Teachers vs. Wall Street
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on 3/5/11 at 1:07pm
Thought this was hilarious. Just want to piss off ANT really. :D






If you don't see the
If you don't see the hypocrisy of the right wing right now, you are truly blind.
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Loved it.
Loved it.
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lolz pretty funny saw this
lolz pretty funny saw this last night
i personally think mixing some right wing and left wing ideas together brews the best possible outcome for our country... except given that the reps 'won' the wall street thing and if the dems 'win' this union thing we'll have a mixture but a god-awful worst possible case scenario. mixture.
TheKing wrote: If you don't
If you don't see the hypocrisy of the right wing right now, you are truly blind.
Really ,because I think you are the one that is blind.
The fact that the teachers are public employees and Wall Street is a private company makes all the difference in the world and don't give me that crap about the bailout because I really don't want to get into a debate about it being right and wrong and will only point out that Uncle Sam got paid back with about 20% interest--drop it already. The difference between private and public employees is the same reason no one cares about how much a football player or a movie star makes---it's none of our goddamn business. If you ask me the difference between right and left is how people think. When I was younger , I saw movie stars and rich guys all over TV and I thought "How do I make my own fortune?" A person on the left looks at someone who is rich and thinks "How do I make what's their's mine?"
The argument about paying bonuses to retain talent was a valid point and also touched on keeping the free market economy with pay. A union stops the free market economy with pay from functioning and forces schools to keep every teacher regardless of skill. Everyone loves to talk about how much teacher pay will be hurt, but did you ever consider the possibiliites.....How shocking that the best teacher in the school might actually receive the largest paycheck or that marginal teachers actually lose their job.
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Hahah sb for this. Thanks for
Hahah sb for this. Thanks for the laugh
It's what you put into it
Loved how it was the same
Loved how it was the same woman (Fox news anchor) arguing for rescinding teacher contracts, but for keeping Wall Street contacts. Major props to the daily show for catching it - you could not make hypocrisy like this up.
Yeah, because some moronic
Yeah, because some moronic comedian is who I want to get my news from.
I love people who shit all over Fox News and then in the same breath will say how they are informed watching comedy central. What a joke.
Wall Street is a private employer. They generate profits and get to keep some of those profits.
Teachers are salaried, public workers. They do not generate profits. They teach. Schools are not private companies with investors that demand returns.
Yawn. Liberal bullshit.
I honestly wish we would have let all the banks fail. It would be hilarious to see this country descend into the stone age again and all public pensions disappear. I am sure main street would love it with all the bank runs. Also, all the companies that employ main street would be thriving without their LOC's, swaps, etc.
Man oh man, just think of the good ol days. Everyones 401(k)'s wiped out. So sweet. Main street would be having a party.
Hey Monkey, try spending some time reading and watching quality material. Comedy Central is garbage and so it Stewart.
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ant just riped u to pieces OP
ant just riped u to pieces OP

I also love how everyone uses
I also love how everyone uses the bailout as if people on Wall Street got away scott free.
Nothing like two major banks going under, a couple major banks having to be acquired, massive layoffs and slow downs, etc.
Naa. Wall Street got bailed out. They don't do anything for this country. Teachers pensions are not invested in the market at all.
Yeah, retired people don't invest in money markets or anything.
Bankers put guns to the heads of investors and forced them to lie on mortgage contracts or triple leverage their life.
Dick Fuld personally went into people's houses and held their family hostage until they maxed out their Visa on H2's and plasma TV's.
I am waiting for Wall Street to be arrested on criminal threats and false imprisonment charges for holding these people against their will or intimidating them.
It was all Wall Streets fault. Only Wall Street.
They also do nothing. Companies don't need to go public or raise capital for expansions. Who needs bonds or a liquid market.
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I saw the OP and the
I saw the OP and the following comments and was going to say something...then I scrolled down to see Gekko21 and Ant came in and just owned this place...so I'll sit on the side and enjoy.
This shit blows my mind. I
This shit blows my mind.
I would have no problem paying for good teachers. How much money do private school teachers make? No one complains about that.
Actually, this is pretty interesting.
Private school teachers produce a much better product, with no unions or pensions. They have a higher salary though.
How come no one is comparing public school teachers with private ones.
Public school teachers are producing a shit product. I agree that their job is hard and teaching is miserable, but everyone knows this going in. If you know the facts going in and you still do it, you should be responsible for the product you produce.
" I knew banking was hard and long, I knew it was intense and what would be required, but now that I am working I want you to pay me XYZ and uphold my contract even though I am doing a shitty job and taking naps, cool?"
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I believe this thread is the
I believe this thread is the equivalent of putting a coke in a paint shaker.
ANT is the can of coke. Don't hurt yourself man :D
I stopped watching the Daily
I stopped watching the Daily Show a while ago; now I remember why.
I am sick of people like John Stewart bashing "bankers" and "Wall Street" when 99% of people on the street had no involvement in the crisis.
If anyone on the street was responsible, it was the risk management and real estate securitization employees. Even so, blame really should roll down hill in this instance, down to the local branch giving a mortgage to a family that can't repay it, and finally to that family for accepting the loan. Ignorance is no excuse- a home purchase is the largest financial transaction most people ever participate in, so it would only make sense to understand it.
Not to bash on teachers (a lot of my family members are teachers), but they are not exactly the best and the brightest. If a Harvard grad putting in 100+ hour weeks shouldn't be making 6 figures, who should? On a per hour basis, including benefits, these teachers are probably better compensated than the average IBD analyst.
Teacher compensation is excessive relative to the other options for those people. Where else can somebody with a BA in Communications in the bottom third of their class at a barely accredited university make 100k all in? Even federal employees don't have it that good.
Finally, as previous posters said, it comes down to public vs. private. Private firms maximize profit; if they don't, they go under. Public firms are under an obligation to minimize costs. Even if you halved benefits, I seriously doubt these teachers would quit; they would still be better off than anywhere else.
Dick Fuld also went to
Dick Fuld also went to college and told kids that if they didn't go into teaching he would kill their whole family. Now that they are in teaching, they cannot leave because they are drugged and forced against their will to stay in their field.
The US government keeps teachers drugged and restricts their internet access. They also have their fingers broken so they cannot type and update their resumes, thereby preventing them from looking for other careers.
Teachers are a lot like bankers. Once a banker gets laid off they kill themselves because they can't do other things or possibly change careers.
It sucks to not have free will or live in a free country :(. One day in America, you will be free to choose your career and if you get into a job you don't like, you will be free to leave that job and do something else. Until America becomes free, teachers will be forced to be shitty at their job, complain about it all the time, yet continually get more and more money.
One day . . .
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West Coast rainmaker
Teacher compensation is excessive relative to the other options for those people. Where else can somebody with a BA in Communications in the bottom third of their class at a barely accredited university make 100k all in? Even federal employees don't have it that good.
Forget Harvard, bottom tier...all that stuff. Just look at the salary figure that you stated + benefits...and now compute this: 40 hours per week (with an abundance of sick days) + 3 full months of full vacation (where they can choose to make a pretty penny or go chase around hookers in Las Vegas.) That is ridiculous compensation for the nature of the work.
What I love is how teachers
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Stop it guys. There is
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Econ, WTF. There is hypocrisy
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ANT wrote: This shit blows my
So you are against Soros and
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ANT wrote: So wait. Teachers
$400MM that we tax at the top
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