Morgan Stanley IBD vs UBS IBD
Hi guys, I just received an offer from UBS HK for their IBD SA. However I think I did better in the MS HK final round than UBS assessment centre, so there is much possiblity that I could receive the offer from MS next Monday as well.
As far as I know, UBS tends to give more return offer to SA, of course I hope I could get one. Also UBS has better culture. For example UBS people are more friendly than MS. Also they did better than MS in 2009. However MS has better reputation, it is easier for me to jump ship from MS to others banks in the future. Also MS is stronger globally than UBS.
It is quite hard for me to decide which offer I should take, what do you guys think?
follow your heart
maybe u should get all the offers before u start dreaming
never go to ubs, its a sinking ship
why would you say that? UBS is quite strong in Asia these days huh?
Oh Asia, nevermind then, but its still wracked by scandal and losses. I was speaking more for US.
If you haven't noticed his name already it's "fubs". He is just bitter he didn't get an offer.
Yes UBS is one of the top BBs in Asia. UBS culture is great! So like the first post...follow your heart...go to the one which ever you feel most comfortable.
thx for telling me this...I just discovered his article... what about the conversion ratio? is it more possiblity to get return offer at UBS?
no i worked there for almost a year before leaving due tot he shitty group, and kbblue u should watch out, I know who you are in stamford and your listed under operations. PM me for details why.
MORGAN IBD ASSHOLE...clearly
do you mean their culture? cuz MS is still the top 3 IBD at Hong Kong...
Congrats, just wondering when and where you did your UBS AC and when did you get the offer?
I did mine last week and am interested know. Thanks!
Sure, I had my AC at London last Wednesday, I got the offer 2 days later, because I told them that my Citi offer is going to expired. So I think it makes them to consider my application first.
MS
reasons?
Flip a coin. Both of these banks are good.
-Never go to a bank on a premise that they've converted more in the past. -Don't go on prestige. Prestige went out of the window in summer 2007. -Don't go for current rankings either. MS was 5th globally, and 7th in Asia last year. Now, they are #1 (2). Will they be 1 (2) in the future? Who knows. Any of the top 10 banks will give you the same exposure/experience, responsibilities and pay. -Unless you know the team you'll be joining and met most of the people (analysts) there, then going for culture is a bad idea because the way people treat you depends on how busy they are and how much you fuck up.
If I were you, I would def go for MS
better reputation, stronger globally - great experience. easier to jump ship to others banks later in the future
interned in MS HK last summer - great people nice culture.
when's your UBS exploding? good luck with your MS offer!
I don't know about the culture in Asia but I have really liked all the UBS people I have met in interviews.
MS is out already. When does your UBS offer explode?
One thing to keep in mind is that SA at MS would be generalist while at UBS you'll be assigned a specific group so that can change your summer exp. quite a lot. Somebody at MS told me a couple of SA had to wait for quite a while to get staffed on deals the past summer, but on the up side you get to see more groups.
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