That would make sense but I have no clue how it actually works. My sense from what I know about them is that they are not making multi-year investment bets as a general rule. The pressure is probably to produce returns within a 12 month period or even shorter if possible would be my guess

 

These funds have tight stop-loss limits on PMs, where they get fired if they lose a pretty small % of capital. Much easier to talk about doubling down and being a hero from an armchair than when you're actually managing $ and can feel the axe above your head.

 

Depends on the specific PM. Some guys operate with position-level stop-loss. Others stick to "fundamentals haven't changed, so I'm staying on or even adding to my position".

Also appropriate to refer to Mike Tyson's words of wisdom: "Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth".

 
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There are a few reasons:

1. If you're leveraged, when you lose money your leverage ratios (or VAR or choose your risk metrics) get worse. Let's say you're 4-to-1 leveraged, and you lose 10% of your gross book. Now you're at 8-to-1 leverage. If you want to keep your leverage constant, you have to reduce risk to adjust for the fact that your equity has been reduced. 

2. If PMs at a platform lose money, the optionality of their payoffs increases, incenting them to take more risk. For a (very) simplified example, let's assume that if you, the PM, lose money over a Jan-Dec calendar year at a multi-manager, you get fired, but if you make money, you keep a % of the PnL. If you're highly profitable year-to-date, you're going to be cautious about losing money as it comes out of your bonus; your risk/return incentives are going to be balanced, and mostly aligned with those of the platform. But let's assume instead that you're losing a lot of money year-to-date. It doesn't matter how much you lose by year-end; the outcome is the same, you get fired. Thus, you have a massive incentive to take on a ton of risk (for instance, betting heavily on a theme) to attempt to get back to positive returns. You're no longer aligned with the platform, as the risk of further downside is meaningless to you. Thus, the platform needs to keep an extra close eye on you and reduces your risk allocation to offset your incentive to take on more risk. 

 

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