Got fired - what next?
Hey guys, I got fired from my analyst role yesterday. Honestly, I'm not sure what to do now. Will my next role see that I got let go? It was my first job so am I screwed?
Hey guys, I got fired from my analyst role yesterday. Honestly, I'm not sure what to do now. Will my next role see that I got let go? It was my first job so am I screwed?
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Keep applying, networking, and hustle. Don't settle down and feel crappy, it doesn't do you any good. It's a situation that overthinking is detrimental for you.
Would it be a concern to job search immediately after I was let go and I would have to disclose I was fired?
Prospective employers won’t fixate on why “you left”. If it comes up say there was a layoff effecting several positions. Your old employer won’t ever comment on why you left, only your dates of employment.
Details on what led to this / were any warnings given?
No warning, just lack of fit, vague response
If that's truly the case, I wouldn't sweat it. Banks are dying for talent and if you can spin it the right way, you should be able to find something. It may not be equivalent, but it shouldn't be too far of a step down.
Was in a similar boat last year, finally landed a role in private credit after literally a year of searching. Wanted to do IB after graduating but just couldn't break in and thought I was finally settled when I was let go for 'lack of fit' after 9 months. It sucked hard at first but ended up getting an offer at a MM PE shop. Just keep your head up and keep applying. Reach out to any and all networks, networks of networks and recruiters. You're in a better position than you were when you graduated because at the very least you have SOME work experience
Reason doesn't matter. Spin a story.
What does matter is what size firm. Rare for a BB analyst to get fired after a year. Common with boutiques.
Flipside is it is easier to rebound with the BB brand - by going to a MM. With boutiques, it is about conveying the proper story about what happened.
I'm coming from a BB so that's rough. Do I have to disclose I was let go in interviews/networking or should I say I'm making the decision to jump ship?
When is your last day? It'll be publicly disclosed on FINRA Broker Check what your last official day is.
Explain why BB wasn't a fit and why new firm is better for your skill-set. Don't say you were let go but don't lie if asked.
Take a few days off, figure out what you want to do.
Don't go back to banking, go do something you're interested in.
Need more detail, but here is something that might be helpful:
I have a friend who got let go last year. He asked if he can still stay on for another month so he won’t have to mentioned he got “let go”. Firm was okay with it, and it made the conversations with other firms easier because they never have to know you were let go.
If you can reach an understanding with your firm, at the very lease them not ratting you out when new employers are checking for references, your life will be much easier.
Does that mean he was still working for the month?
Not sure the details. I think they gave him one month pay severance or something so it’s the same thing as extra month on payroll. I doubt he was working. Also this is a boutique. I saw you said you’re at a BB so might not be as flexible but maybe they won’t disclose too much when checking references. You probably won’t have a problem regardless as long as you move down to MM.
Consider why you got fired. Can you fix it at the next gig? Do you want to fix it? If it's a 'no', take a breather and evaluate other career options.
Getting fired can be stressful. Hang in there and believe in yourself. Remember many will go thru' this 'milestone' in their careers. Face this well and you will thank yourself for being resilient.
Similar thing happened to me recently (ignore title). First thing is first, do you want to stay in IB? If yes, then here are some of the steps you could take.
Setbacks happen. You'll pull through. It was a big hit to my self-confidence when I went through something similar and I started doubting myself. Remember how far you've come and that you are still very early on in your career. If you need to chat privately, I'll PM you from a burner account.
Tap into your network with the story you've formed and go find that next role. Good luck dude and keep us posted.
Thanks for this. I am not from the U.S., but am looking for roles there, is this still applicable to me in terms of FINRA? Do you mind DMing me?
PM me on this account.
If you're not from the US, find out how these things are filed in your country. Seems like you're in Canada, so I'll let you do the research for the equivalent of the FINRA Form U5
What if you're not registered with FINRA when you were fired, but you end up getting registered at the next firm? Will the 2nd firm find out?
Unsure about that. You can check https://brokercheck.finra.org/ to see if there are any disclosures against you. If you were actually fired though, don't you have to disclose that during background / new hire process at the new firm?
Hey could you please PM me too? I have some follow up questions. Is the U5 form just for banks? I spoke to my employer and they said they could only disclose "date of employment" and "title."
DM’d your burner account. Need the help, please.
U4
(The Form U4 is the Uniform Application for Securities Industry Registration or Transfer. Representatives of broker-dealers, investment advisers, or issuers of securities must use this form to become registered in the appropriate jurisdictions and/or SROs. https://www.finra.org/registration-exams-ce/broker-dealers/registration…)
Unless you literally filled this out, and your company wouldn’t fill it out for you without telling you, you have nothing to worry about regarding that or a U5. It would be the same thing equivalent to somebody that never filled it out and was applying to a new job after recently losing one and had to maybe fill one out for a new job, they’d have nothing to worry about regarding their separation from last job and what might come up on a U4. As somebody who went through something like this ALMOST IDENTICAL, what you tell in interviews or your next employer is “looking to further build out my skill set and apply it to new roles in which I can make tremendous positive long term impact. My current role unfortunately is focused on watering down the position and team to which I signed on for and I have carefully decided to see what new opportunity I can best apply my skills and background towards…”
Something like that. I’ve been through the hiring process and job market and know it all, and work for a VERY well known IB. Happy to give any advice, feel free to shoot me a private message.
Hey WolfofGS, I also have some questions if you could please send me a message. Thanks!
You should assume bankers across banks talk to each other with or without your consent.
Did this bank fire other bankers across the board? Was your annual performance weak?
I’d focus on three things:
(1) Try to get the bank let you use your corporate email for 1-2 months until you get a job. Don’t say it’s with another bank (they may not like it). Sometimes they do stuff like that for senior people. You wouldn’t be working during that time.
(2) Get your performance letter. Hopefully that says you are a middle bucket, which is less damaging than saying you have performance issues. Use it as support in case someone asks.
(3) If others in the bank got fired, you can just say “there was a firing round, they overhired last year and with lower expected activity this year the bank started to reduce headcount across groups and levels. They are just getting started.”
Again, you can use (3) to the extent others were fired too.
were you laid off for non-performance reasons, or were you fired for cause? Very big difference. Will show up in your FINRA records, as someone who was laid off in a restructuring in my first gig, I get asked about it every time I go through a new-hire background check.
Hi I have some questions on this if you could please send me a dm. Thank you.
The fact that the OP isn't responding probably meant that it was a issue pertaining to just him and not a group wide layoff. If this is a group wide layoff, I'll happily connect you to my team which is a decent MM bank in TMT. We're hiring. lol.
Yup it was a performance issue, had lot of things in my personal life that affected my work. Just haven't been replying because I've been enjoying my time off lol. If you're still interested, I'd love to get more detauls through DM.
Will probably get MS for this but how the hell do you get fired as an analyst (exception for group restructuring/downsizing) and I doubt its a 'cultural' thing.
I've seen some shitty analysts and even they don't get fired just given the lack of junior resources + generally shitty analysts are out the door within 2 years (i.e. no associate promote) so even less of a reason for bank to fire.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but this will only show up for FINRA. Most employers only confirm dates and title. Most don’t give out reasons for departure
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