Relationship Q: What to do? :/
Greetings all.
No, this is no troll post. And I know, I'm a douche.
Here's the story.
I have been with the same girl since high school (7 years now). I love her, and we are moving in together next month.
During that time, I was semi-courting a girl at school. It started out as just messing around and hanging out, but I think I've developed serious feelings for this other girl. She is a lot like me, and she is never out of my mind. Sadly, I do not feel the same way about my girlfriend. This other girl is also interested in me, but does not know that I have been lying to her for 4 years about not having a girlfriend. She has had boyfriends during this time, but nothing serious. We haven't done anything yet, other than hanging out once in a while, and making out pretty seriously.
If I decide to make it official, I will have to admit I have been lying to her. The likely scenario is she never speaks to me again. So do I risk having no one for the girl I think I need to have?
What to do? Advice guys? Thanks!
If you really loved girl one, you wouldn't have fallen for girl two. Break it to new girl, if shit hits the fan, don't tell girl one and things are where they've always been.
What is with all this relationship stuff on WSO these days?
I don't know what it is with people spilling their guts on WSO to a bunch of strangers regarding some very personal life/relationship choices. Assuming they aren't all troll posts.
but seriously. what about a banking forum makes people want to talk about their relationship problems? "gee, these people know how to run dcf models. they'll definitely want to hear about my feelings."
Good God. This is simple. Minimize your losses.
You said you love this girl you've been with for 7 (!) years, yet this girl from school (that you've been messing around with for 4 (!) years) is never out of your mind. Sounds like you have stronger feelings for the girl from school, and you simply have a greater level of familiarity with the girl from home. Don't mistake being comfortable with someone to being attached to someone. Comfortability is a result of a great deal of shared time or experience with someone. Interest/attachment/connection comes as a result of some intangible bond or draw you have towards a person. Sexual attraction comes from how interested you are in fucking someone. Don't get the three confused. They can and often do overlap, but they are not the same thing.
In this situation, talk to the 'newer' girl and explain the situation to your advantage. Explain that you've had an on-again-off-again thing with someone from home who've you known for years but you don't really share a special connection with. Paint it like it's always been the easy option, you go home for break and holidays and she's there and since you knew each other in high school and went to prom and shared a lot of friendly moments together, it's been an extended but harmless fling.
You've known this newer girl for years as well now, and you've grown increasingly convinced of your feelings for her. You're struck by her charisma, energy, and the similarities you share (regale her with the nitty-gritty stuff she'll be shocked you remember, like the time you discovered you both love cream soda, or squeeze the toothpaste tube the same way, or have the same favorite movie, whatever seemingly trite, insignificant thing you can think of that she will assign way too much importance too and think "Oh my God, he pays such painstaking attention to me!"). Say that you've taken a great deal of time to consider whether your emotions for her are serious, and you think that they are, which is the only reason you would even mention it to her now and that you know and trust her well enough to take you seriously as you now mention them.
At this point she will either be wrapped entirely around your finger or so thoroughly disgusted with you for carrying two extended relationships (of sorts) on. If you present yourself as a real man (this will be the biggest part, because from your post I get the impression that you really may not be), she should be happy to lean in. The key will be to paint your old relationship as something less than a fully-fledged relationship. If she sees it that way, she'll be fine with it. You can completely cut off contact with your girlfriend of 7 (JESUS!) years and your new girl will never know the full extent of it. If she ever does meet the old girl (by some freak occurrence; take pains to never let this happen), it will be in the light of 'Oh, this is that girl from home he messed around with whenever he had the chance,' not 'FUCK, this is his 7-year girlfriend who he's never known anyone else because of.'
You then need to tell your old girlfriend that you cannot move in with her. You have reevaluated your life, determined that you are simply not prepared to take things to the next level with her, and owed it to her to immediately let her know so you can avoid doing her the disservice of deluding her into thinking you had something more meaningful than you actually do. She won't take that easily, obviously, but again, if you do it in a manly, earnest fashion, she will simply see it as a breakup rather than a betrayal (which, let's be serious, this plainly is).
Or, if you (likely) manage to fuck up the delivery when you sit down with the newer girl, your old girlfriend is none the wiser and you can carry on in the dearest manner with the girl you love so, so much. Long story short, be a man, be smart, be strong and appealing, and prepare for an entire thread filled with posts ridiculing and insulting you. Good luck, champ.
Wow. Thanks APAE, great advice. Tomorrow is going to be painful. I'll keep you guys posted!
Let me get this straight: you had one girlfriend throughout your entire college experience? Does that mean she was the only one you slept with during college? If so, what a waste. If not, she's not as serious as you're making her out to be.
Hmmm, I think the most appropriate model for this situation would be those that are in use by VC (I'm sure someone here can help you build one of these better than I can). Remember, you're dealing with some high risk acquisitions here, and that risk needs to be captured in the resulting model you build to solve your relationship problem. In particular, make sure your discount rate is appropriate for the two girls so that the resulting NPV calculations actually reflect the reality that you're dealing with. I would caution against throwing in your risk of failure (i.e. failure probability) directly into your discount rate. Doing so probably won't appropriately capture the risk since the probability of failure likely changes based on the scenario you're running. Lastly, consider how many scenarios that are appropriate to forecast the two relationships as the typical "base, bull, bear" construct may be inappropriate and you may require many more.
OP, just for future reference, make sure you have your model at least drafted up before posting a relationship question on WSO.
The exit opps from having one girlfriend throughout your entire college career are absolutely atrocious.
She said YES!!!!
:)
I can't help but feel part of this saga. Good work, champ. Now tie up the loose ends with the other girl.
Thank you for the advice and kind words APAE.
Who said yes? Your mother? I would hope she admits you are her child.
LOL
All these relationship posts make me realize I'm not as socially inept as I think I am.
Troll post was successful.
Not a troll post.
I talked to girl #2, told her that I had strong feelings for her, told her about girl #1. Told her that 1 never made me feel the way she did, and that I wanted something serious with her (2). She said she also had strong feelings for me, also wanted to do something about it, and she agreed to let the past be the past.
Yesterday, I told girl #1, that our relationship hasn't really been working. She fought me a little, but ultimately agreed. Sucked to have to tell her this, but we will remain friends. Hopefully.
:)
APAE's advice was priceless. Thank you APAE!
This dude has to be Asian.
Fail. Should've tried for a threesome before you laid it down.
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