If you could go to 1 company for the sole purpose of learning, where would it be?
Let's say if you go to any company in the world for the sole purpose of "learning", where would it be? McKinsey? Goldman Sachs?
Definately one of the prop desk of RBC or GS in the early 2000s. They killed it... definately not the hedge funds similar to Two Sigma, as I prefer discretionary trading with a little bit of algo but not full automation. For the purpose of learning, probably firms like DV trading, TransMarket, FNY Securities and learning from the senior guys. I mean their style of trading is probably all different but if you want to survive in this industry, you HAVE keep an open mind even if you do make money consistently. There are small hedge funds ran by hot shots like Melissa Ko, I would die to learn from. Many of these small funds that you never heard of, kill it.
And that's where I would love to go.
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What are some innovations that Google Ventures has created? I assume they spin this tech off as independent companies?
Fyre Media
I'd probs say McKinsey (Note: I'm not from a Consulting background, nor was Consulting my main career goal during university). Reasons are as follows: - I'm sure we've all heard of the unparalleled collegiate and development focus. 2 years up or out, but in those 2 years you're placed well ahead of your peers at other firms/industries. - The exit ops are ridiculous: sure, PE hire's the most out of IB, but I don't think IB has such vast exit ops as top consulting practices in terms of the number of exit routes(PE, Corp Dev, C-Suite track, Biz Dev, Equity Research, etc....) - Take a look at C-Suite placement. I haven't looked at stats but I reckon no other firm places as well.
seriously dude you could work ANYWHERE and you chose mickkinsey?
I'm being totally legit here - it just sounds like an excellent firm (maybe I'm being naive).
You think otherwise?
Palantir, a top VC (e.g. AH, Sequoia, KPCB), ...
Cutting-edge innovation, intellectually stimulating, significant potential to make a difference as an individual
CIA if I got to do something fun like come up with cost-effective strategies for toppling hostile governments/filthy communists. Like...cmon, would you rather would as a lame consultant or a fucking god responsible for annihilating central banks in cheeky ways while doing God's (America's) work.
You may enjoy reading Confessions of an Economic Hit Man by John Perkins.
Great book
Great book! I always wondered, how is he still alive if it's all true?
Hands down Tobin & Company, they have stellar exit opps that make the Analyst program more than worthwhile
Lol
Top VCs because they feel the pulse of every single new promising venture in any space. Google Venture and Softbank maybe?
Putin & Co.
The Baupost Group
Patagonia
X the moonshot factory. Formerly google X.
CERN
Sequoia, Andressen Horowitz, Kliener Perkens.
Wanye Enterprises. You have Morgan Freeman as a boss.
Tishman Speyer or Hines working on $1B+ mixed-use development
McKinsey or Bain to get exposure to a wide variety of business strategies and thought processes
Baupost, Quantum, or Bridgewater to learn how they they evaluate investment opportunities
Why the fuck would you want to go to McKinsey?
Well that's nichier, assuming you have the programming skill set at an elite level already and are now ready to take it to god-tier
The Clinton Foundation pre 2016
I can't believe no one has said Enron....they were the smartest guys in the room.
You probably didn't want to be the top few, but I bet you'd learn a LOT about Corporate Finance being a VP there
btw...my real answer might be to go work for Theo Epstein
Everyone wants to learn different things, so this question is too broad. E.g. I have a friend who wants to become a software engineer, and for him, it's go Google or go home.
For me, eh, I'd take anything available. If you held a pistol and asked me to choose then I'd say PwC audit for internships (build up accounting knowledge), GS IBD pre-MBA and McK post MBA.
just so you know, PwC will teach you next to nothing about pure accounting. You pick things up more through osmosis as an auditor than truly learning accounting.
I dont know their intern training, but if they offer a training week that probably is pretty good.
thanks bro
SAC capital
Working for any respected Consulting or PE/VC firm in a developing country. I would really appreciate seeing the economics of it all. Being a part of a team responsible for building up and creating the foundation technology of a country/city would be awesome.
I would want to sit with Paul Tudor Jones (perhaps when he was a bit younger) and talk with him about markets all day long.
Pick any one of the Forbes 400 wealthiest people and be made their bitch boy.. guarantee I'd learn more from doing that than working a meme job like consultant at mickkinsey
Enron
Brazzers
Agreed. The best company for the sole purpose of learning, their employees are extremely diverse people
BX RE
I would probably say Hudson River Trading or Tower Research.
The literal top minds.
In PE/VC I'd say Social Capital or CapitalG at Google
Renaissance Technologies
Front office of an NFL or NBA team
Strip Mall Massage Parlor in Florida. Mostly for the exposure to high net worth clientele.
Ha
Berkshire Hathaway working under Todd Combs / Ted Weschler and the Oracle himself
I watched the first two episodes of Mars on Netflix today. It'd a docu-drama about the first manned mission to Mars. Has a ton of footage of SpaceX mission control stuff, launches, Musk talking, etc. Man are those some passionate nerds. Talking about saving humanity from extinction. I'd be there in another life. But I took a series of wrong turns long ago and changing course would be very difficult now. Sort of like a rocket ship...
Phillip Brothers
JUUL Labs, I want to learn how to sell candy flavored drugs to kids and get away with it
Jardine Matheson
Swire a close second
https://leadership.swire.com/en/our-programmes/management-trainee-progr…
It defies the question a bit, but I would say - work at companies on two opposite ends of doing the same thing from two different angles; that's how you will develop a unique perspective of gauging the game. Something like - work at AQR and see what factors are working in the market and analyse securities only on the mathematical basis with some economic reasoning; and then, work at a fundamentals only fund like Eminence Cap or maybe even an activist fund like Pershing Square, which by the way just posted returns north of 20% after a long, long time (if I am not wrong).
The benefit - you get to look at the same world from two different sets of eyes. You will see where are the flaws with each one and then you can figure out your ways around them. This way, you also become more 'philosophy agnostic'. Nothing can provide a more learning experience than understanding the fact that even the most elegant philosophies are flawed in some way.
The other way to learn would be to work with someone who is trying to change the game, ground up. Maybe someone like the Circle Up team - it's a VC firm which invests only in consumer retail and uses AI to source investment ideas. Amidst the 750 odd VC firms which are still using 'relationships' as a major factor of sourcing investment prospects, this is a game changer.
I hardly doubt one company can give you enough learning. Each company is flawed in some way and you would want to learn beyond its flaws and inherent biases.
Barcelona FC
LOL brazzers.
Thought I'd see more Google answers, or Amazon. Glad nobody went on to say Apple.
Area 51
Under Dalio, Thiel, Marks
Bridgewater probably
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