Will I have time to go to church on Sundays as a first year IB analyst?
Hoping to go from 10 am to around 12 pm. Thanks.
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Yes. Doubt you’ll be working too many Sundays unless you’re at a real sweatshop, and even then typically you can be a bit more flexible with your Sunday hours. Sunday work is usually not due until Monday morning, so it doesn’t matter if you’re working 9-3 or 12-6.
How does Sunday compare with Saturdays?
This is incorrect. Most of my friends and I work on sundays. At shops that do have designated time off, that usually comes on saturdays, not sundays.
Sunday is a full work day at most banks. That said, he should still have time.
yes, but bring your laptop to church in case the “plz fix” hits during communion
A question I had too. If not, I'd be finding a new place to work lol
You can always make time for that. If anyone is giving you a hard time- ask them "really..?"
I hope I'm wrong, but I'm sure there are some twat bosses out there who would give a hard time
No, it's too high risk to fight over religion haha
OP will have time to go to church.
Are you mormon?
People saying you won’t work sundays are at some whacky lax shops. You will almost certainly work sundays.
That said, unlikely there is anything that is URGENT Sunday am because it likely is a deliverable for Monday. Go to church/ mosque/ synagogue/ devil or MD-led-cult worship and tell your deal teams prior you will be OOO during that time due to religious reasons. It’s a pretty legit excuse especially for Sunday am.
Agree with this, almost every VP on up at my shop is expecting deliverables on Sunday.
Just tell people you'll be at church, 10-12 is kind of a long time so you may be expected to work extra Friday/Saturday to get ahead and not be holding your team up. And at least once every other month you just won't have time because of Monday meetings or immediate deliverables
There’s only one person saying that, and based on his commentary in the ‘South Africa’ thread, he’s none too bright.
Yeah I just watched my weekend get toasted every Thursday night by a rogue staffing or a few emails that go something like "No Deadline ... but Monday would be great"
Sounds like blocking off 2 hrs a week for your own personal time, especially on a late Sunday morning, should hopefully be workable for even the sweatiest of teams that I have heard of in ib. As long as you can communicate it up front and not make it a burden for your time, sounds like it may be a welcome break as your team can kinda feel good that they at least are giving you a steady break…. Good luck
Piper Sandler: Is that a challenge?
It might be worth it for me to note that I have minimal if any experience working with / interacting with Piper Sandler, so it is possible that I am mistaken on how they run their business / their culture there…
Don't think it should be much of an issue if you flag it early on but people here saying you wont work Sundays are blowing smoke. Sunday is a workday in banking and you are expected to be responsive. Sunday was pretty often a 10-12 hour day in my group and usually there were deliverables. No way around it for Monday / Tuesday meetings, especially in a busy group where you don't start on the materials until Thursday / Friday.
How did Saturdays compare to Sundays?
Saturday was usually “off.” So unless told otherwise, you would assume you’re not working on Saturday. However, VPs would pretty often blow you up so it was impossible to ever truly enjoy it off. If you go on a day trip or do brunch, you’re just crossing your fingers you don’t get an email.
Sunday it was assumed you were working, unless told otherwise.
LMFAO
Just curious based on some of the responses in this thread, how possible is it to travel weekends in IB? I'm in a shitty boring ass midwest city and want to be able to visit friends/family pretty frequently on weekends. Assuming I bring my laptop and get work done, is this usually pretty doable? I'm sure trips will get blown up sometimes, but does anyone have any issues traveling as long as you can bring the laptop and get work done wherever you are?
Prob depends on the team and you to some extent. I’ve heard people being able to travel and others not. Lots of variety around this. Hard to give general statements for the entire industry, though it may be helpful to note that things come up sometimes in a client service, deal-oriented environment
Main issue is that laptops are pretty tough to do IB work on, you'll be at 50% at best. You also lose a lot of hours traveling (assuming you're going to the coasts) which is fine once a quarter but not cool every other weekend. IB is also exhausting and weekend is your only time to rest. For these reasons and more, wouldn't plan on traveling more than quarterly unless it's within say 2 hours total travel time
Bad idea.
It really depends honestly. A lot of groups I worked with, including my own, had normalized WFH on the weekends. So didn’t matter where you were as long as things got done. Others are more traditional.
Even if it wasn't religion-related (which I think teams would take more seriously), I still believe taking ~2 hours out on a Sunday is completely plausible. I think just make sure to communicate earlier with your team regarding your situation
I honestly can't believe most of us normalise this crazy idea of expecting Sunday work and having to practically beg for 2 hours off to go to church. Always known banking was a crazy place but these comments hit it home
Eh, I don't think you have to beg for time on Sundays. It's always good to communicate your plans, especially if it's a group that tends to work most Sundays.
For me I even get 9:30 am calls scheduled for Sunday mornings with the expectation that I should be available. My Sundays are pretty much "Mondays" for me as it's treated as a normal work day. Can't wait to leave this job....
Tell your teams church is important to you and they will do what they can. Not saying you might not miss one or two (or more) but they will be respectful
YOU JUST SOLD YOUR SOUL!
You certainly can. When I was a first year analyst year ago, one of the first things I did was pull each team member aside and let them know I wouldn't be available in the certain window on Sunday because I had church. They all totally understood and respected it.
That may have meant I did more work Sat night or had to jam after church, but I have never missed church once since then.
Just do good work, be communicative and it should all totally work out.
While I worked almost every single Sunday in IB, it was still the slowest day of the week. People would usually crawl in around 10 or 10:30 am to start the day. So, if you have morning church, you could make it without skipping a beat.
Also, I had an understanding VP who knew that I went to church almost every Sunday. Without even asking, he came up to me one day and said, "Hey man, you know if you ever want to go to church on Sunday. Don't worry about it. Just go and show up to work afterward. I totally get it."
+1 SB for making this a priority!
in the Kingdom of God
Our Lord and Savior: “Why did you skip mass on every holy day of obligation?”
(Potentially) You: “Because I was too busy rearranging PowerPoint slides for my VP.”
I don’t mean to mock you, but it is important to keep things in perspective. If you are sincere in your religious beliefs, anything that prohibits you from fulfilling even the most basic duty of faith should not be considered.
Bro is this a joke 😂
As long as you communicate with your team, shouldn’t be a problem. Know a few people that are orthodox and get time for religious duties.
Yeah man. I’m no longer in banking but I think I made almost every Sunday when I wasn’t out of town. I may have had do a 7am mass some busy Sundays. As I’ve gotten older, I have less issues pushing back and saying I can’t do a call during church, but that takes time to get comfortable. Most reasonable people will work with you
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