Sidenote: Should there be a Geopolitics discussion forum? with all the taxes/crises/days of rage going in there?
So oil just sharply spiked and rebounded on the day off of this news and market tanked... anyone have predictions for ANARCHY tomorrow?
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I predict much anarchy.
^ yep, there will be blood
I could see things getting pretty crazy but I feel like this DOA has been planned for so long, the police-to-postester ratio will be too high for the protesters to gain much traction. I'm almost hoping things get out of hand so oil goes for a ride in some twisted sense.
Oh sheit, buy oil, quick!
Awesome.
Oil is going to all over the place
how the fuck is oil down?
Oil was down about 3 bucks before the news then it spiked back up nearly even
also, isn't tomorrow the "day of rage" in Saudi Arabia? The nationwide protests are supposed to be held tomorrow right? Should be an interesting day...
did u not read the title ;\ lol
nah group would suck but another forum for it would be good, i dont think it fits in monkey around
Geopolitrickery forum nameeeeeee
$ is up today
Start a group?
I hate groups, please don't do that. Rather than thousands of users reading the content, about 15 people see.
Agreed. Plus I always spend more time on the main forums. These types of threads get picked up in the active section every time anyway.
short your username is appropriate right now
yeah im retarded, I should have noticed that. Either way, no POMO tomorrow and riots across the ME. Should be fun.
so much muhammad jihad going on
Yah if you are on here enough the recent posts tab is your best friend. I never even go to the forums tab.
Same here.
Wish police would fire on the terrorist protestors we have in Wisconsin.
You decide.
Saudi will not fall.
Egypt has just changed hands to military leadership. Without outside help, Libya will hold on. Day of rage = day of shooting yourself in the foot.
Ant singlehandedly just turned this into a shitstorm...haha.
yes and no. I don't learn anything new when that happens though, just a bunch of partisans hurling shit back and forth......kind of a waste of my time really.
Wouldn't want to waste anyone precious time.
Someone tell me I'm wrong. The Egyptian military fired on people a couple days ago. They aren't giving up power. Libya is holding strong. So are the other states. People piss and moan, but I dont see any real, true democracy. All it is is one tribe trying to fuck another one over.
We have our own shit to worry about. The USA shouldn't waste one more life helping any other nation. Fuck them all.
Right, if we get involved, it becomes our fault. If we sit still, it is our fault that we aren't helping out those in need. Europe depends on Libya more than we do, let them deal with that mess. As for Saudi Arabia, I guess the welfare checks they all got weren't enough... What is the end game here, which is the last card to fall in the ME?
What do you guys think is the worst case scenario? For worldly interests and US interests?
^^I have to agree Ant. I don't see anything else happening besides one regime repalcing another.
Haha....I sort of wish that the police fired on the protesters in Wisconsin too ANT! If we had a new Ohio State it might lead to some real change in this country.
Whatever happens, I hope the West stays the fuck out of there and Libya too.
Ohio state? Think your missing something dude.
Fuck the protestors in Wisconsin. Thank god the bill will pass. Jesse Jackson is a piece of shit scum bag. Obama should shut his fucking mouth also. Cough up your birth certificate mother fucker. And I don't mean the Kenyan one.
Ohhhh ANT, you should have been in the thread about Obama and his BC yesterday...
I think you may open a shit storm with that comment.
^ ^ ^^ ^
hahahahaha.
double post
You see Michelle obama with her 1k purse? Socialism is great when you get to spend the money you stole from people.
Obamas birth certificate is with his long lost dad in Afghanistan. Dude named bin Ladin.
Ant, you are in an argumentative mood today aren't you? I like it! ha
I read about the fuck bag Jesse Jackson and felt like raging. I was lurking on the Obama birth certificate post lol.
This political shit is getting to me. Once walker signs that bill I will cheer up a lot.
Yea, I've tried to step back from politics as much as possible. Talking about it just makes everything seem more shitty and depressing.
Ya that's what happened to me yesterday when i watch about 1 minute of that shit bag reverend Wright's sermon on the other thread. That freaking enraged me!
Yeah, I am done with it personally. I'll let other conservatives on the site take up the torch. It's pissing in the wind and enrages me way too much.
Patrick, we need a politics forum. I am not that imaginative so the name could be left up to better people. We could even just call it the Drudge Report, since 99% of the stories on here are on there.
^ how about fans of that site go there and comment?
Many people on the street are Republican, I get it, hell I drank deep the cool aid by coming here, however, if I wanted GOP talking points, I'd put FOX news on. Personally, I'm apolitical and just want to LEARN SOMETHING. The partisan bickering is inevitable and sometimes brings up facts or concepts that I haven't seen before, but more often than not, people start repeating the same worn out crap [asking for the president's birth certificate, for example] and it becomes too tedious to bother going through a whole post.
Can we make it so that bananas / monkey shit get five times the weight on the political forum so that people think before they speak? I think I speak for a lot of people when I say that I simply do not have time to mine hundreds of comments for possibly one or two things I haven't heard before.
We don't need a politics forum. Certain power users have blogs for that sort of thing. We have the trading forum to discuss things like this vis-a-vis oil. Not to mention the "Monkeying Around" forum...
There are forums all over the internet that focus on politics - this one focuses on wall street and wall street careers. Let's not sully it with a dose of left-vs-right bullshit.
I support the creation of a forum.....and if they can 5x weight the banana / poo then even better
The Drudge Report is not a site that you can comment on. I would just like a repository of the topics we have. I post all the political topics on my blog, and hell, I've probably commented on 99% of them. I think it would be beneficial, but I'm not 100% sure, and if the consensus is not, then I don't really care strongly enough to fight for it.
Some wealthy/connected/etc Americans are being 'escorted out' (evacuated) right now by dudes from the State department and 'other dudes in dark suits'
This really isn't the place for a geopolitics forum folks...talk about how they relate to aspects of finance sure but do so in the forums that represent those aspects of the industry (traders forum etc.)
It took the USA 8 years to create its democracy. Why should we expect it to take any less time in Egypt?
8 years?
It's still a work in progress...
The picture the OP put up pretty much depicts his demeaning view on the Arab and Muslim world. Quite sad and ignorant really.
To your major disappointment, NOTHING happened in Jeddah, Riyadh,or Dammam today, thank god. It really is despicable how lots of people today have become really good at fear-mongering. I will say this as I always have: The Saudi people love the government. We dont want it to change. The only people that want it to change are the shia'a tiny minority (who want to elect secretly Iran-backed clerics and politicians, which is never acceptable) and a handful of wanna-be cool people that support "freedom" (the American type) and BS like that.They want it to be like Dubai/Abu Dhabi, which I find quite humorous (ask any of the Emiratis whether they like Dubai/Abu Dhabi now or in the old days...).
FYI, in the Ministry of Interior statement released late Wednesday, the government said security forces will detain ALL protestors, whether they are against or with the government. Protests disturb the peace, regardless of what kind of disturbance it is, which is against the law. The law is written to be held against everyone, to the letter, despite what you believe (even though the majority who hold this view have never been to Saudi Arabia)
The 3 people killed in Al-Qatif was because of the following (which the majority of global news outlets will leave out....because it just aint as exciting and defaming):
-The first two were shot at because they used weapons directly against riot officers and putting the officers' lives in immediate danger. The first one wielded a machete and the second one was aiming a rifle at riot police. The 3rd rioter was killed because he fired his .45 at a SANG truck 6 times. So much for "peaceful protestors". These scum are pretty good at crying crocodile tears infront of the global media. Behind the cameras they are beasts.
The streets of Jeddah were calm. Usual Friday traffic. There was no noticeable increase in police presence as some people say, although I am sure they were on stand-by as any developed security force would do in a situation like this.
So to all who were planning on saudi arabia to collapse today, 00100 . We came out alive as we always do.
"wanna-be cool people that support "freedom" (the American type) and BS like that."
^^ I love this that you posted...haha. Makes me wanna move where you live...
I say it like it is. I'd rather know who runs my country absolutely than have the power jockeyed by whoever controls the economy (please don't deny this..it's exactly how a C-student from Texas made it to Yale and the Oval Office) and the political scene. And heck, I've lived in the US much longer than I've lived in Saudi Arabia. It took me quite a while to realize that freedom wasn't as real as hype made it out to be. I'm treated like some hazardous chemical whenever Im at an airport...and that happens to all the Saudis I know, royalty or not. Our women are assaulted in elevators and the police don't do anything about it. Yet when a Saudi mistakenly rides a schoolbus, since he isnt aware of regulations in the US, they make a HUGE deal about it. All the saudis I know of don't see a week pass without the FBI knocking on their doors and checking into what they're doing. They do this to every single Saudi, not just the suspicious onces (from the American perspective).Foreign scholars aren't free to research what they like (check the Technology Alert List, so silly). Freedom. Riiight.
Where Im from, do whatever you like as long as the public isn't disturbed by it.
konig, that picture is from Team America. Take a chill pill. And yes, the odds were against there being serious turmoil in Saudi Arabia. Like Biggie said, it's hard to yell when the barrel is in your mouth.
^Add getting shit thrown at you for saying the truth to that laundry list of "freedoms"
Well I just got back from the gym and I saw two women, I assume they were Muslim, with the scarfs covering everything but their face. Sorry, not sure what they're called. I didn't see them getting harassed.
Seriously though, if someone even compares living in a country with the freedoms of the U.S. to one without like Saudi Arabia is insane. You may get bothered by the FBI, as you claim, but at least you won't get gunned down by your own government for speaking out. You keep your authoritative state, I'll keep my freedom.
I saw a Saudi woman harassed once. A guy bumped into her on accident and said sorry. Almost rape dude.
Hahahah.
In sure Saudi is great when youre a well off male in the right religious group. If your are not, well it basically sucks.
But what do you say of the countless women who are actually assaulted (and not as silly as you claim) and relatively ignored by police? I mean having their headscarfs pulled off, punched in the face, and kicked all over until she's unconscious-type of assault. That never happens to nonmuslims here.
@txjustin: The FBI wasn't the only thing bothering most Saudis. You couldn't get onboard an airplane like a normal person, you'd always be subjected to a "random" strip search. There are literally hundreds of cases where a Saudi studentswent home for the summer only to return in September and find out at the immigrations desk at the U.S. airport that their Visa had been cancelled, and never for a decent reason either (the most common answer? "There's no particular reason"..very nice). They all file their return documents 24 hours within arrival in Saudi Arabia, which I think is ample time (3-4 months) for the U.S. consulate to process. You shouldn't be so naive as to really believe in "Freedom", it doesn't exist.
It's Freedom for Americans, dude. Not freedom for any foreigner who wants to take advantage of our education system. Saudi kids have no particular right to be in the US; if we want to kick you out, we can kick you out. We don't need a reason.
And I have no problem with young Arab males being racially profiled. If it's good enough for Israeli security, it is definitely good enough for the TSA.
Well why should Americans expect exceptional treatment from us? Why isn't it tax-free income for us, not you (when you work here)! But we still treat you and any other foreigner as equals when you come here.
Yet if we randomly kicked an American out for no good reason, it will be all over CNN and FOX every night for the next 4 weeks. Americans (mostly drunkards) have killed Saudi citizens in the past, and what happens then? No, they aren't executed, but the US embassy flies them back home. NICE. So you get to boss everyone around and not be subjected to any rules? boy, your country's days sure are numbered
I have no problem with Al-Qaeda destroying every landmark in the U.S...that's how outrageous,childish,and silly your comment is. If you want the world's respect, give it respect!
Whoa dude. What kind of shit do you think is happening in the USA? Women are not being beat the fuck up and the cops are ignoring it. Assault is assault.
Dude, I live in Philly and see black women wearing burqua's all the time. None of them are being assaulted. Just because one woman was assaulted doesn't mean there are mobs of Americans attacking Muslim women.
You live in SA. The Middle East tends to be the epicenter for Anti American/Western terrorism. Yemen is home is a lot of Al Qaeda forces. Sorry if we pay closer attention to people in the Middle East.
Suppose a bunch of Aryan looking dudes started killing Saudi citizens. Suppose they blew some shit up. Do you think SA authorities would be focusing on blonde hair, blue eyed people? Sorry if you get checked a little more often than I am.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_Saudi_Arabia
Haha, Drexel FTW
Yeah, Drexel came in and pwned people. +1
We need to get Konig back on here to comment on this: so his prediction that this Shia mess wouldn't get far panned out 100% right. So why is the Sunni SA government sending troops into Bahrain? Spinning out of control on the Eastern border?
The Bahraini military can't control them, so they requested Saudi Arabia's help. If you thought Saudi Arabia just barged in there, then you must've been thinking of the U.S. ;)
The Eastern province has a very small shia population, approximately 200,000. Instead of explaining what would happen if they did riot, consider this: When a handful of dimwitted people stood outside masjid Al-Rajhi in Riyadh last friday after prayers to be the first to protest, police didnt do anything...the people smacked the living shit out of them :D
So if the Shia are looking to instigate a war, they will be up against almost 20,000,000 people, 75%(give or take) fit for war (between 17-33) ... the numbers are definitely not on their side. Additionally, Iran will never be directly involved (US Navy's 5th fleet is stationed in Bahrain).
They can arm the protestors, but we'll pick them out one by one.
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