Am I doomed if I get placed in a "bad" group?
If I'm in a weak or bad group at my bank, are my future prospects bleak? I know if you're working at GS/MS or something, your group won't matter too much, but what about at the other end? Are my options severely limited if I'm in a poorer group at a bank like UBS/DB? Do people analysts in these groups still exit to PE? I'm sure some do, but just how much harder is it?
Take a deep breath and relax you’re at a BB the top 1% of jobs of all IB jobs even if its UBS/BB.
Yes it will be harder but just because you aren’t gs/ms doesnt mean you won’t get interviews. Have a friend at UBS/DB that was able to land a UMM role because hes just an intelligent/amicable guy. At the end of the day its the individual not the firm
That’s reassuring. Thank you.
You will be absolutely fine man. Some people on this forum will have you believe that if you're not at MS M&A or GS TMT that you might as well be working at McDonalds when it comes to PE interviews. It has gotten out of hand, and you should rest assured that if you go to a BB and are competent/willing to put in the effort, you can certainly land a great gig in PE. Will it be a top spot at Carlyle- maybe, but it would be much harder to pull that off.
I think when people talk about groups on this forum it is mostly with respect to what is the "average" outcome- same thing applies to target schools. Going to Penn state does not disqualify you from landing an IB gig- it simply means you will have to work harder to attain it. Same goes for good vs mediocre vs "bad" groups for landing PE. It is up to the individual.
The "target path" of Elite HS->Target School->MS M&A-> KKR is simply just the least risky way to attain this end goal, and while its the most consistent and proven path, its certainly not the only way to get there.
Yeah this forum kinda starts driving you crazy if you're on it too long lol
Same dude. I’m a non-target at a euro BB (Barc/CS) and I still feel so underachieved bc of this dumb ass site
DOOMED
You're straight man. I once read on WSO (from a VP/MD in PE giving advice) that a major reason top tier BB ppl get more PE offers is that on average they're way more prepared & smarter than lower tier BB. He basically said that if you're an elite, prepared analyst at a lower tier, you have a good shot at MF/UMM. Keep your head up
As long as you are a good guy and you work hard you will be fine.
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