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hi guys Im here to get some advices from incumbents. Im preparing a community college for transfer. I guess this is the only way to enter target school. Even If i succeed transferring UCB Haas or other target schools, can’t i get a job? I have no citizenships, transferred from community college. I think there’s no reason to hire me. Tell me about the truth. . . p.s.1 Ive worked at the National Tax Service(korean IRS) and district court(Korea) for two years. Can this be an advantage? p.s.2 Is a business major mandatory? Is it hard to get a job in econ, statistics, and accounting?
Fellow Korean here. I went to an Ivy, and currently working at a hedge fund in New York.
It’s going to be an absolute nightmare uphill battle.
I could tell from the way you write, you’re not fluent in English. You might have to spend like a year in language courses. And lack of fluency/ability to read room in English and unfamiliarity of culture will be challenging not only for recruiting but throughout your career.
If you transfer from community college, you will mostly likely be coming in as a junior. Most recruiting for junior summer opportunities end in sophomore spring, meaning you’ll probably have to stay an extra year at school.
Even if you do so, you’ll have to start networking in your sophomore fall, without a GPA, and if you for somehow f-up your fall grade, there’s a zero chance for recruiting in spring semester (it’d be either 4.0 or sth bad given your entire gpa will just be based on one semester).
Plus, there’s just less opportunity in CA for IB/finance, makes most UC schools not-so-desirable. And recruiting for NY opps from CA could be challenging.
Visa sponsorship situation is getting worse and Trump taking the office would only worsen the problem.
And to your p.s. questions, I found most Americans tend to de-value most experiences from overseas unless it’s a BB equivalent, so your tax experience wouldn’t help much. Also, business major is not mandatory. You’ll want to study something STEM for 3yr OPT.
All-in-all, risk reward is stacked against you from what I could tell. There are many factors to consider. Do your parents have enough saving to support +$500k for next 5 years, military, your age, backup plans in Korea, etc. If those are on your side, I think it’s worth trying but I personally wouldn’t even bother.
As another Korean, +1
Hey there! It's great to see you're aiming high and considering a path through community college to a target school like UCB Haas. Let's break down your concerns and questions:
Transferring from Community College to a Target School: Based on the most helpful WSO content, transferring from a community college to a target school like UCB Haas is indeed a viable path to breaking into industries like investment banking (IB). Many have successfully navigated this route. It requires hard work, networking, and a clear understanding of the recruiting process, but it's definitely possible.
Job Prospects Without Citizenship: While not having citizenship can present additional challenges, especially in certain geographies or industries that have specific work authorization requirements, it's not an insurmountable barrier. Your unique background, including international experience, can be a valuable asset to employers. It's crucial to research visa requirements and potential sponsorship opportunities early in your job search process.
Experience at the National Tax Service and District Court: Your experience with the Korean IRS and district court can indeed be an advantage, particularly in roles that value analytical skills, attention to detail, and a strong understanding of regulatory environments. Highlighting this experience in your applications and interviews, and connecting it to how it's prepared you for the roles you're applying for, can set you apart from other candidates.
Major Selection: A business major is not mandatory to break into fields like investment banking, consulting, or corporate roles. Majors in economics, statistics, and accounting are also highly valued, as they provide a strong foundation in analytical skills, financial principles, and quantitative analysis. The key is to complement your major with relevant internships, extracurricular activities, and networking to enhance your job prospects.
Difficulty in Getting a Job with Econ, Statistics, and Accounting Majors: Jobs in economics, statistics, and accounting are in demand, but like any competitive field, landing a position can be challenging. It's about leveraging your unique skills, networking effectively, and targeting your applications to roles that match your background and interests. Internships and practical experience can significantly boost your chances.
Remember, your path may be unique, but that doesn't mean it's not feasible. Stay determined, seek out mentors and advice, and use your unique experiences as strengths in your journey.
Sources: Q&A: Community College --> Semi-Target --> Big 4 Audit --> Boutique IB M&A (Ask Me Anything), Should Successful students at "non-targets" transfer to targets?, Community College to IB?, https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/investment-banking/didnt-make-it-to-a-target-now-what?customgpt=1, Community College To PE
Thank you for your advice. I wont give up. By the way can I ask you one more question? I heard that most cc transfer students can't find an internship, so wouldn't it be helpful to have an internship at a Top Korean IB during this period? Which is more likely to get a job at a Top U.S. IB(after grad.) interning at a Top Korean IB or interning in some small place in the U.S.?
bro be talking to a bot… the other korean gave u the real advice here already.
buddy, im korean too. looking at your resume (your experiences), they are worthless in the US. like the top comment said, your odds are very low in even getting a decent IB job. I know it sounds harsh but the truth is that you are too late (or if you dont have money to support, you are not financially stable enough to even afford the opportunity).
I'm currently working for a US REPE (Am Korean)
Based on your profile and considering that your English skills seem insufficient, I believe it's unlikely you'll be able to transfer to IB/PE even if you graduate from a target school through a community college route.
You need to understand that this industry recruits top talent, even from target schools. (They are very selective) Many Koreans who transfer to the US through community colleges often lack the necessary language skills and do not fully understand the recruitment processes for IB/PE. Most of them end up returning to Korea. However, due to the brand name of their schools, they often secure positions at major investment banks in South Korea, such as NH, Mirae etc
Given the opportunity cost and the slim chances of getting employed in the US, why not graduate from a Korean university and seek employment there instead? This approach will save you both time and money. If your current school in South Korea is not a target school, consider transferring to one of the top three Korean universities instead of going through community college and graduating from a place like UCB. Think about the return on investment and your realistic situation.
I'm advising you as if you were my younger brother. You need to objectively and realistically consider your future plans.
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