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Jul 18, 2012

Pretty sure this has been discussed like 400 times.

I believe there's a mobile version of the site but there won't be an app in the short term if I remember what Patrick said about it most recently.

If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses - Henry Ford

Jul 18, 2012

Mobile version of the site is live and soon there will be a bookmark icon you can easily install on your iphone & android devices for easy access to the site.

Jul 19, 2012
WallStreetOasis.com:

Mobile version of the site is live and soon there will be a bookmark icon you can easily install on your iphone & android devices for easy access to the site.

This is actually native in WebOS (HP Touchpad operating system). It's really nice. One touch takes you to your "Track" tab.

Jul 18, 2012

One of the biggest things missing from the mobile site is the "track" tab. Would be great if someone can put that in.

Jul 18, 2012

Is there an option to view the normal site? The mobile version is very good, but there are a few things I can't do on the mobile app with my phone.

Jul 30, 2012

What additional things would people want on a WSO app that isn't already presented in the mobile version...? I know my fair share of iOS developers that would (believe it or not) probably be willing to code things up as a side project. But if there's no time-cost benefit to a mobile app, then why devote the time to write the code.

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Jul 30, 2012

+1 to adding "track" on the mobile site as well.

Jul 30, 2012

yes track for sure, and an app would just be convenient to all the users. then you wouldnt have to pull up your browser and all that garbage, straight to the app would be nice

Jul 30, 2012

Its not that its any different to the mobile site it (an app) would just let the users interact more than they would if you only had the mobile site and no app

Jul 30, 2012

Hey guys, can you clarify what you mean by track? I thought I'd enabled it on the mobile, but clearly what I thought was track and what you guys are looking for is different.

Jul 30, 2012

On the iPhone, you can make an icon on your homescreen, but it really only opens up your browser.

Jul 30, 2012
BTbanker:

On the iPhone, you can make an icon on your homescreen, but it really only opens up your browser.

same on android. add a bookmark widget.

an app would be cool

Jul 30, 2012

Hm, interesting I never tried that. Patrick, time for an app? :P

Jul 30, 2012

Maybe nothing really different but having the same functionality and maybe even some added stuff would be pretty cool. In essence, you guys wouldn't have to create something entirely new. If you want/need a referral to a good coder who can do the development for you at a low cost let me know, Patrick.

Jul 30, 2012

Add Wall Street Oasis to Flipboard on iOS or Android. Looks beautiful and gives you everything a native app would in this case.

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Jul 30, 2012

I would also be interested if there was a WSO app.

Jul 30, 2012

I appreciate your Effort which used for provide some interesting data. The feedback process is definitely not as smooth as it could be / should be. For example, even the popups that show up now in some apps, that ask for a review only link the user to the app's app store page. It is then up to them to find the ratings section and click on that to get to the "leave a review" page.
I recently visit one Iphone App Reviews website, which is also helpful for us.

Jul 30, 2012

Has there been new developments on the possibility of an app? I would totally be willing to pay a few bucks for an ad free version of a WSO app!

Jul 30, 2012

I was thinking exactly the same thing, a WSO app would be awesome for iOS(what I use). So I searched it and realized that the mobile site is actually a great resource and very intuitive. It leaves little to be desired.

Although I think a mobile app would solidify WSO in the mass consumer market, the mobile site is great.

Jul 30, 2012

Question related: Whats with the top nav bar now? Before we had the top nav bar with the icons but now below that we also have "Inbox (x)" "My Profile" "Logout" with the other "Recent" "FAQs" etc.

Basically the features are in two places on the screen now.

Jul 30, 2012

Looks fine to me...but the again, I didn't have any issues with it before..

Jul 30, 2012

See the top? Two logout options, two profile options, two inbox options.

Jul 30, 2012
yeahright:

See the top? Two logout options, two profile options, two inbox options.

wow, your screen is all sorts of messed up....can you tell me what browser you are in?

your start button is split in 2, the 468x60 ad is not properly aligned and you are seeing 2 sets of menus...anyone else seeing this? please provide operating system/browser you are on.

Thanks!

Jul 30, 2012

that was IE8

this is IE7:

gonna clear cache and cookies and see if its picking up old stuff, see if it cleares anything up and will report back

Jul 30, 2012
yeahright:

that was IE8

this is IE7:

gonna clear cache and cookies and see if its picking up old stuff, see if it cleares anything up and will report back

yeah, think it's your cache...please clear browser cache...

Jul 30, 2012

My fat sausage fingers thank you.

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Jul 30, 2012
Flake:

My fat sausage fingers thank you.

We need more drunk Flake on the forums, so this is a good thing.

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Jul 30, 2012

thanks for the feedback and sorry about my delay in responding. I think we can improve the mobile site and I'd love for you to give me feedback on that. How can we make it easier to use on Safari?

going down the app route is a lot of technical debt when my tech team is already stretched thin...

Thanks,
Patrick

Jul 30, 2012

I agree that an app would be great. Kind of like Quora's. I like how I can get emails on my iPhone and then I can click on the link to take me to the app because it is much more streamlined. I don't think it is bad to view the forums on Safari, but I don't comment when I am on my phone then (writing from a computer right now). Maybe if we had an online petition to see how much interest from the community there is, we could see who would be willing to pay 1 or 2 dollars, and then that could help cover development costs if you had a fundraising commitment on the website. Just a thought...

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Jul 30, 2012

Nice one. Also if wso website could be made iPhone native as well :)

Jul 30, 2012

a) this has been discussed before
b) i know nothing about app development
c) i completely agree

Jul 30, 2012

I think a format similar to the iphone facebook app would work well.

Jul 30, 2012

I agree with Dublin verbatim

I think you have to remember too that you can't really look at it from the perspective of 'make it like the facebook app'. You can't really compare Facebook to WSO in terms of usage, ROI etc. WSO is fantastic and has a fairly large group of users that post frequently but the cost of making an app similar to facebook's would be immense and I don't know if WSO has the community size to support that kind of expenditure. While I would love a WSO app, I'm just trying to be practical. Obviously Illini can speak to the other issues and obstacles involved but just something to think about...

If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses - Henry Ford

Jul 30, 2012

What kinds of features are you guys looking for? Or just a mobile version of the website?

I think the iphone works so well because most messages that go through it are 100 characters in length, not 1000. Typing three paragraphs is a different use case than sending a one-sentence response via text. You can to keep reviewing different stuff in context and really need a larger area to work with visually. So the logistics of reading a post from WSO and responding to it are probably more complicated than a lot of folks first imagine.

There are ways to do this, but the developer certainly has his or her work cut out for him just for the read/post stuff. This is a place where you need an experienced GUI developer to handle this. Not some college kid or codemonkey on scriptlance.

It's a cost-benefit Patrick will need to evaluate. If Patrick needs a starting point on prices, he's got dozens of professional developers, some of whom invariably work with GUIs and network messaging, who are members of this site.

Jul 30, 2012

I have a friend who works for a company that develops mobile apps for clients, and I was told that they charge anywhere from $50k to 200k. I'm no business man, but that doesn't sound crazy expensive.

Jul 30, 2012

^^^ That sounds about right. I was thinking tens of thousands, bare minimum for anything with production-level quality.

The primary language for iphone development is C. It is a very cumbersome language to code for, although it runs very efficiently.

Now $50K-200K is a lot of money, but it might be easier to pay for it in the form of equity if it enhances the value of WSO by a certain percentage.

Jul 30, 2012

Pretty sure it's objective C, which is a lot easier to deal with than C. They also have a pretty user friendly platform for app development. I'm not an expert though so I'll defer to your experience.

Jul 30, 2012

I know for me, all I'd be looking for is a mobile-friendly version of the site, no added functionality per se.

Jul 30, 2012
dublin:

I know for me, all I'd be looking for is a mobile-friendly version of the site, no added functionality per se.

Co-sign. Then again, I've never used WSO on my phone unless I receive a PM so I'm not sure how much demand there would be for that either.

Jul 30, 2012

While I think the app would be cool, after thinking more about it, meh. I mean, you've got a lot of people visiting the site, but is it really going to make THAT big of a difference? I probably wouldn't ever use it, but thats cause the Incredible eats batteries like you wouldnt imagine.

Jul 30, 2012

how do all you people in finance have iphones? or do you use 2 phones, a work and personal one?

Jul 30, 2012
marcellus_wallace:

how do all you people in finance have iphones? or do you use 2 phones, a work and personal one?

I know what you mean but except editing docs (without the use of 3rd party apps), iPhone has all the features of a bb device. Hence, many bankers use iPhone as well.

Jul 30, 2012

I have two phones. Already had an iphone, and then my company bought me a blackberry, which sucks btw.

Jul 30, 2012

Got two phones as well. I have a phone then my company bought me an iPhone. Company lets me pick any phone / service provider I want.

Jul 30, 2012

I had an iphone, switched to an android phone. I like the android much better. But i do think an app would be a great idea

Jul 30, 2012

I second this.

Jul 30, 2012

I have given up using WSO on my iphone.

Jul 30, 2012

Patrick said he was looking into it a few months ago, I think it was more of a cost issue and finding someone to actually do it.

Reality hits you hard, bro...

Jul 30, 2012

Ya I have no idea what it takes to make a good app...
WSO on iphone is fucking miserable

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Jul 30, 2012

yeah, in talks with a few potential developers. there are some tough challenges including upkeep, finding a good developer, making sure it's platform agnostic (since many finance people still use blackberry and android devices).

ideallly we get an html5 app developed, i just an not sure how whole process works -- and besides some insane quotes, haven't met a team or developer that can deliver something that meets these qualifications or stepped up. But we are active in looking so if anyone knows someone, please let us know

I think PhoneGap looks interesting, but how to maintain / host it worries me. I know we are going to go mobile, it's just a question on timing and making sure we do it right.

Thanks

Jul 30, 2012

Great idea. You program it.

IPhone apps are written in C I believe and are genuinely hard-core programming. This is not VBA, not even the lighter Java that I work with.

An easier solution might be to do an Iphone-friendly implementation. Patrick can set up a script to grab browser info and if it's IPhone's safari, redirect to a lighter weight version of the site.

Jul 30, 2012
IlliniProgrammer:

Great idea. You program it.

IPhone apps are written in C I believe and are genuinely hard-core programming. This is not VBA, not even the lighter Java that I work with.

An easier solution might be to do an Iphone-friendly implementation. Patrick can set up a script to grab browser info and if it's IPhone's safari, redirect to a lighter weight version of the site.

problem with this approach is the heavy caching for performance. We had a mobile version of the site (lighter weight) about 2 years ago, but what happens is that even though that lighter weight theme is only supposed to load when mobile devices hit the site...in reality, those mobile pages get cached and we were getting a lot of people in chrome saying they were getting the mobile version even though they were on their laptops/desktops.

that's why I'm thinking a mobile app might be a better, although admittedly harder way to go...

Jul 30, 2012

i've done both Android and iPhone development (still do) and I can tell you that keeping it agnostic is just about impossible. The approaches and languages and just so different that you can really only take it so far. With my apps, I can create a common web service and thats where the similarities end. So it's a SOA-based architecture, but you still need to main two codebases (or three if you do BB) in order to keep yourself working with both iPhone and Android. I happen to be very good to do what I do, but its somewhat challenging to find a single shop that can handle both Java and Objective C AND be versed on the process to actually deploy your app for each one of the platforms. Knowing how to navigate the Apple iTunes for developers alone is a skill in itself!

Jul 30, 2012

I think trying to figure out something that is tailored to anything other than iPhone or Android is foolish, just IMO -- yes a lot of people in finance still use BB, but I don't think I know anyone who doesn't have their own personal iphone or android device. Trying to make something for BB is just a waste of time/money from my perspective

Jul 30, 2012

Agree that you can limit the scope to Android and iPhone. I don't know anyone that doesn't own one or the other in lieu of or in addition to their bberry.

If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses - Henry Ford

Jul 30, 2012
happypantsmcgee:

Agree that you can limit the scope to Android and iPhone. I don't know anyone that doesn't own one or the other in lieu of or in addition to their bberry.

ha, guess I'm bankeriffic or old school?

Jul 30, 2012

...but yeah, ok, I hear you - I'd be fine just going android and iphone...at least it's a start.

GentlemanJack: "challenging to find a single shop that can handle both Java and Objective C AND be versed on the process to actually deploy your app for each one of the platforms. Knowing how to navigate the Apple iTunes for developers alone is a skill in itself!"

...that is becoming more and more obvious to me each month that passes. The issue is as a forum heavy website, we need something that allows user to easily comment from their mobile device, so it can't be just a pretty set of RSS feeds.

GJ, do you think you'd be able to pull it off? Do you have the tme?

Thanks,
Patrick

Jul 30, 2012

I agree!!!!!

They call me TheMailMan because I always deliver.

Jul 30, 2012

That would be legit.

"For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?"

Jul 30, 2012

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Jul 30, 2012

This is such a great idea, I can't believe no one has thought of it before!

Jul 30, 2012

you should make one

Jul 30, 2012
swagon:

you should make one

I would if I had the time

Jul 30, 2012

I'd download it.

"For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?"

Jul 30, 2012

I'd pay $1.50 for it

Jul 30, 2012
M Friedman:

I'd pay $1.50 for it

Let's not give anybody any ideas now...

Jul 30, 2012

I'd use it as well.

Jul 30, 2012

I think WSO gets around 1,000,000 hits a month, an app would definitely be worth looking into..
My site gets waaay less and even Im looking into developing one.

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