The 16 Commandments of Poon

I was poking around this Blog that was tremendously popular back in 2008 and I thought that some of the entries there do actually hold water.

Let's see how these hold up with WSO users experiences. Is this going to be a useful thread in monkeys pursuit of hearts and intimacy ?

Heartiste has these "Commandments" in roman numerals so I have to follow:

I. Never say 'I Love You' first



Women want to feel like they have to overcome obstacles to win a man's heart. They crave the challenge of capturing the interest of a man who has other women competing for his attention.

II. Make her jealous



Flirt with other women in front of her. Do not dissuade other women from flirting with you. Women will never admit this but jealousy excites them.

III. You shall make your mission [i.e.job], not your woman, your priority.



Despite whatever protestations to the contrary, women do not want to be "The One" or the center of a man's existence.

IV. Don't play by her rules



If you allow a woman to make the rules she will resent you with a seething contempt even a rapist cannot inspire. The strongest woman and the most strident feminist wants to be led by, and to submit to, a more powerful man.

V. Adhere to the golden ratio: 2/3



Give your woman 2/3 of everything she gives you. For every three calls or texts, give her two back. Three declarations of love earn two in return. Three gifts; two nights out. Give her two displays of affection and stop until she has answered with three more.

VI. Keep her guessing



True to their inscrutable natures, women ask questions they don't really want direct answers to. Woe be the man who plays it straight - his fate is the suffering of the beta. Evade, tease, obfuscate.

VII. Always keep two in the kitty



A man with options is a man without need.

VIII. Say you're sorry only when absolutely necessary



Do not say you're sorry for every wrong thing you do. It is a posture of submission that no man should reflexively adopt, no matter how alpha he is. Apologizing increases the demand for more apologies.

IX. Connect with her emotions



Set yourself apart from other men and connect with a woman's emotional landscape. Her mind is an alien world that requires deft navigation to reach your rendezvous. Frolic in the surf of emotions rather than the arid desert of logic.

X. Ignore her beauty



The man who trains his mind to subdue the reward centers of his brain when reflecting upon a beautiful female face will magically transform his interactions with women. [Those who] lose their awe of beauty [will], in turn, [lose] their powerlessness under its spell. It will help you acquire the right frame of mind to stop using the words hot, cute, gorgeous, or beautiful to describe girls who turn you on. Instead, say to yourself "she's interesting" or "she might be worth getting to know". Never compliment a girl on her looks, especially not a girl you aren't fucking.

XI. Be irrationally self-confident


No matter what your station in life, stride through the world without apology or excuse. It does not matter if objectively you are not the best man a woman can get; what matters is that you think and act like you are. Women have a dog's instinct for uncovering weakness in men; don't make it easy for them.

XII. Maximize your strengths, minimize your weaknesses



In the betterment of ourselves as men we attract women into our orbit...there is a groupie for every male endeavor.

XIII. Err on the side of too much boldness, rather than too little

Touching a woman inappropriately on the first date will get you further with her than not touching her at all. Don't let a woman's faux indignation at your boldness sway you; they secretly love it when a man aggressively pursues what he wants and makes his sexual intentions known.

XIV. Fuck her good



Fuck her like it's your last fuck. And hers.

XV. Maintain your state control [Note: This is the one I like best, because most men fail at it]



You are an oak tree. You will not be manipulated by crying, yelling, lying, head games, sexual withdrawal, jealousy ploys, pity plays, shit tests, hot/cold/hot/cold, disappearing acts, or guilt trips. She will rain and thunder all around you and you will shelter her until her storm passes. She will not drag you into her chaos or uproot you. When you have mastery over yourself, you will have mastery over her.

XVI. Never be afraid to lose her



You must not fear. Fear is the love-killer. Fear is the ego-triumph that brings abject loneliness. You will face your fear. She who can destroy you, controls you. Don't give her that power over yourself. Love yourself before you love her.



List and quotes from: Heartiste : Where pretty lies perish

Are you climbing [down] poon hill a little bit better now ?

Comments (33)

 
Apr 16, 2013 - 4:59am

holla_back:
Want to improve your life and outlook on life significantly? Read all of pre-2009 Roissy.

Link?

"The HBS guys have MAD SWAGGER. They frequently wear their class jackets to boston bars, strutting and acting like they own the joint. They just ooze success, confidence, swagger, basically attributes of alpha males."
 
Apr 16, 2013 - 11:35am

BradyisnotMVP:
holla_back:
Want to improve your life and outlook on life significantly? Read all of pre-2009 Roissy.

Link?

http://heartiste.wordpress.com/

I'm fairly certain this is Roissy

"You stop being an asshole when it sucks to be you." -IlliniProgrammer "Your grammar made me wish I'd been aborted." -happypantsmcgee
 
Apr 15, 2013 - 10:32pm

Simple As...:
kyleyboy:
How to be a douche in 16 steps.

True. Douches get girls, though.

Not the great girls that will lift you up. If you just want the v though, and you're a teen, this may be relevant advice.

“...all truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.” - Schopenhauer
 
Apr 15, 2013 - 11:04pm

Lambie:
What did I just read?

Apparently The 16 Commandments of Poon

"You stop being an asshole when it sucks to be you." -IlliniProgrammer "Your grammar made me wish I'd been aborted." -happypantsmcgee
 
Apr 15, 2013 - 11:32pm

PUAoasis...will bring even more high school kids to this site.

Please don't quote Patrick Bateman.
 
Apr 16, 2013 - 12:16am

Eh, it's pretty true to be honest... +1

[quote=Dirk Dirkenson]Shut up already. Your mindless, reflexive responses to any critical thought on this are tedious. You're also probably a woman, given the name and "xoxo" signoff, so maybe the lack of judgment is to be expected.[/quote]
 
Apr 16, 2013 - 5:28pm

Dude everyone is overthinking it. Just be yourself. You'll be fine. Everyone here is putting it on a 1000ft pedestal.

My drinkin' problem left today, she packed up all her bags and walked away.
 
Apr 16, 2013 - 6:02pm

Kenny Powers:
Dude everyone is overthinking it. Just be yourself. You'll be fine. Everyone here is putting it on a 1000ft pedestal.

It's not so much putting it on a pedestal as a lot of guys just really need to have it broken down for them, line item by line item. Nothing wrong with that, I was there once, and having people explain it to me helped a shitload.

"You stop being an asshole when it sucks to be you." -IlliniProgrammer "Your grammar made me wish I'd been aborted." -happypantsmcgee
 
Apr 16, 2013 - 9:04pm

This advice is basically "either act like a girl, or like an asshole".

So I don't think it's very good advice. Girls are much better at playing those mind games than we are, and they'll read right through this fake shit. And no one likes assholes.

There's nothing wrong with being honest and straightforward.

 
Jul 25, 2013 - 1:09am

Im sorry I have to bite. this is absolutely how most guys pull girls. doesnt mean you cant pull if you don't come from this angle..it's just the most common one. If you cant do it naturally then your just not meant for that angle, doesn't mean it's not the most common.

Most women come across multiple guys like this in their lifetime. If you showed a girl of yours this post, they would agree, especially if they have a lot of girl friends. Although, it absolutely does change once money is in play.

 
Oct 12, 2014 - 1:22am

Was reading this earlier, really great article. Most of it is really solid. I think that #2 can backfire though. Based on other posts from that blog, you want her to know that you have no problem walking away if needed and can easily find someone else, but actively pursuing girls right in front of her isn't a great strategy IMHO.

The best line is from #11 and comes from the full article: "It does not matter if objectively you are not the best man a woman can get; what matters is that you think and act like you are. Women have a dog's instinct for uncovering weakness in men; don't make it easy for them. Self-confidence, warranted or not, triggers submissive emotional responses in women."

 
Oct 12, 2014 - 11:44am

Sounds like a lot of work. Can't we just pay for them? Saves time and $ in the long run.

-Teddy
 
Dec 5, 2017 - 10:30am

Actually, it IS.
It works for slags, it works for chavs, and it works for virgins.
Because women are women.
My grandmothers, aunts, sister, girlfriends, MOTHER - all operate on the same lousy OS.
They all burn the same gasoline.
They are all wired the same. (All --> More than 95%, but notably less than 100%.)

The exceptions aren't automatically "wife material" though.
You want to pull P? Use these games.
Because she's gaming you.
Unless you want to dance alone, you follow the rules... "The Rules" are "what works."

You feed a woman (or a submissive, for that matter) diesel instead of gasoline, the engine doesn't work (the attraction dies.)
And those of you who disagree either cannot see that you're DOING this when you're successful, or don't want to share.

But at 42, I'm past giving a f-ck, the rules are the rules. You don't follow those rules, you're trying to get rich by selling low and buying high and riding the trough each and every time...
It doesn't work.

You need to do some QA on your analysis of dating. If you have a wife in mind, PLAY THE GAME, and lock her down, and then ADJUST the game. (Buy and hold instead of flip.) But if you make her the focus of your life, YOU LOSE, end of story.

In other news, Water is still wet, and fire still burns...

-Bill

 
Dec 5, 2017 - 12:47pm
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