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DeSantis was good, Tim Scott wasn't bad, Nikki Haley was incredibly annoying, Pence seems stuck in 1980 with his "America the best" rhetoric and out of touch with the real problems we have. I liked a lot of what Trump did as POTUS but there were also enough self-inflicted unnecessary slip ups and bad hires that I'd like to see new leadership, plus I just don't see Trump actually winning the general. Even if he did win, and that's saying something, I don't see anyone competent being part of his cabinet. I mean even if you lean right of center, would YOU sign up to be part of Trump's cabinet, knowing the kind of dumpster fire of organizational management he tends to run?

I am very curious how Kennedy is going to fare on the Dem side. I don't think he's going to beat Biden but I've been pleasantly surprised to see he's been getting some crowds.

 
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Vivek won because he got the most screen time and held his own. Becoming the chief target in a debate is a sign that you're winning. I even forgot DeSantis was ahead of him at one point.

DeSantis was underwhelming. He looked quite awkward and out of place throughout.

Pence was too wooden. Nikki Haley did okay but didn't stand out.

Chris Christie is not going to win the nomination but he accomplished his goal to bash Trump for the night. Held his own surprisingly well.

Everyone else was forgettable.

Trump is probably going to win the nomination. I don't think any of these guys could win against him in a debate. DeSantis has no charisma, and as sharp as Vivek is, Nikki managed to verbally overwhelmed him on the Ukraine issue, which I'm sure Trump can do more so.

 

So here's the thing. You might be right about Trump getting the nomination because he has more charisma than DeSantis. Is this really how we want to do things? We just want to be entertained now?

There's a big faction on the right that I think would be happy to just "own the libs" rather than actually fix anything. There's also a big faction on the right that I think is totally fine with losing, since they can then get book deals and podcast appearances on how it's not fair that they lost.

I don't think we've had a grown-up adult discussion on the state of our country since Bush vs. Gore. Jon Stewart and the Daily Show ruined an entire generation by them wanting this all to be entertainment WWE style. It's stupid when Jon Stewart does it from the left and it's really getting on my nerves now how the MAGA camp does it from the right.

 

Vivek actually grabbed my attention. As much as I hate these publicity stunts in politics, he put on a refreshing show. Would be huge if another businessman won the presidency.

 

Everyone, especially Pence, was incredibly robotic and scripted. How tf do you reconcile being in politics for as long as Vivek has been alive, yet you’re the one who is going to bring change. The problems we have are literally because of people like pence and Biden.

Desantis and TScott were also very scripted. Just regurgitating their memorized lines.

I thought Doug Bergum was the most reasonable and electable. Which is exactly why he won’t make it far.

The only one who tapped into Trump’s penchant for unscripted improv was Vivek. He came out aggressive and got a chunk of the country talking about him today. He has momentum. Would not be surprised if trump picks him as VP.

 

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