The 16 Commandments of Poon

I was poking around this Blog that was tremendously popular back in 2008 and I thought that some of the entries there do actually hold water.

Let's see how these hold up with WSO users experiences. Is this going to be a useful thread in monkeys pursuit of hearts and intimacy ?

Heartiste has these "Commandments" in roman numerals so I have to follow:

I. Never say 'I Love You' first



Women want to feel like they have to overcome obstacles to win a man's heart. They crave the challenge of capturing the interest of a man who has other women competing for his attention.

II. Make her jealous



Flirt with other women in front of her. Do not dissuade other women from flirting with you. Women will never admit this but jealousy excites them.

III. You shall make your mission [i.e.job], not your woman, your priority.



Despite whatever protestations to the contrary, women do not want to be "The One" or the center of a man's existence.

IV. Don't play by her rules



If you allow a woman to make the rules she will resent you with a seething contempt even a rapist cannot inspire. The strongest woman and the most strident feminist wants to be led by, and to submit to, a more powerful man.

V. Adhere to the golden ratio: 2/3



Give your woman 2/3 of everything she gives you. For every three calls or texts, give her two back. Three declarations of love earn two in return. Three gifts; two nights out. Give her two displays of affection and stop until she has answered with three more.

VI. Keep her guessing



True to their inscrutable natures, women ask questions they don't really want direct answers to. Woe be the man who plays it straight -- his fate is the suffering of the beta. Evade, tease, obfuscate.

VII. Always keep two in the kitty



A man with options is a man without need.

VIII. Say you're sorry only when absolutely necessary



Do not say you're sorry for every wrong thing you do. It is a posture of submission that no man should reflexively adopt, no matter how alpha he is. Apologizing increases the demand for more apologies.

IX. Connect with her emotions



Set yourself apart from other men and connect with a woman's emotional landscape. Her mind is an alien world that requires deft navigation to reach your rendezvous. Frolic in the surf of emotions rather than the arid desert of logic.

X. Ignore her beauty



The man who trains his mind to subdue the reward centers of his brain when reflecting upon a beautiful female face will magically transform his interactions with women. [Those who] lose their awe of beauty [will], in turn, [lose] their powerlessness under its spell. It will help you acquire the right frame of mind to stop using the words hot, cute, gorgeous, or beautiful to describe girls who turn you on. Instead, say to yourself "she's interesting" or "she might be worth getting to know". Never compliment a girl on her looks, especially not a girl you aren't fucking.

XI. Be irrationally self-confident


No matter what your station in life, stride through the world without apology or excuse. It does not matter if objectively you are not the best man a woman can get; what matters is that you think and act like you are. Women have a dog's instinct for uncovering weakness in men; don't make it easy for them.

XII. Maximize your strengths, minimize your weaknesses



In the betterment of ourselves as men we attract women into our orbit...there is a groupie for every male endeavor.

XIII. Err on the side of too much boldness, rather than too little

Touching a woman inappropriately on the first date will get you further with her than not touching her at all. Don't let a woman's faux indignation at your boldness sway you; they secretly love it when a man aggressively pursues what he wants and makes his sexual intentions known.

XIV. Fuck her good



Fuck her like it's your last fuck. And hers.

XV. Maintain your state control [Note: This is the one I like best, because most men fail at it]



You are an oak tree. You will not be manipulated by crying, yelling, lying, head games, sexual withdrawal, jealousy ploys, pity plays, shit tests, hot/cold/hot/cold, disappearing acts, or guilt trips. She will rain and thunder all around you and you will shelter her until her storm passes. She will not drag you into her chaos or uproot you. When you have mastery over yourself, you will have mastery over her.

XVI. Never be afraid to lose her



You must not fear. Fear is the love-killer. Fear is the ego-triumph that brings abject loneliness. You will face your fear. She who can destroy you, controls you. Don't give her that power over yourself. Love yourself before you love her.



List and quotes from: Heartiste : Where pretty lies perish

Are you climbing [down] poon hill a little bit better now ?

Comments (32)

Apr 15, 2013

Want to improve your life and outlook on life significantly? Read all of pre-2009 Roissy.

Apr 16, 2013
holla_back:

Want to improve your life and outlook on life significantly? Read all of pre-2009 Roissy.

Link?

"The HBS guys have MAD SWAGGER. They frequently wear their class jackets to boston bars, strutting and acting like they own the joint. They just ooze success, confidence, swagger, basically attributes of alpha males."

Apr 16, 2013
BradyisnotMVP:
holla_back:

Want to improve your life and outlook on life significantly? Read all of pre-2009 Roissy.

Link?

http://heartiste.wordpress.com/

I'm fairly certain this is Roissy

Apr 15, 2013

How to be a douche in 16 steps.

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Apr 15, 2013
kyleyboy:

How to be a douche in 16 steps.

True. Douches get girls, though.

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Apr 15, 2013
Simple As...:
kyleyboy:

How to be a douche in 16 steps.

True. Douches get girls, though.

this

Apr 15, 2013
Simple As...:
kyleyboy:

How to be a douche in 16 steps.

True. Douches get girls, though.

Not the great girls that will lift you up. If you just want the v though, and you're a teen, this may be relevant advice.

"...all truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

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Apr 15, 2013

Strong retard advice ITT.

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Apr 15, 2013

This is awesome advice.

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Apr 15, 2013

What did I just read?

Apr 16, 2013
Lambie:

What did I just read?

Apparently The 16 Commandments of Poon

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Apr 15, 2013

PUAoasis...will bring even more high school kids to this site.

Apr 16, 2013

Eh, it's pretty true to be honest... +1

Dirk Dirkenson:

Shut up already. Your mindless, reflexive responses to any critical thought on this are tedious. You're also probably a woman, given the name and "xoxo" signoff, so maybe the lack of judgment is to be expected.

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Apr 16, 2013

this gets the WSO Dating Advice Guy's seal of approval (I get a few emails a month from an advice thread i added to a year or so ago).

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Apr 16, 2013

1 Point back to Louboutins

along with my sexy accent there- "for in my own country of Transylvania I am a Count in my own right."

Apr 16, 2013

Advice is spot on.

Apr 16, 2013

Dude everyone is overthinking it. Just be yourself. You'll be fine. Everyone here is putting it on a 1000ft pedestal.

My drinkin' problem left today, she packed up all her bags and walked away.

Apr 16, 2013
Kenny Powers:

Dude everyone is overthinking it. Just be yourself. You'll be fine. Everyone here is putting it on a 1000ft pedestal.

It's not so much putting it on a pedestal as a lot of guys just really need to have it broken down for them, line item by line item. Nothing wrong with that, I was there once, and having people explain it to me helped a shitload.

Apr 16, 2013

This advice is basically "either act like a girl, or like an asshole".

So I don't think it's very good advice. Girls are much better at playing those mind games than we are, and they'll read right through this fake shit. And no one likes assholes.

There's nothing wrong with being honest and straightforward.

Apr 18, 2013

I'm upset it took me four days to see this.

Jul 24, 2013

How can you go back to those posts from 2009? For Roissy in DC that is.

Apr 15, 2013
madgames:

How can you go back to those posts from 2009? For Roissy in DC that is.

Just go to the current site (Heartiste) and enter /year at the end of the link.

It goes back to 2007 -- http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2007

Jul 25, 2013

Im sorry I have to bite. this is absolutely how most guys pull girls. doesnt mean you cant pull if you don't come from this angle..it's just the most common one. If you cant do it naturally then your just not meant for that angle, doesn't mean it's not the most common.

Most women come across multiple guys like this in their lifetime. If you showed a girl of yours this post, they would agree, especially if they have a lot of girl friends. Although, it absolutely does change once money is in play.

Jul 25, 2013

I agree this approach does work for getting V, but if you are looking for a girl to settle down with, I highly advise not to use this approach. Not only do you attract wounded girls acting like a dbag, there is no trust in the relationship. Joe Rogan has a good podcast on this--he is pretty spot on.

Oct 12, 2014

Was reading this earlier, really great article. Most of it is really solid. I think that #2 can backfire though. Based on other posts from that blog, you want her to know that you have no problem walking away if needed and can easily find someone else, but actively pursuing girls right in front of her isn't a great strategy IMHO.

The best line is from #11 and comes from the full article: "It does not matter if objectively you are not the best man a woman can get; what matters is that you think and act like you are. Women have a dog's instinct for uncovering weakness in men; don't make it easy for them. Self-confidence, warranted or not, triggers submissive emotional responses in women."

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Oct 12, 2014

Sounds like a lot of work. Can't we just pay for them? Saves time and $ in the long run.

-Teddy

Oct 15, 2014

Fun read. Not really adherence-worthy, but definitely fun.

Oct 15, 2014

this is pretty brutal advice. if you want to get laid by some smut it may hold true, but if you want a girl who is remotely wife worthy this is no where near sound advice.

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