Capital One Business Analyst vs. Liberty Mutual Corporate Strategy & Research?

Liberty by a mile

the former sounds like an IT role, what do you want to do? be an IT person or work in finance

Do you have a job description of the Liberty Mutual role? From what I've heard about the CapOne BA's is that it's mostly an internal strategy consulting role. It's not really IT at all from what I've heard..

any other ideas as to what is better?

it's really a tossup, I spent a little bit of time looking into both and heard from a couple friends (top target so people go every year to both) that people really hate being at Capital One for what it's worth. don't really have any more details, I'd just check to see where previous people went via LinkedIn and flip a coin or something. I get the impression that Liberty Mutual's group is slightly more prestigious, but not really clear

edit: this is assuming "Business Analyst" means Cap One's corp strat group and not some other random shit, because if it is some other random shit then definitely Lib Mutual

My capital one offer isn't for strategy - liberty is though

The Capital One BA gig is definitely not IT... not sure where you guys are getting this from. It's a strategy role... essentially internal consulting. You might have to do some "IT"-esque stuff, namely SQL coding, but that's where the IT-related stuff ends.

Don't know much about Liberty Mutual/ what you'd be doing in that role.

OP, what are the two companies offering in terms of base salary + signing bonus + performance bonus? Which one seems to have more kids from targets/semi-targets?

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I don't know any of this first-hand, but here goes:

I think Liberty Mutual's CS&R is going to be more "prestigious". From what I understand, it would fall somewhere between Capital One's Strategy Analyst program (very prestigious) and the BA program, though leaning towards the Strategy Analyst program.

Honestly though, I don't know all that much about CapOne's BA program. I've just heard great things about CS&R.

It would help if you gave us a better idea of where you want to be in 5 years. Leave for FT MBA? Do you know you like one of these companies more than the other? Do you like one of the industries more than the other?

Both are great companies. Either place you're likely going to be working with strong performers.

Don't have much guidance into Liberty Mutual, but I can give some general observations from interviewing at CapOne for more of an experienced role.

I don't know if this is pure coincidence, but I encountered a ton of engineers at CapOne during my interviewing. Every person I interviewed with had an engineering background (either BS only, MS/PhD, or BS + MBA). Additionally, 80+% of the other people that were interviewing with me had engineering backgrounds. I gather that because CapOne is a pretty data-oriented business, that they like people who can pick up SAS and SQL easily, though I'm sure some groups are less code-y. Again, might just be an anomaly.

I know a couple of people who work there and they are pretty cool and down to earth (including a Director), not to mention they are all sharp. Compared to other f500’s, CapOne seems to care more about landing people from “prestigious” schools and pedigrees (e.g. ex-mbb). They also seem to care more about MBA at the Manager/Sr. Manager and above levels. Not sure how this factors into promotions if you are interested in staying for the long-haul (no-mba). I think they sponsor a mba… I could be wrong on this one, however.

Something to keep in mind, CapOne has a pretty large class of BA’s. This can be good or bad. Good from a networking/social aspect, but could also harder to differentiate yourself and stand-out. If Liberty Mutual’s strategy group is a smaller group, I might be more inclined to take that offer, as it may provide good exposure to the C-suite.

Where do you want to spend the prime of your youth, the hell hole that is Richmond, VA or Boston? Pretty easy decision if you ask me