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Undergraduate - USC vs UNC
 

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blackid
     
 
(Monkey, 65
 
Points)
 on 5/10/12 at 12:24pm
College

Hey, I'm a transfer for a local community college (had to go for financial and personal reasons).

Anyway, I've been accepted to USC and UNC. Waitlisted at Harvard and Amherst and rejected at Brown and Cornell. Columbia and Penn release their decisions today, but I'm not expecting much.

For USC I've been accepted into the Marshall School and UNC the College of Arts and Science. Which one would be the better choice? Also, I'm a minority so which school will be more diverse and all that? I've only been out of Texas (home state) a handful of times for conferences and extracurricular related stuff, so I'm pretty clueless about the social scenes at both schools.

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Also, Amherst is my top choice and I'm drafting a waitlist follow-up letter. Does anyone have any experience writing these for business school? I'm sure the advice would be useful even in my situation.

Thanks in advance.

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duffmt6's picture

USC is really diverse in the

duffmt6
      IB
 
 
(Neanderthal, 2,312
 
Points)
 on 5/10/12 at 12:34pm

USC is really diverse in the sense that there's a ton of Asians.

Any chance you can get into the bus school at UNC? I would personally go Chapel Hill in regards to undergraduate experience.

"Social cohesion and puritanical morality place roughly on my list of concerns between whether I'll pick up jock itch at the gym this week (not likely, since I don't go the gym) and whether it'll rain in Christchurch, New Zealand next Tuesday."
-Eddie

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blackid's picture

I might be able to pull off

blackid
     
 
(Monkey, 65
 
Points)
 on 5/10/12 at 12:36pm

I might be able to pull off the necessary GPA to get into K-F, but that would have to be after a semester at the very least.

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NYU's picture

Harvard gives you the best

NYU
      PE
 
(Baboon, 160
 
Points)
 on 5/10/12 at 12:38pm

Harvard gives you the best chance of writing your own ticket in the future in my opinion. Go there if you can. Amherst is another great school.

If it's between USC and UNC: I'd go UNC unless you're very well off. USC and LA are awesome if you have money to spend to keep up with all the Kardashians out there. I think you have plenty of time for that when you're out of school and living in a city. UNC has more of a college atmosphere which you only get one crack at in life.

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cibo's picture

If you get Harvard or

cibo
     
 
(Baboon, 164
 
Points)
 on 5/10/12 at 1:01pm

If you get Harvard or Amherst, you take those.

Between USC and UNC.

Go USC. You want to do college in the west coast. Fuck this bullshit about college atmosphere, the weather rocks and the city always has something to do.

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Old Grand-Dad's picture

Go to Carolina, kick ass and

Old Grand-Dad
      IB
 
(Senior Baboon, 180
 
Points)
 on 5/10/12 at 1:11pm

Go to Carolina, kick ass and get into Kenan Flagler. What year are you?

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SECfinance's picture

You say you had to go to CC

SECfinance
      IB
 
(King Kong, 1,414
 
Points)
 on 5/10/12 at 1:13pm

You say you had to go to CC for financial reasons among others - what is your financial situation like? UNC is cheaper than USC, and like NYU said, it takes $$ to be able to have a good time in LA.

What year will you be - junior?

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blackid's picture

I'm a junior and school money

blackid
     
 
(Monkey, 65
 
Points)
 on 6/14/12 at 4:25pm

I'm a junior and school money isn't really an issue as I'm a Jack Kent Cooke Scholar (basically 30k scholarship). As for my financial situation, I'm pretty broke, haha. I'm really interested in entrepreneurship and finance, but I'm hoping to work for a BB for 2 years, get an MBA (hopefully full ride) at McCombs and open shop.

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andyinsandiego's picture

cibo: If you get Harvard or

andyinsandiego
      CF
 
(Orangutan, 333
 
Points)
 on 5/10/12 at 1:41pm
cibo:

If you get Harvard or Amherst, you take those.

Between USC and UNC.

Go USC. You want to do college in the west coast. Fuck this bullshit about college atmosphere, the weather rocks and the city always has something to do.

This is the correct answer. I'm originally from Texas, and while Texas is far and away the greatest state in the country, the best area of the country to complete your undergrad is southern California.

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andyinsandiego's picture

Also your username is great.

andyinsandiego
      CF
 
(Orangutan, 333
 
Points)
 on 5/10/12 at 1:42pm

Also your username is great.

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SC911's picture

IM HARVARD

SC911
     
 
(Baboon, 118
 
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 on 5/10/12 at 1:56pm

IM HARVARD

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NYU's picture

Southern Cal is amazing and

NYU
      PE
 
(Baboon, 160
 
Points)
 on 5/10/12 at 1:59pm

Southern Cal is amazing and your jaw will hit pavement when you see the quality out there but the sad part is they all want to go to Hyde and hook up with the guy they saw Seacrest interviewing 10 minutes ago on Extra.

SC is a target rich environment but relatively speaking you have a pea shooter out there if you aren't pushing a hot car and pounding up every doorman while being whisked away to your table near the dance floor.

Needless to say it sounds like you have good problems to work through.

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kmzz's picture

white grls love black guys go

kmzz
      O
 
(Senior Gorilla, 757
 
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 on 5/10/12 at 2:15pm

white grls love black guys
go to sc

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andyinsandiego: cibo: If

npr00
     
 
(Senior Chimp, 17
 
Points)
 on 5/10/12 at 2:15pm
andyinsandiego:
cibo:

If you get Harvard or Amherst, you take those.

Between USC and UNC.

Go USC. You want to do college in the west coast. Fuck this bullshit about college atmosphere, the weather rocks and the city always has something to do.

This is the correct answer. I'm originally from Texas, and while Texas is far and away the greatest state in the country., the best area of the country to complete your undergrad is southern California.

Truer words have never been written!

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duffmt6's picture

I chose Wake Forest over USC

duffmt6
      IB
 
 
(Neanderthal, 2,312
 
Points)
 on 5/10/12 at 2:33pm

I chose Wake Forest over USC when I was deciding on undergrad - didn't love the USC campus (a gem surrounded by ghetto) and didn't love LA when I visited. Had I gotten off the UNC wait list, Wake and USC wouldn't haven even been in the picture. It's obviously a very personal decision, but I can at least tell you that UNC kicks ass.

"Social cohesion and puritanical morality place roughly on my list of concerns between whether I'll pick up jock itch at the gym this week (not likely, since I don't go the gym) and whether it'll rain in Christchurch, New Zealand next Tuesday."
-Eddie

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cibo: If you get Harvard or

West Coast rainmaker
      ER
 
 
(Neanderthal, 2,072
 
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 on 5/10/12 at 2:53pm
cibo:

If you get Harvard or Amherst, you take those.

Between USC and UNC.

Go USC. You want to do college in the west coast. Fuck this bullshit about college atmosphere, the weather rocks and the city always has something to do.

Absolutely. USC is probably one of the best college experiences in the country. I would have gone there myself (or UCSB, UCSD) if I was not so prestige obsessed. Also, Marshall is better than a "maybe" for Kenan Flagler.

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iamUNC's picture

I was actually in the same

iamUNC
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(Monkey, 31
 
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 on 5/10/12 at 3:01pm
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As long as everyone is

prospie
     
 
(King Kong, 1,676
 
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 on 5/10/12 at 4:32pm

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andyinsandiego's picture

duffmt6: I chose Wake Forest

andyinsandiego
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(Orangutan, 333
 
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 on 5/10/12 at 4:35pm
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ginNtonic's picture

Go to UNC. Unless you become

ginNtonic
     
 
(Gorilla, 562
 
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 on 5/10/12 at 4:42pm
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cibo's picture

LA doesn't need as much money

cibo
     
 
(Baboon, 164
 
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 on 5/10/12 at 5:21pm
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blackid's picture

So I just got my results from

blackid
     
 
(Monkey, 65
 
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 on 5/11/12 at 1:06pm
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andyinsandiego's picture

I'm interested to see your

andyinsandiego
      CF
 
(Orangutan, 333
 
Points)
 on 5/11/12 at 9:43am
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Ryanloop's picture

My daughter is struggling

Ryanloop
     
 
(Senior Chimp, 20
 
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 on 5/11/12 at 10:51am

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andyinsandiego: I'm

blackid
     
 
(Monkey, 65
 
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 on 5/13/12 at 5:08pm
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holla_back's picture

blackid: I'm allergic to debt

holla_back
      O
 
(King Kong, 1,091
 
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 on 5/13/12 at 6:11pm
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blackid's picture

Any more comments? I'm still

blackid
     
 
(Monkey, 65
 
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 on 5/15/12 at 1:39am
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If it counts for anything,

holla_back
      O
 
(King Kong, 1,091
 
Points)
 on 5/15/12 at 1:41am
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OMS's picture

this is easy, go to USC.

OMS
      PE
 
 
(King Kong, 1,886
 
Points)
 on 5/15/12 at 1:51am
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blackid's picture

Why do you pick USC?

blackid
     
 
(Monkey, 65
 
Points)
 on 5/16/12 at 4:04am
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duffmt6's picture

oldmansacks: this is easy, go

duffmt6
      IB
 
 
(Neanderthal, 2,312
 
Points)
 on 5/16/12 at 6:58pm

"Social cohesion and puritanical morality place roughly on my list of concerns between whether I'll pick up jock itch at the gym this week (not likely, since I don't go the gym) and whether it'll rain in Christchurch, New Zealand next Tuesday."
-Eddie

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kmzz: white grls love black

Johnny Ringo
      HF
 
(Senior Orangutan, 474
 
Points)
 on 5/17/12 at 10:00am

Eventus stultorum magister.

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2fast4u's picture

Waitlisted at Harvard? That's

2fast4u
     
 
(Chimp, 8
 
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 on 5/17/12 at 8:01pm
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blackid's picture

You will need to write a

blackid
     
 
(Monkey, 65
 
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 on 5/17/12 at 8:21pm
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thanks man, i appreciate it

2fast4u
     
 
(Chimp, 8
 
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 on 5/18/12 at 10:25am
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blackid's picture

I was accepted off the

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(Monkey, 65
 
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 on 6/14/12 at 4:08pm
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blackid: I was accepted off

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 on 6/14/12 at 4:24pm
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blackid's picture

Is the difference between

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(Monkey, 65
 
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 on 6/15/12 at 2:46pm
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blackid: Is the difference

cibo
     
 
(Baboon, 164
 
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 on 6/16/12 at 11:11am
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blackid: I was accepted off

seedy underbelly
      IB
 
(King Kong, 1,090
 
Points)
 on 6/16/12 at 11:39am
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blackid: Is the difference

seedy underbelly
      IB
 
(King Kong, 1,090
 
Points)
 on 6/16/12 at 11:44am
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Disclosure Policy: We do not normally disclose personal information to anyone outside of the Company unless we have previously informed users about the disclosures. However, some data may be used from time to time by outside contractors, including auditors or consultants, to assist us in carrying out necessary financial or operational activities. These uses will be consistent with this privacy policy and all contractors using this potential personal information must agree to safeguard it, to use it only for the authorized purpose, and to return it or destroy it upon completion of the activity.

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Web Logs: The Company maintains standard Web logs that record basic information about visitors to our Web site. These logs contain: * The Internet domain from which you came to our Web site. * Your IP address. An IP address is a series of numbers which uniquely identifies your connection to the Internet. Although it is possible in some instances, certain types of IP addresses may be used by interested persons to identify users but we do not attempt to identify users in this way. * The type of browser (e.g., Internet Explorer or Netscape) and operating system (e.g., Windows 98) you use. * The date and time you visited the site, and the pages you saw.

We use Web log information to design our Web site, identify popular features, and in similar ways. We do not try to identify individuals from Web logs or to link Web logs to other user information. However, if someone tries to damage our Web site or use it in an unauthorized or illegal way, we may share Web log information with law enforcement agencies. The Company may provide aggregate information such as the number of users who visit particular pages of the site, or the number of people who link to certain external sites from our site, to other parties.

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The Company's features and services will change over time and our information-gathering practices and policies may also change.

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