Need to get this off my chest: I’m tired of the simp sh*t

Let me preface this by saying that there are many wonderful female employees out there in RE. I’ve worked with many who I would consider to be great at what we do. 

But I am so damn tired of watching mediocre female employees in their 20s get promoted simply for being either hot or just for being women in general.

Older white men at the top are the ones pushing this (head of my former group explicitly wanted more female hires, we were told). They did NOT face the same competition that the current cohort of young men did, and they likely weren’t a generation of men who were espousing corporate feminism or going out of their way to celebrate diversity in general. Yet now they are the chief simps. 

It may be due to diversity KPIs. It may be due to the fact that I’m pretty sure the old dogs want to bang the young female contingent, or at least enjoy the proximity to them. Yet I’m seeing it again and again, and it’s irritating.

I am confident in my skills and experience. I don’t need a hand out. But I do think my younger brothers in this industry are receiving appallingly unfair treatment in many instances because of this dynamic. 

The DEI craze definitely crested in 2020-2022. By early 2024, my firm’s DEI committee was running on fumes and in 2025 it was seemingly dead in the water. The signals surrounding BIPOCs and alternative sexual identities is pretty much gone, but the extreme emphasis on promoting women at all costs remains. 

I do not mean for this to be mean spirited but the egregious examples I’ve seen have left me with a bad taste in my mouth.

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Got both the NFL and College Football on TV and nerds are still complaining about DEI on WSO

Blame me because you weren’t good enough!
 

Hockey is just DEI for Canadians. 

“Sure, honey, you can be a pro athlete too. Whatever you want.” 

Blame me because you weren’t good enough!
 

But I am so damn tired of watching mediocre female employees in their 20s get promoted simply for being either hot or just for being women in general.

It’s depressing if you care to look. Had a colleague that we worked with make it to director. No one really knew what exactly she did. She would wear yoga pants in the office and leave at 4:00pm. Found out she was pulling in  $500k+, paid off house, paid MBA in cash, German car in cash, etc. 

The MD who was sponsoring her left and she rolled up under a new MD. She was a fresh director who didn’t know how to originate deals or bring in new clients so the new MD fired her.  

 

longandshort

In other news, paint dries. 

Sometimes it takes 6mo to 12mo for thick oil paint to dry.

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
 

I've seen this firsthand specifically in regards to simping rather than DEI.

Complete loser fat balding management who throws promotions and piles of money at attractive female employees so that they will laugh at all their jokes and borderline flirt with them. It's really pathetic.

What's really sad is that these guys have been really successful professionals at the top of their game. Yet, they are simping to young female employees. Man up dude.

 
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I’ve never seen any women, as few as there are, cruise by in finance. They all pretty much grind as hard or harder than the dudes. Same hours, same prep, maybe more EQ than a lot of guys. If it’s not one thing its another with guys who think like you. Who do you complain about when its all just a bunch of white guys? School? Height? Who has the most hair on their head? You gotta look in the mirror buddy and nut up. Life isn’t always fair, but you can’t just blame externally, sometimes it’s just you pal

 

Ut non perferendis nobis quisquam possimus aut officia qui. Enim odit fugiat ipsa sed quam vitae.

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