How is the spread decided in ibanks - eg glencore-xstrata/ facebook ipo and what are associated expenses?
Hello, I want to know; how does the spread get decided, just curious about it; for example the spread in glencore/xstrata deal ($36 billion merger) for is 140 million pounds; basically, what are the expenses associated with the banks; -one of the shareholders of Xstrata (qatar investment authority) hired Lazard inc and hired them for a flat fees of $2 million, because they were not satisfied with what price glencore was offering; Is $2million what bankers get paid to decide on just valuation and negotiation? I am a sophomore and really curious and just wanna know? what would be the expenses here for the bank? -facebook bankers (25 banks) got $100 million; how was that decided; what are the costs associated for the banks?
$2 mil is a joke. $2 mil is nothing. $2 mil is 2 points on $100 mil. $2 mil is what you get paid to be on the right of some shitty capital markets deal in a flow asset class.
Generally it's a percentage of the size of the transaction, and the percentages change based on the product. For IPOs like the facebook deal, I think the magic number is 6%? Idk I don't work in that space. The percentages change based on the product, how complicated the transaction is, how large the transaction is (a guy selling $150 mm of bonds is going to have to pay more than a guy selling $1,000 mm), and how much risk the bank takes in underwriting the transaction. It gets decided by a combination of negotiation and market convention in your specific space.
For advisory shit, it's hard to say. "Advisory" can mean a lot of different things. If Lazard is working on a deal of that size for $2 mm, they're doing it for the publicity / league table credit.
For IPOs the gross spread is usually 7% plus some extra money to be made with the "shoe."
For advisory fees it is usually around 1-3% of deal value based on the size of the deal. Larger deals will have smaller fees as a % of deal value but still can be very large ($40+ million).
Is it still 7% these days? Thought it was getting lower especially for large cap IPOs.
Usually depends on the size but in tech space for deals ~$100-400 mm 7% is pretty standard.
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