, but she "Likes" Jamie Dimon?
lol - I think by now, Vik is used to it.
Classic:
"Citi CEO Vikram Pandit (without identifying himself) asked how the deal would affect the risk to Bear's counterparties on certain long-term contracts.
'Who is this ?', barked Dimon.
'Vikram'.
Dimon snapped: 'Stop being such a jerk', adding that Citi should 'thank us' for preventing further panic on Wall Street."
Why are asian finance nerds so weird? I remember an undergrad networking event and at the question part of the info session this girl from Beijing stood up and gave her credentials and little pitch to this guy who was a guest speaker. I was embarrassed to be there and wish I could have framed the look on this MS guys face.
I admire the determination and the will to "differentiate" oneself, but this is rediculous. Whatever happened to the good ole fashioned phone call and networking?
We had a guy come in the other day for a SA interview. Without knowing my last name or having my business card I get an email saying that his meeting me "must be a sign that he was meant to come work on the trading desk". Did god come down and speak to him?
What is the world coming to...
don't stereotype. alexsey vayner, madoff, etc. the list goes on and on. i remember a fellow intern (non-asian) at my bank who had a very noticeable stuttering problem. normally, i would sympathize, but he was also among the biggest douchebags i've met.
finance is just a career that attracts a huge number of assholes, weirdos, and guys with ego problems.
as for the email, that's something i've always debated as an undergrad. it's incredibly simple nowadays to figure out another person's last name through linkedin, maybe some sort of interviewer list given to all interviewees, etc. takes less than 30 seconds. a little different from your case though.
I love how she says
Not only are there a lot of grammar mistakes in the presentation, there is one on this slide.
Nobody noticed that first ("tailored")part of her email is Arial 10 while 2nd part is TNR 12... ?
Copy/Paste => DING!
Look at that attention to detail. You should use this as a "story" during interviews
Whoa this kid is making us asians look bad.. studying in BLCU was fun though
Normally I am not fast to judge others; however, the grammatical errors are killing me.
word to the wise...NEVER bone an Asian finance chick...it's like fucking tickle me elmo while trying to park a truck into a parking space not big enough for a tricycle with one thousand pairs of fucking ugg boots standing guard
I understood all of that except the ugg boots part.
I could be off base here but I believe that part of the witty euphemism was referring to the fact that many of them don't... Shall we say... Trim the hedges
Lol. Uppity Asian chicks love they sum ugg boots. That about it.
Yeah, but then Jamie admitted that that was really good question. JPM also fucked itself with the contract to acquire Bear by guaranteeing the trades for a year with no escape clause......it allowed the equity holders to keep voting the acquisition down until the offer price went up and JPM would be on the hook for all its trades........I read Last Man Standing as well...interesting read.
I kind of feel bad for this girl, seeing how hard she's trying.
I grew up in Asia and went to college in the US so I can kind of understand her lack of social skills. Most of the kids here, especially the ones who do well in school work their asses off and don't really have extra curricular activities, other than the ones they force themselves to do so that they look good on paper. So since they study so much, and don't get out a lot the social skills are a little under developed. I know compared to my work load in secondary school (high school), college was really a piece of cake.
So when someone comes along and says you have to be proactive, this is the unfortunate result. I'm pretty sure she's exceedingly intelligent and will be willing to work harder than most people, but someone just needs to take her out for a good bang and teach her some social skills (and english).
Agreed. Unlike Aleksey and that Jeffrey Chiang joker, her mistake is that she's socially inept (which some prospective monkeys on WSO are guilty of - to lesser extents) and committed a social and process faux pas. But I guess banks saw this and decided to give her the benefit of the doubt, if she's gotten first round interviews.
lol... maybe there's a tv show opportunity here. Like "Pimp my Ride", but applied to socially inept Asian girls.
I can't believe you pulled out the Zero Wing reference. Thank you Edmundo, it seems some good did come out of this chick's super-awesomeness presentation. I love you long time
No problem. I am a repository of obscure cultural references. Dennis Miller doesn't have shit on me.
While I commend her for her efforts in trying to differentiate herself, it really does come off as a bit smarmy and very try-hard. Also, it's hard to believe that recruiters at banks like Citi and BAML (which receive thousands of applications) have more than a few seconds if not minutes to waste on an poorly-written 11 page presentation.
I could tell right away just by reading those slides, that she was Chinese (as in from mainland China, not North American born). Having gone through an undergrad program that had its fair share of FOB Asians, I can attest to the awkwardness with which they approach recruitment.
In my last year of school, I had already accepted an offer and while waiting for class to start one day, I was cornered by a lower year Chinese girl interrogating me on what I did to get the job, what social clubs I was part of, what courses I took, what my grades were etc. If that wasn't unsettling enough, she actually had a notepad pulled out ready to write down my responses!
I got this forwarded to me via e-mail, and it had the name of the HR woman who I guess must have passed on the e-mail that this girl sent her. Do you guys know if there are ever any ramifications for the HR people who forward stuff like this around? I don't feel bad for this girl at all because she seems like a gigantic tool, but doesn't HR worry about getting fired for sending this stuff around to people outside the bank?
Cut the girl some slack... she went to 北京语言大学 in 2009. 北京语言大学! Kind of a big deal!
Ok kidding aside, I copy/pasted that from her FB profile and have no idea what it says, but it shows she's only been in North America for 1-2 years, English obviously isn't her strong suit. Hell, it says a lot that she did well on CFA Level 2 considering how much reading comprehension is involved for ethics and how tricky some of the wording is.
She has an open wall and one of her recent status updates was "How to learn American slangs?"
Feel bad for the girl.... the slideshow is brutal, but still...
Beijing yu yan daxue---Beijing Language and Culture University.....one of the best language universities in the country.
Anyone check her blog? http://wenfengwang.blogspot.com/
I can't believe some of these kids...
Dude, nice find. I just sent it to Bess Levin!
I studied Chinese in college and would NEVER send out something in Chinese without having it vetted extremely thoroughly by a native speaker.
I have no doubt her English is better than my Chinese, but there is no excuse for not having someone with native fluency read over something you've written in your second language WHEN IT SPECIFICALLY SAYS YOU HAVE EXCELLENT ATTENTION TO DETAIL AND LIKE CORRECTING DOCUMENTS.
Not to mention the shoddy and unprofessional production of the whole presentation.
I played the all your base are belong to us video and left it on while reading this post, now that the song ended and I have reached the bottom of this post. I feel like my life is missing something.
OK nevermind the base base base thing comes back.
"So when someone comes along and says you have to be proactive, this is the unfortunate result. I'm pretty sure she's exceedingly intelligent and will be willing to work harder than most people, but someone just needs to take her out for a good bang and teach her some social skills (and english)."
I will do it, for this sake of their well - being.
lol to this post.
Must I resort to lame tactics like this to get noticed? I feel like I have a stronger profile but can't seem to land any interviews...
Do people like this succeed in finance, or even the business world in general? I recently left an Econ PhD program, and we had several Chinese students like this (fairly intelligent and hardworking, but a lack of basic social skills). I always assumed that students like this didn't even apply for many private sector jobs, and instead just opted for the PhD/academic route as many of my classmates did. I always assumed that they'd have a hard time succeeding in the business world, despite their intelligence and work ethic.
I cannot believe anyone in here is defending her in the least and making excuses for her behavior. Shit is disgraceful.
I'd still hit it after a few beers...just syain
when you say few "beer" your really saying four Loko right?
haha nah bro...I mean a few Sapporo and I'd be good to go
Plus she would probably love me long time
face palm How did she think this would be a good idea?
5 beers.
0 beers for me.
Surprisingly enough "attention to detail" is not a skill I particularly care about when considering prospects for slamming
The following is taken from her blog. I can't believe none of you brainiacs have figured out that pa-pa is clearly a high ranking member of the CCP and that this is no different than G-Dub getting a country to run for 4-to-8. Just look at this shit:
Forgot #7...death to enemy of revolution by firing squad.
yep.
her background isnt even impressive, it seems that she couldn't secure PWC for full time audit But shes original, if she gets in it gives me lots of hope(non target)
Haha welcome to Wash U man. Get those WU-goggles on, and you're good to go.
why is she applying to become an analyst out of b school? i have never heard of that
I've sent pitchbooks to CEOs before--but they had substance and data to solve their problems. Presented in a very clean, Mary Meeker MS style. That got interviews.
This presentation was only circulated because it's laughable. I'm really sorry for Chinese applicants everywhere.
You don't have your #1 slide as a bunch of words without any meaning. And please have judicious use of articles or "Eats, shoots, and leaves."
The bamboo is very face-palm.
Three things:
BLCU is not BFSU (the target)
The job climate is extremely competitive with top grads from Peking University and Tsinghua rounding out at 8,000 RMB at McKinsey/Bain & Co. Beijing. That's a little more than a 1,200 USD (SAs get that a week). Same hours.
It's rote memory all the way because of their bac. exam, the "Gao-Kao." It's the high school exam that determines their life, much like Korea's SKY and Japan's Todai/Waseda obsession. They don't get second chances, just like how Nomura isn't going to a non-target in Tokyo.
Competitiveness, desperation, lack of tact and Western manners.
--
I've done a favor correcting a resume for a friend's friend's ex-boyfriend. We call the friend's friend "hairy armpits" because she doesn't shave and has a habit of stroking her armpit hair.
I highlighted the changes in red, put suggestions in the margin, turned on track changes.
The friend's friend: "Can you just do it?"
10 min later, the resume's owner sends a cover letter to me. I have to correct this one now?
No tact. It didn't help that the subject line was: "Get this American guy to correct this after he's done." Fwd-ed to me.
Dude's subject line: "Fwd: 你让美国人有空帮我改改cover letter" BCG. I emailed all my Beijing friends about a BCG opening.
--To avoid embarrassing Chinese everywhere, you need tact. Tact, tact, tact.
We had 3 girls hiding in the ladies bathroom at the ad agency where I worked. They wanted interviews/second chances. Crashing info sessions is one thing but hiding in the bathroom?
I corrected a lot of Chinglish in press releases, even at the executive level. This is pretty common. Just as using Babelfish for French 4 in high school, and then having it all in feminine. It's rare to have colloquial English (they all learn the Brit way). It's your opportunity to bring impeccable buddy-buddy English to Asia.
--
The ppt is really embarassing. But when you can't get Visa sponsorship to stay in the US after your MSF or when you got 70,000 debt USD and a 8,000 RMB job back in China (/6.8)--you'd insert the bamboo pix too.
That's the deal in China. Advice: Work in HK and Singapore.
What the fuck?
My friend: "Her hair looked like it had texture. She was stroking it at the pool." If a girl doesn't look after herself now, what happens in 10 years? Thus, I lift up the arms of every Asian girl I meet.
There's a GPA in Chinese schools? Really? And GPA for grad programs are inflated.
Still feel bad for her.
Does anyone have the original email chain?
Is she applying at Beijing Citi??
Trying to paste it in here but there's some sort of spam posting filter that asks me to type in the displayed characters, but there's no characters displayed.
Might want to check that out Patrick.
If you PM it to me I can try posting it?
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