I read the forums on different cities in the US and the "feel" of them, but I'd like to know which are very focused on "status" and "prestige"
My take:
1. New York City-very hierarchical, most chicks looking for older guys with a penthouse and prestigious job. Which building you live on the Upper East or West side, what firm you work at, etc. You can hardly get into a conversation with a girl that doesn't involve your job. One of the only cities where it is commonplace to wear business casual to a bar. People don't care about what car you drive because you probably don't have one.
2. Los Angeles: Pretentiousness comes with the celebrity-crazed town. Paparazzi, Beverly Hills, etc, lots of snobbery. Gold diggers and aspiring actresses wanting to get their name on a newspaper somehow. I almost feel that the people are naturally stuck up, even if they don't have loads of money.
3. Miami: Definitely different than New York city (LA is more of a blend.) Miami reminds me of the "bridge and tunnel" crowd of NYC (Jersey, Long Island, Staten Island.) Expensive, gaudy clothes, jewelry, and cars. Gold diggers galore, but moreso checking out the rides and bottles on your table than your job (no one seems to care about job prestige). Nouveau riche mentality for sure.
Chicago, San Diego, Austin seems to be chill and less status oriented? Not really sure. Sound off on what your take is.
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You want women? Texas. Only problem is you can't be the kind of pussy who likes the status-y clique-y Euroman-y style of the 3 cities you just listed.
Haha, no interest in the status-y cities, that's why I'm asking
Look man, I'm on your page. I came to NYC from the South, so it's been a huge change. That being said, you can find people like-minded who think the city is full of people who would give their left-nut to feel like their caste is higher (which is just sad). My advice is go to a big city, make bigger money, find some guys you can have a good time with, keep your head down, avoid the jappy girls and asian girls, and then move back to the real world once you've made some money.
From people I know that have lived in both NYC and LA, LA is significantly more status oriented than NYC
Thoughts/experiences with Dallas? Houston?
Where is DC? I'd put it up there with NY.
NYC chicks ask what you do before your name, one even asked me how much I make. The first time it happened, I actually laughed in their face, I didn't realize they were serious. Everyone just seems to be looking to get something out of everyone else instead of ......living
Wtf? That sounds awful. I'm not one to tell others how they live their lives but to judge someone solely based on their job is sad IMO.
I have a few friends that do/have lived in LA, and they said at some places they has girls ask them how much they make before they ask what they do...
The lamiest. dumb girls ask, smart girls analyze.
+1. great topic and solid post, dude. I have to jump in as an avid advocator of "status". some points to argue for:
Most "status" oriented cities = New York, New York, New York. What you said about new yorkers are basically true and I love it. I've lived in almost all major cities of the states and I only found NYC to be my best fit for "status" worshipping. I could not probably find even one single person who shares what I love regarding "status" in any other cities (Note: especially, particularly the midwest). But in here, I don't even bother searching. There are a ton of that breed out there. A little off the topic, you said new york girls dig older men with fab jobs and titles. I don't disagree. Maybe. But how pathetic is that? How older are the men? Personally, most of the times, I only want to date younger (younger than I am) guys with the equivalent potentials. (Pedo smile) My very own motto: "being an old fart is not your fault, but being an unloyal, creepy, sexual old fart is your sin for sure".
LA. Nah, nah. I know a lot about Hollywood. I would say that city is more likely "publicity" oriented. Also, is any "status" in showbiz considered real "status"? lol C'mon.
Miami on this list is a joke.
Thanks for the input. I appreciate you thinking that NYC would be #1 on the list. LA and a lot of Orange County is very status oriented by my standards. (Believe it or not) There are other high paying industries other than finance, and entertainment is definitely one of them. They're always on TV, paparazzi practically stalk them, people follow their every move, and they make serious money.
Miami is just a different type of "status oriented city." What I meant to say is that it's less "status" oriented in terms of prestige, jobs and shit but more about $$. "How much do you make" would not be an appropriate question in Miami, more "How much do you spend?" It truly is a playground for the nouveau-riche.
Just wondering, if not Miami on the list, what cities?
And what cities are opposite?
I would have to agree with the Miami aspect that resident posted. I have a large group of friends down in that area that I visit a lot to get away from this god awful cold weather during this time of year. I would have to say it is really about how you flaunt your money, not how you make it. With that being said, I would have to say that this is definitely a status driven city. Although the jobs down there aren't as prestigious as what most people would consider on this site, there still is a lot of money down there.. My two cents - I love the hell out of that city (even being from the north east) and have the time of my life every time I visit. It's honestly like a different country inside the US. I could definitely see my self residing in South Florida once I get some solid experience and align a great job there.
I know what you are talking about the west coast. If you have to count in the showbiz status, then my list will be NY and LA. Done! I could not think of any other cities to make on the list, because remember, a "status" oriented city gotta be a big city, an international hub first. Otherwise, you tell me how a small town with a mere 500,000 population make itself status oriented? What kind of status is that? haha
For the opposite, if big city, simple, go for Chicago. The midwesterners there don't even know how status is spelled.
So Chicago seems like a good place to go if you want to make money but don't want to deal with morons obsessed with status?
Absolutely. There are a good amount of people here that can be NYC-esque status oriented types, but they tend to go to a select number of clubs and throw down Dad's credit card to impress coked out 19 yr olds sluts. 98% of bars in Chicago are just normal, fun bars.
what's wrong with the asian girls? :(
the stereotype is girls like midtowngal above, very very status oriented, probably comes from some kind of insecurity, which is no more fun to deal with than a social climber.
obviously stereotypes are stereotypes, there are great asian girls out there.
(1) NYC definitely.
(2) LA - Yes and no. Ordinary finance/business guys in SoCal are pretty chill. But anyone connected to the entertainment industry is likely to be a massive douche. You have to have some sort of insane ego to think, yes, I will be the one who "makes it", among all the thousands of baristas who are also trying to "make it". Stick to the normal people, and it's great.
(3) Miami - Never really would have thought of Miami as status oriented.
I'd nominate DC as a replacement for Miami. I never thought of DC as status oriented, but apparently the influx of young people has caused something of a public service prestige order to develop. I have no idea what order it is (Fed > CBO > CFPB?) but it apparently exists.
Miami should be replaced with Boca.
Doesn't this whole description of NY sounds more like one for people in PE, IBD, or Law. It seems different for traders and HF PMs. This might be why many of them are in the Connecticut or Chicago area instead. It would make more sense to distinguish degrees of status based on occupation as opposed to city/state. For example, tech people in a given city will tend to dress and act very differently than finance people, but fiance people in CA will tend to live much like finance people in NY, with the exception that the people in CA usually have cars and houses.
Any take on Boston?
I don't think girls in Boston are as status chasing as the other cities. Most of them just want to have fun, I can only speak for the college aged girls.
If you want laid back move to Denver. Nobody cares about status or what you drive or where you work. There's pretty much nowhere you can go that jeans aren't acceptable. The idea of the dress code for a "fancy" restaurant out west is jeans and a button down shirt. Plus pot is legal now.
NYC is definitely way at the top of the list. It's the most status oriented pretentious city in the US.
Hm, the whole write when your drunk edit when your sober doesn't really work on WSO.
midtowngal, I'm having a hard time understanding why anybody would admit that they're status oriented... maybe because I'm from the midwest? I dunno, not trying to get after you or anything, it just seems like a pretty shitty quality to have. Would you take a rich guy with no "status" over a guy with a lot of "status" but a slightly above average income?
Status in the midwest? I'm SOOOO tempted to work a redneck joke in here but resisting the temptation. Maybe the metrics are different, but the underlying motivators are the same, statistically speaking.
What IS a status symbol out there?
Why I'm so blunt about it, because I'm honest as hell. No way for me to be a hypocrite. I do have the guts to speak out what is running through my mind. No you got me wrong. When I say status oriented, it is more about myself. Hey, boys, if the hotness of you is mesmerizing, I don't give a shit if you are a construction worker or what. I will take care of you. haha, maybe not anymore. that would only happen when I was way younger. I need to worry about my future kids' gene from now.
Again, I fucking hate rich old farts with no class at all. Why I need to suffer that? I have the greatest sympathy over those girls. I would consider it a big life failure as a female if I had to settle with one like that.
that's what I'm saying... I don't think I understand it because people don't give a shit about status here really, at least the people that I've met... n guess what... there aren't many rednecks in metro-detroit. some. but not many.
believe it or not, Aston Martins and the like do exist in Michigan and can sometimes be seen as a status symbol... who'dathunkitithoughttheyonlyexistedinnewyorkcity?
Ouch, Aston Martins and Status? These two don't complement each other at all. You are probably still a college boy, my friend. I may give you a Status 101 some time. You sound like you need it.
Ah ok. I thought you were going after the guys with status.
As for the aston martin, I'm talking about if someone just sees you riding around in one, not if they know what your job is or whatever you're getting at.
i'm not interested in this status 101 though either, especially from people that come off the way you are
.....get a room you two 8D
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