This is getting serious/ridiculous

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-19419521

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is carrying out daylight raids into more tech firms.

How long will this go on for before someone actually mans up and says enough is enough?

 

Intellectual property theft whether through computer hacking or actual physical theft in this case is one of the biggest problems that is facing the US today and will be even greater going into the future. Instead of using all using a third of the budget to fight a war in the middle east we need to start protecting our innovation which is part of why this country is so great and will continue to be the best.

 

Beretta, what are you suggesting we have gained through government condoned hacking of Chinese companies/entities?

“...all truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.” - Schopenhauer
 
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Theft and gov't corruption will always be around as long as there are governments and things to steal. However, more literally:

trazer985:
How long will this go on for before someone actually mans up and says enough is enough?
Likely within our lifetimes. The Chinese people are waking up and the US is pushing that envelope. Ultimately, their system isn't viable, and the US will oversee their transformation

Look at the US record of dealing with evil emires/emporers: * The British Empire, we were a bunch of farmers * The Naze machine, we were still farmers * The Soviet mega machine, we had wised up a bit * Al Queda, work in progress * China is next

The Obama administration rightly hasn't barked up that tree yet because we have some, uhm, housecleaning that is still as of yet unresolved. But it's only a matter of time. Does anyone honestly think that having a dictatorship as our global counterpart is ultimately sustainable? Common sense security stuff aside, I don't forsee a war or even cold war, probably the most effective thing is simply exporting core liberties. China's history is a cycle of centralization, stagnation, and then collapse: at some point, it's highly likely they'll change the system themselves.

It's the value system that wins, and it's important we don't lose that as we deal with those that refuse it. The US is first and foremost a set of good ideas, the rest follows from there. China is nothing more than it's old empirical self with a 21st century facade...and cracks have been forming for quite some time.

Get busy living
 

Bro, not suggesting that what they did wasn't potentially legit, but they were just pulling publicly available reports off of "sources as disparate as Google Earth, blogs, military journals and, perhaps most startlingly, a fictionalized TV docudrama about Chinese artillery soldiers — the rough equivalent of watching Fox’s TV show “24” for insights into U.S. counterterrorism efforts." They didn't hack shit, and even if they did, I don't see the indication that we are planning on going to war w China in the near future so this simply isn't nearly as readily actionable as what the Chinese did.

“...all truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.” - Schopenhauer
 

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