On the one hand I get it that nowadays American women are obsessed with marrying rich and “being spoiled”, but at the same time I don’t see how marrying someone who wants citizenship/ first world ticket is any better. The dynamics of those relationships are kinda messed up imo.

This being said, the dating scene I see is just frustrating. At least NYC is full of ladies with quite pointless “careers” who feel entitled to live like the 1%. As if I was slaving away my 20s in some cubicle out of passion or something. 


"The concept behind passport bros existed way before this particular term gained traction and made the rounds on TikTok. It’s essentially a mail-order bride with more steps: men travel to foreign countries with the intention of sleeping with or marrying women, often driven by the perception that women in their home country have impossibly high standards or different life goals."

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
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Thoughts on the passport bros movement? 

Been dating a girl from a 3rd world country. Couldn't be happier.

How did all of this unfold? Did you see pictures before you met her? Or have you met her?

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee

This trend just got some traction in thanks to TikTok and social media.  This concept isn't entirely new either - just look at the military.  A lot of foreign brides coming to the United States.  I am on that boat, too.  Dated and talked to a number of foreign women so far, not disappointed either.  The issue comes down to compatibility, attorney fees, and hoping that things work out.  Yeah, you can argue that they are here for a green card, but that is not entirely everyone that you meet.  Many people are just looking to have a better quality of life outside of their country.  The person you are marrying (or bringing over) isn't so different in being a relationship with someone here, at least.  Things happen, couples break up.  

Besides that, my dating experience here in the USA has so far been disappointing to say the least.  I've been met with far more discrimination by my own ethnic background (I am Asian), along with everyone else.  Who knows, it could be just me, too.  

If people are happy, let them be.

I wish Vince Vaughn had stayed popular, his cynicism is just too perfect for the modern era.

"The obedient always think of themselves as virtuous rather than cowardly" - Robert A. Wilson | "If you don't have any enemies in life you have never stood up for anything" - Winston Churchill

This is why I like coming here when bored at work.

Posts like this reinforce my self belief I’m better than most of you and my life is much more rewarding and not pathetic.

Thanks OP. I needed a little lift today after having dinner with a successful guy last night had me feeling inadequate.

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I completely get it. Finding a woman in the United States that doesn't think she has a bigger dick than a man, doesn't have a lot of bodies, doesn't have kids, isn't completely useless outside the bedroom, doesn't lowkey hate men, doesn't think she's entitled to living a 1% lifestyle without being a 1% woman, doesn't have a list of unrealistic characteristics that a man has to have before he's worthy of her bare minimum, doesn't think marriage means she's a slave, won't divorce you on a whim, and isn't still sprung on her ex that dogged her out a few years ago, etc. is tough.

The juice just isn't worth the squeeze when you can go to another country, throw a quarter in any direction, and hit a woman that won't think you're a creep for saying hi. A lot of American women won't even let you hold a door open for them without getting offended. I mean, it's still possible to find a good woman in America, but it takes more effort. If that's what a man wants to do, then all the power to him. I don't really get all the hate and ridicule men are getting for this. Women have been doing it forever, and they even made a celebrated movie about it called "How Stella Got Her Groove Back" back in the 90s.

Women are making fun of men and shaming them, calling them pathetic and broke with such vitriol. But if they don't want these men, I don't understand why they're losing sleep. I also don't get why other men are clowning them, either. Who another man decides to fuck doesn't do anything for them. What these "losers" do isn't going to affect anyone else's life.

Women in other countries are raised to be feminine and to cater to their families. Women in America are raised to be independent while still expecting to be treated like traditional women. I mean, a lot of men in America are dating or married to a woman that hasn't made them a home cooked meal all year. I had a girl that would get upset at herself if she saw me wash a cup because they're raised to keep the home. As a man, I was raised to wash my own dishes, do laundry, cook a lot of my meals, etc. Women in a lot of other countries are raised to even care for their brothers. They take pride in that shit. Most American women are taught, "I'm not your mom." It's just different.

Most men aren't going overseas to take advantage of oppressed women. They just want love and appreciation. You just have to be careful because a lot of women from developing countries will game a simp to get out of their country, but women are women no matter where you go - so are men. However, for the most part, I understand passport bros. All the power to them. Everyone deserves to try to find happiness.

Fr get some south in your mouth man, just don't date liberals and you're fine. But hey, if you prefer foreign girls and can afford to make the trips more power to you I guess.

"The obedient always think of themselves as virtuous rather than cowardly" - Robert A. Wilson | "If you don't have any enemies in life you have never stood up for anything" - Winston Churchill

The term "passport bros" typically refers to individuals who pursue relationships or marriages with people from other countries primarily for the purpose of obtaining citizenship or other immigration benefits. It is important to approach such situations with caution and consider the ethical implications involved. While it's wonderful that you are dating someone from a different country and are happy in your relationship, it's crucial to prioritize genuine love and respect rather than using the relationship solely as a means to acquire citizenship or other advantages. Relationships should be built on trust, mutual understanding, and shared values. However, I got you OP. If you feel this is what you want, then just do it. I am happily married to an Italian girl who came to the US for me and she is stunning with good manners and without any "hate" for men and those feminist trends. I mean of course we put love in the first place, the second was the citizenship. We already have been through half of the process, already collected all the documents, and did several photos (by the way by ourselves using the https://photogov.com/ service to make it right). All we need now is to stay patient and wait)

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