Haha, yes. Wanting to work in Big4 involves not questioning their exploitative practices and instead buying the koolaid that they're organizations without peer.
Ok so I got the offer and there is absolutely no difference between undergrad and masters salary. I'm a little bit dissapointed because this means they don't value those extra years I spent to learn more. Do any of you think this is acceptable? Should I take the offer or negotiate?
Ok so I got the offer and there is absolutely no difference between undergrad and masters salary. I'm a little bit dissapointed because this means they don't value those extra years I spent to learn more. Do any of you think this is acceptable? Should I take the offer or negotiate?
A masters in and of itself isn't going to help you get more money unless the job requires the bump in skill. If you are coming in as an entry level accountant your job won't require more than an UG. If your job requires higher skills then you might get more money because of less on the job training.
If you could have gotten this job without a masters then you should have taken the offer. Also, if you did a MAcc then the degree was more about CPA than actually learning more.
Ok so I got the offer and there is absolutely no difference between undergrad and masters salary. I'm a little bit dissapointed because this means they don't value those extra years I spent to learn more. Do any of you think this is acceptable? Should I take the offer or negotiate?
Take the offer. You're not seeing a pay bump because you lack work experience; its the same problem people who go straight for MBA after undergrad have. They don't value two more years of class the way they value 2 years of actual experience. Odds are you would have gotten the same job without a masters. They don't consider you an experienced hire because you don't have experience.
On the positive side, the knowledge and maturity you gained from your masters (and having it on your resume) should help you stand out from your peers and get promoted faster/nail the performance bonus. Could be worse
What schools did you go to? My friend got a mph from a top-20 school and was offered $100k from Deloitte a few years ago. I heard they only pay more for masters if you go to a top school (and you generally come in a level above undergrads).
Just to clarify @"OpsDude", I did my masters in an top 10 school. I am not expecting a bump in my salary because of this but there are firms like Navigant that hire masters students for experienced positions, so why not expect the same from Big 4....
In the Netherlands starting salary is about 2600 euro/mo, but you'll get a decent company car, 5000 annual education cost reimbursement and some more benefits
Is that for the same position? It sounds like that's close to 50k USD/yr + benefits. Is the COL significantly lower in the Netherlands? Also is that salary pre or post tax?
Unless the degree is relevant and warrants you coming in above entry level, Big 4 won't pay for it. Why should they pay you more if they can't charge you out for more?
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MBA will be higher. MAcc will not. Not sure about MSF.
msf and macc are the same. grads are viewed as undergrad/entry level
Doesn't make any sense. I know Big 4 has a very structured salary system but isn't it possible to negotiate a higher salary after masters?
Wanting to work in big 4 doesn't make sense
Haha, yes. Wanting to work in Big4 involves not questioning their exploitative practices and instead buying the koolaid that they're organizations without peer.
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Oh yeah? I thought Big 4 was better than MBB... Thanks for enlightening us!
Does anybody else have an insight on Big 4 salary negotiation?
Was this sarcasm?
My buddy got his macc, works for EY in NYC. Makes like 65-70. I think KPMG pays slightly more.
IMO, do it if you have to, but use it to get into something else. Everyone I know hated accounting.
Ok so I got the offer and there is absolutely no difference between undergrad and masters salary. I'm a little bit dissapointed because this means they don't value those extra years I spent to learn more. Do any of you think this is acceptable? Should I take the offer or negotiate?
A masters in and of itself isn't going to help you get more money unless the job requires the bump in skill. If you are coming in as an entry level accountant your job won't require more than an UG. If your job requires higher skills then you might get more money because of less on the job training.
If you could have gotten this job without a masters then you should have taken the offer. Also, if you did a MAcc then the degree was more about CPA than actually learning more.
On the positive side, the knowledge and maturity you gained from your masters (and having it on your resume) should help you stand out from your peers and get promoted faster/nail the performance bonus. Could be worse
What schools did you go to? My friend got a mph from a top-20 school and was offered $100k from Deloitte a few years ago. I heard they only pay more for masters if you go to a top school (and you generally come in a level above undergrads).
Just to clarify @"OpsDude", I did my masters in an top 10 school. I am not expecting a bump in my salary because of this but there are firms like Navigant that hire masters students for experienced positions, so why not expect the same from Big 4....
In the Netherlands starting salary is about 2600 euro/mo, but you'll get a decent company car, 5000 annual education cost reimbursement and some more benefits
Is that for the same position? It sounds like that's close to 50k USD/yr + benefits. Is the COL significantly lower in the Netherlands? Also is that salary pre or post tax?
Unless the degree is relevant and warrants you coming in above entry level, Big 4 won't pay for it. Why should they pay you more if they can't charge you out for more?
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