Did Big Pharma withhold the vaccine?

Ok hear me out, this is just speculation without any evidence. As we all remember, news of Pfizer's 90% effective vaccine came out immediately after the presidential election. Moderna's vaccine shortly followed. Is this timing more than just a coincidence? I think there are quite a few reasons to be suspicious of this. First, Trump started importing drugs from Canada, something that no previous president would ever consider because it's the ultimate "f-u" to Big Pharma. Then, as the pandemic rages, Trump claims that we are just about to "turn the corner" and that a vaccine is less than a year away. Wouldn't Big Pharma take advantage of this opportunity to get this threat out of office? Could they have released news of their vaccine earlier? Those of you who disagree, where am I wrong? 

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  • Prospect in IB-M&A
Jan 6, 2021 - 3:02pm

Are you talking about the Senate election? I don't care about that. Since it's almost 50-50 with a narrow democrat lead, I don't think anything substantial will happen.

Or are you talking about people storming the Capitol? I don't care about that either. They will likely disperse in the next few days without causing violence. Remember, these a Republicans, not BLM supporters.

 
Jan 6, 2021 - 4:56pm

i wouldn't be telling people what they should and shouldn't be concerned with, champ

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Look at all these wannabe richies hating on an expensive salad.

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Jan 6, 2021 - 3:45pm

I don't think they withheld the vaccine but they did withhold the news. There's no way it was a coincidence that the announcement came the Monday after Biden was declared. I agree with your above comment that at this point it's not a D vs R debate and that everyone is not a fan of big pharma - if it is found that they withheld they should be hanged.

I don't want to believe that vaccines were withheld but I guess after watching America's opioid crisis unfold I wouldn't be too surprised.

 
Jan 6, 2021 - 3:59pm

Prospect in IB-M&A

Ok hear me out, this is just speculation without any evidence. As we all remember, news of Pfizer's 90% effective vaccine came out immediately after the presidential election. Moderna's vaccine shortly followed. Is this timing more than just a coincidence? I think there are quite a few reasons to be suspicious of this. First, Trump started importing drugs from Canada, something that no previous president would ever consider because it's the ultimate "f-u" to Big Pharma. Then, as the pandemic rages, Trump claims that we are just about to "turn the corner" and that a vaccine is less than a year away. Wouldn't Big Pharma take advantage of this opportunity to get this threat out of office? Could they have released news of their vaccine earlier? Those of you who disagree, where am I wrong? 

You're wrong because not everything is a conspiracy, and more importantly because the political agenda for liberals includes lots of ideas that are terrible for pharmaceutical companies, whereas the conservative utopia in which medicine will go the highest bidder is a reality right now.  Why would they want to upset that?

Perhaps more intelligent is the thought that it just takes about 9 months to create an effective vaccine.

 
  • Prospect in IB-M&A
Jan 6, 2021 - 4:41pm

This potential "conspiracy" doesn't sound too outlandish though. My point was that maybe Big Pharma identified that Trump is more dangerous than a typical career politician like Biden or Obama, who (though they are Democrats) wouldn't dare to import drugs from a price controlled market like Canada. Let's be honest, Trump is a Republican but he's also a loose cannon who often delivers on his threat, for better or worse. I don't think Pfizer likes that.

 
Jan 6, 2021 - 4:56pm

This potential "conspiracy" doesn't sound too outlandish though.

It does, because it doesn't make any sense.  

My point was that maybe Big Pharma identified that Trump is more dangerous than a typical career politician like Biden or Obama, who (though they are Democrats) wouldn't dare to import drugs from a price controlled market like Canada.

Trump is a con man, a grifter, a criminal, and a career bankrupt.  Even if we assume that your typical "career politicians" like Mr Obama (who was in politics for like... ten years before he ran for President?  Real "career") wouldn't dare import drugs from a price controlled market, that doesn't necessarily make them better options for people who specialize in profiting off the drug industry.  Remember, Mr Obama was a "career politician" in your parlance, but he also tried to reform healthcare in a way which was impactful to healthcare bottom lines and would have been more so.

Let's be honest, Trump is a Republican but he's also a loose cannon who often delivers on his threat, for better or worse. I don't think Pfizer likes that.

Mr Trump is an uneducated idiot with unlimited faith in himself.  If that's what you call a loose cannon, I agree.

However, he rarely delivers on his threats and is constitutionally incapable of seeing them through.  What "threats" does he deliver on?  Raising tariffs on wines (except the ones his kids like)?  When has Mr Trump ever delivered on a threat to a person capable of responding to it?

 
Jan 6, 2021 - 4:42pm

Prospect in IB-M&A

Ok hear me out, this is just speculation without any evidence. 

Then why would you post it? 

This is everything wrong with the internet. 

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  • Prospect in IB-M&A
Jan 6, 2021 - 4:48pm

Because the timing of the vaccine announcement was too convenient to be a coincidence. I think this is a valid suspicion.

 
  • Analyst 1 in IB - Ind
Jan 6, 2021 - 9:10pm

I was under the impression that Pfizer openly said that they withheld the news so it wouldn't affect the election? Could be wrong but thought I saw it somewhere. Additionally, Trump was big on making drug prices for hospitals more transparent which he pushed really hard for at the start of his presidency. Drug companies definitely not happy about that. Makes sense they would withhold the information if they knew it would negatively affect him. I don't think you're onto anything new or crazy, thought this was pretty open stated by Pfizer but, if not, clearly implied.

 
  • Prospect in IB-M&A
Jan 6, 2021 - 9:14pm

That's what I'm saying is the problem. Why would you withhold news of the vaccine knowing that it has to be distributed as soon as possible so more don't die week by week. This should have been brought out immediately instead of waiting until the election is over so the threat to their profits doesn't win.

 
  • Analyst 1 in IB - Ind
Jan 6, 2021 - 9:16pm

The news was what was withheld. They were still in the third phase of their trials so they couldn't have brought it out sooner whether or not they released the news sooner. Plus I think there was some fear Trump would force them to release it before their trials were ready which wouldn't surprise me and would have some potentially drastic negative effects. Withholding the news was definitely the best thing for the general population.

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