Optionality: from ER to ~$1B HF vs. MM?

My sense is, it's substantially easier to go from ER to a ~$1B HF (vs. from a pod to small HF), and if I don't like that for whatever reason, I'd probably still have the MM option if needed 

Feels harder to go from a MM pod to a smaller HF, right?

And in ER I can have patience to pick my spot better. In theory I go to the smaller HF and don't leave. While if I fall out of a MM will probably be rushed to land a new seat. 

Is this the right way to approach this decision tree? Don't want to slip into head hunter discussions for a MM position 

 
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Lol fair. Simplified:

I'm in research, and am wondering about recruiting for a pod shop or a smaller single manager. I'm leaning towards not recruiting for pods because I think they'd limit my future options. Is the below mostly the right way to approach this decision?

Pros of pod:

  • Big names
  • Bigger bonus potential probably
  • If I'm good, can quickly move up to risk taking positions 

Cons of pod (as I see them)

  • Reduced optionality (hard to leave pod land for SM once you're in pod land). Is this correct?
  • Can get dumped quickly. This makes recruiting for next position much harder

Pros of single manager:

  • Ideally I'd be patient and will find a fund I really like, so won't leave
  • More stable job
  • Optionality for next role (can always move to to a pod or another single manager, or maybe long only)

Cons of single manager

  • Less well known than the pods
  • Harder/less likely to get in a risk taking seat
 

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