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I'm not a wine snob so I'll probably get bashed for being a plebe, but when I see a bottle costs more than $20, my blood pressure goes up a bit
cabs: big fan of paso robles wineries. mina mesa, carson ridge, chronic cellars are my go tos, oak ridge and coastline to a lesser extent but still VERY good. also try bulgariana, yes it's bulgarian but it's GOOD.
other reds: chronic cellars sofa king bueno is all you need if you're going heavy, the other wineries mentioned above are good for blends as well.
d'autrefois rose. they make a good pinot but I don't like red wine I can see through, so I only drink their rose
on european wines, your mileage will vary. I shop at total wine mostly, but if I'm looking for a nice french/italian wine I can't pronounce, and am trying to pair with something, ask for help, and consider going to a more local spot where they know their shit. I will also say that wines you've tried in europe and enjoyed will either be impossible to find in the US or will taste completely different, so keep your hopes down.
Top wine vineyard that does great reds and whites of varying price levels is https://www.donnafugata.it/en/</a">Donnafugata from Sicily. Not sure how prices are in the US (probably higher due to import) but in Italy you can get their very good typical table white for 5-7EUR or splash out on their Mille e Una Notte red wines which can reach 100EUR+
never done sicily, done roma firenze and amalfi, but had the same experiences there (except amalfi, super overpriced). my point was I can't find hardly any of the 5-7EUR bottles I enjoyed while over there in the US. the rare occasions I could find one the price would be 3x and it wouldn't taste as good
2016 (2014 even better) oak ridge zin is a great daily driver, have 4 cases downstairs. So drinkable but not too light
I actually visited the Bulgarian wine country this summer. It's right at the Greek border, hot & dry southern European climate with good growing soil. Its wine country is still in its youth after being suppressed by the Communist regime. Toured a very modern new vineyard that had quite good wine of different red grape varieties.
Brunellos are my favorite reds and Sancerres (and other Sauvignon Blancs) are my favorite whites.
I can't memorize all of the brands or years, but Altesino Brunello di Montalcino, Caparzo Brunello di Montalcino, Domaine Vacheron Sancerre, Henri Bourgeois Sancerre, and Whitehaven Sauvingon Blanc are some general go-tos.
If you like Brunello di Montalcino you'll love Nobile di Montepuliano
I'm a little older than most on here, so more versed. Definitely a hobby of mine (own about 300 bottles)
Biggest thing you will learn to appreciate as you get more into it. Producer>Region>Grape
If you are in NYC Flatiron wines newsletter is a must. Also look at Chambers St and Astor. Amazing shops. Flatiron is the GOAT and id happily buy every bottle they sell
Yeah this is a tough question, because wine is such a diverse field and it's tough to get a handle on just how widespread the field is.
I'm into wine, but something fun someone suggested, especially for when working from home for coronavirus, is to pick a country and work through the various wines they produce for (2 weeks, a month, etc). This is absolutely not the right way to find a wine you love in the most efficient possible manner, but it did sound cool and new.
If you want to find wines that suit you personally, there are plenty of cool tests coming out that help you narrow down your palate. Or just look for some basic, good (think $20-40 range) wines in most of the major grape varieties, and get to work. Be an alcoholic; open 2 and drink half of each and compare and contrast, and the do it again the next night, and work through a couple cases. Half of them you'll realize from the first minute you don't like, but it's worth it to work through it on your palate
Repeating thebrofessor´s argument above, any wine that´s not between 6 and 20 bucks (no matter if USD or EUR) is not worth the money. Pretty partial to Burgundian and Cabernets, and from the Penedés, if I´m visiting. Funnily enough, the oh-so-great-our-national-treasure Main white wines are not really my thing, save for the occasional wine fizz in Summer.
Gonna give that a hard disagree.
Fine, fine, between 5 and 50 bucks, okay? I´ll admit freely, I don´t taste a difference between a 20 and 50 bucks wine - yet.
Mostly into reds personally, but I can enjoy most wines. I’m also a cheap wine fan, I’ll buy mixed boxes of wine online (WSJWine, Groupon wine deals, etc) for $5-6 a bottle and find most of them to be great. I try not to get caught up in it too much, if it tastes good to my unrefined palette, that’s good enough.
Given those likes, I'd suggest that you look into vinho verde. It's basically only produced in Portugal, but light, slightly effervescent, easy drinking, and cheap. Casal Garcia is my go-to, but some other brands like Gazella are good too. Generally you are looking at around $6 a bottle.
I don't normally find French or US reds a good value proposition. For absolute value go Chilean. I've got a soft spot for austere northern Italian reds like valpolicella or chianti. If on a date night at a BYO though, I'm likely to go exotic with something like a Gruner Veltleiner or Blaufrankish.
SB for mentioning Portuguese wine, which is vastly underrated.
SHUSH! We're trying to keep it under-rated and cheap!
I'm not as much of a fan of the reds, to be honest. Spanish tempranillo is my go to cheap red.
fingers and toes crossed my trip this fall doesn't get cancelled, I'm planning on turning green from all of the vinho verde
Sauternes. Specifically Chateau d’Yquem. For reds a nice Carmenere from Chile
Trapiche Vineyards Malbec is one of my favorites for a causal evening at home. My personal favorite pairing, and meal in general is a starter of French Bread Toasted with Brie, followed by Lamb Shoulder Steaks marinated in Worcestershire Grilled with a side of Asparagus. Alamos's Malbec is another one I like with that meal, and in general. They both are pretty easy on the wallet @ less than $15.
Great combo there. prefer Alamos to Trapiche.
a little than most here too and have progressively gotten into wine - drinking a nice bottle over the course of the nice gives you a really nice, manageable buzz, and doesn’t get you hungover like 6 ipas would. it’s also just a fun hobby to constantly learn about, and I’ve found that knowing even a modicum about wine is impressive to people- whether that be dates or more senior people you’re trying to impress. old rich white dudes generally like wine, fishing, and golf, so it’s a plus to be able to engage intelligently with them on things they enjoy to do / talk about.
anyway lots of good info above, but I’d recommend getting into a couple bottles of Ridge. a little on the more pricey side ($30-40), but I really think it’s hard to find a better quality wine for that price. Zinfandel is nice because it’s a little bit lighter (and cheaper) than a cab, but is still really flavorful and pairs well with a ton of different foods. also if you’re just getting into collecting it’s nice cause it benefits from some bottle aging (3-7 years), but it isn’t crazy like collecting cabs that should age for 15+.
MD 20/20 boi
Oh Mad Dog. brings me back to college
Party wine/gift/more expensive option: Flowers. Sort of old news at this point but reliable wine, to be sure
Liberty Creek Sweet Red for the thots.
Chateauneuf-du-Pape
Reds. Cabernet sauvignon, merlot, pinot noir, blends.
I'm not a wine snob, but the sweet spot for hitting the right quality vs. cost ratio is the $15-20 a bottle range. I don't see any value in paying above $20 for a bottle.
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