Advice for an Incoming Freshman at UChicago?
I am going to start at UChicago this fall as an undergrad. It is a great school, with good recruiting, but the recruiting is not as good as HYPSMW.
Therefore, I am going to try to transfer to HYSMWC and Oxford and LSE. I think I can get into one of those schools over the next two years.
Thoughts?
Don't do that to yourself man. UChicago > Oxford & LSE combined. If you are interested in a career in the UK Oxford and LSE are fine but UChicago might as well have the same leverage in the UK. From what I know HYP don't accept transfers and for the rest of the acronyms I have no idea what they mean.
UChicago is a great school, and don't worry about recruiting you'll get where you want with a little networking.
Agree not to worry about recruiting, UChicago will do just fine, but i know for a fact at least some of HYP accepts transfers, FYI.
Harvard and Yale accepts transfers. Princeton doesn't. But even then the transfer acceptance rate for Harvard and Yale is extremely low.
UChicago places really well. Calm down.
Yeah, agreed with above. UChicago is a tremendous place to go to undergrad. I went to bschool there and was always in awe of the undergrads. Gonna be some pretty impressive start-ups coming out of there imo. There's huge optionality there and I'd suggest that you (probably) don't actually know what you want to be doing yet, so there's no reason to try to change programs because you 'think' you want to do banking or whatever. If you want to meet the banks just go walk across to Booth on any Tues.-Thurs. evening in the Fall, and there will be tons of recruiters there.
I threw monkey shit at you. But I'm willing to give you advice. I am a rising second year at Uchicago. And it is a target school, with one of the best econ programs in the world. And anyone who is smart enough to be hiring someone knows that. If you did not get into those schools in the first place, you probably won't as a transfer. Unless you get straight A's in hard classes at Chicago. Which there is a good chance you won't if you did not get into those schools in the first place. Chicago sends a shitload of kids to finance in all sectors, if they do well. Because it is hard to do well if you take real classes. If you are a competitive recruit at firms at Chicago, you will do just as well as if you were at HYP. And if you need the HYP name to get you a job, you probably won't get into HYP. Do well at Chicago, and you'll do well on wallstreet. Coming from a classical studies major currently working in an investment research position reserved for people three years older than me.
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As a Yale/Booth alum, I agree with most of the posts above. The only thing that Oxford has to offer compared to UChicago is historical/layman prestige which even then Chicago's lay reputation is going through a meteoric rise in the recent years.
In terms of academic prestige there's really no difference. Grad programs: Booth >> Said Econ programs: UChicago >>> Oxford (honestly even Cambridge is a notch below Chicago's econ department)
Even at the undergraduate level the only real advantage Oxford will have is if you are planning to work in London. If you're going to work in the US/International Chicago would have the same if not better opportunities than Oxford.
Another way to look at this is through the Silicon Valley/Stanford rise. Until the 1960's Stanford was nowhere near the institution it is now. Though there's a lot of factors that contributed to it becoming a top school, much of it has to do with the prominence of the region around it i.e. Silicon Valley. Given the extent in which a city could influence the quality of a school, imagine what a difference the prominence of the country can make.
Of course, Oxford is a top institution. Always been and always will be, but honestly a lot of its current prestige is overestimated and stems from its distant history. UChicago's professional programs are on the rise and will continue to do so given undergrads I've seen there. If you look at things long term, you would be stupid to transfer to Oxford even as an undergrad let alone LSE. Don't get swayed by high school kids posting on the internet whoring after lay prestige who honestly don't know jack shit. I usually ignore posts like this by students oblivious to reality but I'm telling you this as a Booth alum: At the end of the day it's not the school but your character that determines your chances.
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